No Public Option, No Reform, No Obama

[Lorax7844]

I want to like Obama, I want to think that he actually gives a shit. I want to think that I didn't waste hundreds of dollars of our money and hundreds of hours of my time just to get a law that requires me to buy bullshit insurance. I didn't work for that and I didn't vote for that. I still have hope that I haven't been dicked over, I still have hope that maybe the democratic party isn't completely bought out, but let me tell you lately, it is a only "sliver" of hope that is left. I didn't vote for capitulation, and I certainly didn't vote to make insurance companies richer.

No public option, no reform, no Obama, that is my line in the sand.

I'll be calling the White House tomorrow, I'll be calling my congress critters too, I hope you join me.

White House #
202 456 1111

Congressional Switchboard#
202 224 3121

[theoldman]

1. I think that Obama realizes that he will be a one term president

if he does not pass a responsible health care bill. Not everyone will be happy but a bill will be signed this year. I was happy when the Republicans passed their drug bill in 2005. It encouraged many doctors to sign a contract with HMO's. Remember that half a loaf is better than none.

[FreakinDJ]

4. I was thrilled about the part where it was illegal to negotiate

lower drug prices

The 2005 Drug Bill was a HUGE give away to Corp. Pharma

[WI_DEM]

10. Health care with a public option will pass, but even if it didn't I don't think Obama

would necessarily be a one-term president. Clinton didn't deliver on health care and was re-elected and re-elected for the reason most presidents are--the economy was better than when he came in. That will be the big factor going into 2012 for Obama's re-election too how the economy is doing and also who the GOP selects. If it's a nut case then he will win no matter what.

[CTLawGuy]

2. yeah because president Palin

will certainly pass real health reform :eyes:

[Lorax7844]

3. I'm being serious

I honestly want a good bill that helps people.

Puke on Palin, I'll never vote repug, however, I would actually like to feel that it's worth my time to continue to help democrats.

[cleveramerican]

5. your going to get hammered

no bad news can be mentioned.

this is the cheering section.

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[CakeGrrl]

22. ...and it's "DEMOCRATIC", not "DEMOCRAT"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8541972#8542008

:evilgrin:

[Cha]

23. Yeah, what are you?

the clever one?

[earth mom]

26. Which is why the rest of us need to hit GD-P hard with some truth. nt

[democrat_patriot]

8. Obama is actually putting forth the idea of reform.

He is going up against Big Pharma, Big Insurance, the AMA, every conservative talking head and the the entire Republican smear machine. Who else would have the guts to even try? McCain? Romney? Kerry? Hillary? (Think she'd try again?)

Did you actually think all he had to do was snap his fingers and make health care reform happen?

Instead of calling the White House, try calling Baucus. Call a Blue Dog.

When he actually has a bill that you disagree with in front of him - call.

[Cha]

24. Yeah, some people don't or

won't get that.

[salguine]

12. Are you one of those people who keeps repeating how no matter how bad

Obama fucks us over, it's okay because McCain or Palin would be worse? I'm trying to decide whether to put you on my ignore list. Help me out here.

[CTLawGuy]

21. I dont' think he has fucked us over at all

because I am a realist. He is not a king. Congress is the legislative body in this country, and Obama must work with them.

I haven't agreed with every decision he has made, but I believe he is doing his best and his heart in the right place.

If that makes me ignore worthy, fine. I don't need to deal with the "oh woe is us" never-happy-with-anything extreme left anyway.

[elocs]

6. I think if the economy has recovered well by 2012 I think Obama will be reelected,

but meaningful healthcare reform with a public option would certainly be a legacy for his presidency. I would hate to see his presidency be thought of as "what might have been".

[stray cat]

7. I have heard the republican plan ie McCain's - if the dems can't deliver the GOP can

you think things are bad - wait for the GOP to enact change you will believe in because it will bury you (at your expense)

[emulatorloo]

9. Yeah it sucks. Trust me, more Republicans is not the answer. That would suck like 2000-2008

I am pretty sure Obama "gets it".

You are right to call him, and your Sens and Reps. I am doing the same thing.

I am totally frustrated with

the Republicans -- deliberate lying
the Media -- naive transmission of the Republicans lies and the fact-adverse townhallers
The SENATE! -- what a bunch of tools. The House is making me proud, the Senate Ugh (The answer is more liberal dems in the Senate)
the Blue Dogs -- (however Blue Dogs are better than Republicans on many issues, and they do reflect the regions of the country they come from)

Obama is signally they are going to kick the Republicans in the ass and go it alone when September rolls around. I will be happier when they aggressively do that.

But again, Keep Calling. Me too.

[Orsino]

11. We have to be willing to press for reform that may not benefit us directly.

A bill that affordably insures significantly more families could be worth fighting for.

The President won't be writing the final bill, though. Give most of the blame to Congress for toothless reform efforts.

[ShortnFiery]

13. No, might as well kick back. Corporations RUN the United States of America.

We only vote to choose which flavor of "conservatives" that are honored to serve our corporate masters.

We're already there: Fascism. It's all a waltz to our so called "elected" representatives.

[Orsino]

15. I was planning on writing my Georgia senators this week; both are Republicans.

If you're out of gas right now, I would be happy to include Democrats Webb and Warner on my to-do list.

Letters from a constituent might have more influence, though.

[Raine1967]

25. I already wrote our dears, Saxby and Johnny -- I would

be more than happy to write a letter on others behalf as well. No problem.

[dionysus]

16. bully for you.

:rofl:

[Skidmore]

17. Oh please.

Have you drawn a line in the sand for every freaking Blue Dog who's pissing all over reform? Or are you just into scapegoating one person for the faults of many?

DEMS IN CONGRESS have capitulated. There is not law yet to sign off on.

Call you congress critters and then whine later.

[scheming daemons]

18. FAIL

[phleshdef]

19. If the economy is doing good and the wars are drawn down, Obama will be reelected, like it or not.

And theres not a damn thing you can do about it. You will have to get over it.

[quiller4]

20. Not my line in the sand. I'm much more concerned about

reform to ban recission and discrimination against those with pre-existing conditions. Today when Firedoglake asked me to sign their public option petition I unsubscribed to their mailing.

[pauldg0]

27. Look, you can't just start a single payer system right off the bat....

...In my opinion and maybe this is the way it is heading...You have to start with a Public Option that will phase into a single payer.

You ask...How do you do this? Well, it's like this...

. The Federal Government will designate existing surrogate Insurance companies to act as single payers.
. The reason...you have to have an established infrastructure....you just can't jump into a single payer immediately!! There is nothing yet in place.
. These surrogate's will be operated by employees of the Federal Government or the Federal employees will be watchdogs to see that all is in order and operating as a pay as you go plan.
. Then the surrogates will slowly relinquish their responsibilities to the Federal Government to operate over say six years.
. Other insurance companies who are dependant upon larger, richer clients can stand alone all they want.
. You could almost call them Rogue or Maverick companies that could eventually fail or join the ranks.
. The point is, let them stand alone but you can still call the new reform a single payer phase-in.

Anyway I was just brainstorming. Maybe others can develop my thoughts.