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ksoze (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:42 PM Original message |
Should a state which allows one to carry AR-15's openly get your tourist dollars? |
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billh58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. K&R |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
71. agreed. I totally agree. |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
2. They would rather lose tourist $$$ than NRA contributions to their campaign chests. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Bingo! eom |
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ksoze (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Arizona had 35.2 million Visitors in 2007; Visitor spending topped $19.3 billion |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
94. If there is a 10% dropoff in visitors, protesting against openly carrying firearms, that's a |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
5. AZ allows guns in restaurants now. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. If I went into a restaurant and saw an armed guy at the table next to me |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Exactly - you don't know |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I'd leave too. |
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ssolid71 (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
77. No the law does not say you can't drink and carry. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Many years ago, in Boston, I was waiting tables... |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 09:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
33. I'd back out toward the door slooooowly. n/t |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 01:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
48. The same could be said about the person next to you |
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ssolid71 (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 08:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
76. You're around consealed guns all the time....you don't even know. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #76 |
84. "consealed" |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #76 |
95. Yep, um problee arown consealed gunz a lott and dont no it. |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #6 |
80. How about if it was a police officer? |
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Retrograde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 01:09 AM Response to Reply #5 |
24. I've been to many nice restaurants in AZ without being aware of this |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 12:56 AM Response to Reply #5 |
47. Oh, I know that is going to go well. nt |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
68. I wouldn't go to Arizona without |
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ssolid71 (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
75. The only state that has laws against carrying in bars is virginia. |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #5 |
83. Nice way to cloud the issue |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
9. My letter to the Arizona Chamber of Commerce . . . |
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chicago legal pro (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 11:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Obama disagrees with you |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 01:07 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. He has all those Secret Service guys to protect him . . . |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
42. Don't ever go to Vermont, Minnesota, New Hampshire, or Maine then. (n/t) |
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ssolid71 (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 08:58 AM Response to Reply #9 |
78. I have a list of other states chambers of commerce you should mail. |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
10. After having lived there for 5 years, I have no intention of going back. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #10 |
18. You lived around Phoenix. |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
12. Arizona makes Utah look sane. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 12:24 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Utah has mandatory carry towns. |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 12:33 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Not at that level. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Ah, well, that's SLC. Modest and all. |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 01:17 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Manditory Carry? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 12:46 AM Response to Reply #19 |
45. How the hell is THAT Constitutional? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 01:57 AM Response to Reply #19 |
49. Mandatory? I think not. Which towns are those? |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. Google 'mandatory firearm possession'. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Thats not mandatory carry, and there is no legal requirement |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Point taken, that's not mandatory carry, merely mandatory possession by heads of household. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Im not getting riled up at all. Your example just goes to show |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. An interesting point... actually. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. I guess its semantics |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #19 |
81. Mandatory Carry? |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #81 |
89. I've heard of a few other places like that for that reason |
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gordianot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
13. There just seems to be something wrong about anyone who brings a gun to a political event.. |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Bringing a firearm to a political event is just stupid |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
43. I think it was a calculated move to (predictably) stir up the media and generate publicity. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
16. PLEASE contact the Arizona Tourist Bureau! |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
17. Are you suggesting they should secretly get my tourist dollars? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #17 |
56. I missed that, good catch and pretty funny. nt |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
22. In practical terms, "Boycott Arizona" isn't going to work |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #22 |
82. Boycott Arizona has ALREADY worked in the past, or don't you remember Gov. Mecham ?????? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
25. Yes. |
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ksoze (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 07:10 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Guns may not scare you, but the shooters should |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 08:43 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Nobody can walk the street with an assault rifle in AZ. |
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ksoze (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 08:59 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. You better tell that guy with the AR-15 assault rifle in Phoenix |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 09:15 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. It is by definition not an assault rifle |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Whoa. You do not know your weapons. |
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ksoze (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. +1 |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #34 |
66. Assault rifles? |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
86. You are wrong. The AR-15 is only available in 5.56 mm. |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
28. Yes. |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 09:18 AM Original message |
Since only about 6 states have laws against it |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
36. Vermont has the least restrictive gun laws in the country. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
37. I can't bash the entire state, since it's my "second home state" and all. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Is it the Sun Devils? |
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libodem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
38. I wonder how far one would get |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #38 |
58. * is in Texas, which doesn't have open carry, so not far.. |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
40. Sure and if I have money to travel, they would. |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
41. I've lived in AZ since 1994 and have never seen anyone with a gun. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 12:40 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Uh, flagstaff, maybe? |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #44 |
55. I've lived in Tucson from 1994-2000 |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Interesting. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 12:46 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Seriously? I see them all the time. |
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ClayZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 03:07 AM Response to Original message |
50. K and R |
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BrightKnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 03:16 AM Response to Original message |
51. If I had taken a loaded gun to one of Chimpy's events |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 06:50 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Why? |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 06:23 AM Response to Original message |
52. I once carried an unloaded 742 Remington semi-automatic rifle |
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BrightKnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. I have carried Remington 1100 and 870 shotguns |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 06:31 AM Response to Original message |
53. I'd be happy to see fewer tourists here in California |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. but the thing is... |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
91. Living in a resort town in CA, I'd have to agree... BUT |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-19-09 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
61. I don't even like being around cops with their loaded guns. I sure |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
70. Nope. |
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hannah (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
72. guns |
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ssolid71 (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 08:46 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Do it. They won't care. |
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ssolid71 (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
73. If I can bring an AR-15, I will. Because Pinch Sulzberger says that's the right thing to do. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
79. Meanwhile, 2000-2008, Democrats couldn't exercise the 1st A. with signs, t-shirts, etc., at Bush |
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Splinter Cell (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
85. The problem is.... |
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ellie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
87. No, they won't be getting my |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
88. As long as the Cubs have spring training there, I'll go |
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deep1 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
90. Great post........... |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
92. They don't have to worry about my tourist dollars. I'm not |
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HopeOverFear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
93. Hell to the naw (c) Whitney Houston |
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ksoze (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
96. Looks like one major travel writer has urged a tourist ban.. |
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