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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 01:24 PM
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A Visit to the East Wing
Edited on Sun Jun-28-09 01:38 PM by babylonsister
http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/abraham_verghese/2009/06/obama_and_gov_sanford_being_and_nothingness.php

Abraham Verghese

Jun 26 2009, 2:32PM

Obama and Gov. Sanford: Being and Nothingness


I had the pleasure of being in the East Wing of the White House on Wednesday, one of about 160 people in the audience as President Obama appeared on national television, fielding questions about health care.

It was my first look at the President at close quarters. I came away with the impression that the President was possibly the most knowledgeable person in the room when it came to the current health care crisis. That's no small thing given the people who were there. We have had Presidents whose understanding of issues seemed confined to the precise talking points prepared by aides in briefings. This President knew his material well and was improvising as smartly as a jazz pianist, in response to questions.

The other thing I sensed was the President's tremendous passion for this cause. If there is something more important on his agenda, I don't know what it is. What also came across is that compared to everyone else who was there (physicians like me, the CEO of Aetna, the head of the AMA), the President was probably the only one whose interests in the health care debate were not self serving. His sole motivation seems to be to head off disaster, which seems inevitable if reform does not take place.


An important moment for me personally came when a young woman asked the President the very question that I had been prepared to ask. She wanted to know why we could not emulate the example of other advanced democracies that manage to cover all their citizens for about half what it seems to cost us. The President's answer was revealing; he pointed out that most of those countries had a one-payer system whereas we in America, "...have an employer based system that has grown up over decades. For us to completely change our system, root and branch, would be hugely disruptive and I think would end up resulting in people having to completely change their doctors, their health care providers in a way that I'm not prepared to go. This is one-sixth of our economy. I think that we can build on what works, fix what's broken, and still have some substantial money."

The obstacles in the President's way are considerable: 1) people and businesses who are profiting hugely from the status quo; 2) a general fear of government interference; 3) fear in Congress about the amount of money to be spent on health care reform and finally, 4) the fact that legislators who have to make change happen often serve the interests of the people who gave them the most campaign money--pharma, insurers, organized medicine. These contributions are what taint our political process--call it first world corruption.

I got back to my hotel room at 10pm, just as the session (which had been recorded "live to tape") was finally being aired. I was surprised to see that one commercial shown during the health care debate was on behalf of "Patients United Now"--a group I know little about. The ad was sowing seeds of fear by having a Canadian patient talk about the difficulties of that system. They couldn't wait to hear what the President had to say it seems.

Oh yes, and the other thing on television competing on the other channels was the news of Governor Sanford's whereabouts. As to that . . . less is more.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 01:26 PM
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1. There's a ginormous difference between rebuilding a ship in drydock...
versus rebuilding a ship *while you're actually sailing on it*.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 01:40 PM
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2. Agreed, and nice analogy. This is a solid explanation
imo why single payer wouldn't work. Look at all the push back over a public plan.

Another huge mountain to climb as it is.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 01:43 PM
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3. Heh - I wish I could take credit for the analogy....
http://www.blackwellreference.com/public/tocnode?id=g9781405106795_chunk_g978140510679515_ss1-71

"Epistemology, philosophy of science A metaphor invented by the Austrian sociologist and philosopher Otto Neurath. Neurath was a leading member of the Vienna Circle, but disagreed with the epistemological foundationalism of another important member, Rudolf Carnap. Carnap believed that there is a set of incorrigible protocol statements that directly report sense-experience. All other valid complex statements are constructed out of these protocol statements. In criticizing this picture, Neurath compared our body of knowledge to a ship, and said: “We are like sailors who have to rebuild their ship on the open sea, without ever being able to dismount it in dry-dock and reconstruct it from the best components.” Accordingly, knowledge is historically conditioned and is maintained if a sufficient range of its claims is acceptable at any given time. Nevertheless, any piece of knowledge can be replaced to keep the whole project of knowledge going. Nothing can claim to be the foundation of knowledge. This metaphor was adopted by Quine and is widely cited as a powerful image of anti-foundationalism. “The philosopher's task was well-compared by Neurath to that of a mariner who must rebuild his ship on the open sea.” Quine, From a Logical Point of View"
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 01:51 PM
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7. Well, thanks for passing
it on.:)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 01:56 PM
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8. Jeeze! Well then, thank you, Otto! nt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 01:48 PM
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4. It's worth noting the contrast with Taiwan's system, as posted a bit ago....
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 01:50 PM
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6. That is a great analogy on
all these uncharted waters!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 01:49 PM
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5. I don't know how Pres Obama has the time
to dunk Senior Advisors with all the studying he has to do!

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