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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:52 PM
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Freeper Reaction to Tiller's Death
Not posting individual quotes just links so people if they choose can see how dangerous our enemy is.

On President Obama's repsonse
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2261820/posts

On NARAL's response
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2261809/posts

On NOW's response
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2261785/posts
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:03 PM
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1. I noticed that some are thinking along the lines that POTUS came out
very very early on this event, therefore he knew all about the murder and who did it long before we did. Having said that, this could possibly have been a setup by the Dems to take the focus off Sotomayor. I kid you not folks, even I'm not that imaginative. The fact that President Obama came out and called this a heinous crime, well, they just don't get that since abortions are heinous crimes.

He possibly set this up...LOL.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:04 PM
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3. They are sick fucks
and no better than the Islamic extremist.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:03 PM
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2. Sick fucks. It's from their type of people that these shooters come from.
Edited on Sun May-31-09 08:04 PM by MrModerate
No question, they're dangerous, but at the same time, I refuse to live my life in fear of their deranged followers.

Easy for me to say -- I don't have the profile that Tiller had, and I've tried to stay out of the States as much as possible precisely because such nuts are everywhere and they all have guns.

However, let's not forget -- FReeperland is a fever swamp where the sickest psychos accumulate. The vast majority of people (even far-right wingers) reject the vicious bile that bubbles up there.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:05 PM
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4. I fully believe we will have another McVeigh
and it will come from this crowd.

We have our own fundamentalist problem in America.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:11 PM
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5. You're right three times over. Hope "Homeland Security" . . .
has the brains to realize this.

Seems unlikely though. They think all terrorists wear jellabas.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:13 PM
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7. Actually Homeland Security issued a memo on RW extremist in America
It caused a significant backlash on Fox News for a week.

they were right.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:37 PM
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11. Nice to live in a secular society, where these nutters have remained relagated to the fringe
Biggest mistake Americans made in the 20th Century was to enable and legitimize these folks throughout the 80's- taking them seriosly rather than farcically and trying to "engage in dialogue," rather than ridiculing them.

Once the fundamentalist genie was out of the bottle and had a seat at the policy table, it was all down hill from there.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:49 PM
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13. There was never any chance of "supressing" fundamentalism in America . . .
Nor should anyone have tried. The side effects would have been much worse than the disease.

However, rendering fundamentalism impotent and pointless (a la European Christian religions) is within our grasp. As is the eventual demise of Islam and other faiths. Despite periodic blips up or down, I think religion is eventually doomed.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 09:02 PM
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14. I dodn't mean to suggest suprression- just ignoring them and dismissing the looney talk
Edited on Sun May-31-09 09:04 PM by depakid
for what it was- and is.

Had that happened, they' have remained on the fringe where they belong, rather than been taken seriously on Nightline and the Sunday shows, etc.

I mean, how would Kerry O'Brien or Tony Jones deal with the matter?

Was Pauline Hansen ever legitimized? Or was she scorned?. Would "Family First" have a seat in the Senate had Labor not played games with The Greens over preferences?

That's the trouble with extremists- if you give them an inch, they'll take a yard- give a yard, they'll bellow endlessly for a mile.





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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 11:48 PM
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20. I'm a newbie to Australia, so I can't answer your questions about . . .
The personalities above with a lot of confidence (although I've heard of them). My understanding of Hansen is that -- at least when she first gained prominence -- there were a lot of Australians who adhered to her view (which my limited knowledge wants to categorize as "racist/antiAsian").

The Family Firsters must have some sort of actual constituency (like Dobson's Focus on the Family in the US). And as to how parliamentary nose-counting games give rise to strange-bedfellow situations of supassing preposterousness . . . you know better than I.

Similarly odious are the various Islamists who make the papers periodically, angrily insisting that their rights as Australian citizens mean they are entitled to reject everything that's tolerant, egalitarian, and nonsectarian about Australian culture. And I guess they *are* entitled -- but that doesn't make their point of view any less noxious.

That having been said, though, Australia is less likely to provide a home for religious extremists of all stripes than the US because, on average, Australians appear significantly less godsmacked (not a typo) than Yanks. In the US, for example, a politician has to either be or profess to be religious (in practice, Christian or Jewish) or they will never be elected.

But in "free" societies (in which category I include both the US and Australia, as well as most Western European countries, and others around the world too numerous to mention) *all* points of view with sufficiently serious/committed adherents are going to get some sort of hearing in the popular media, regardless of their inherent looniness. It's a price we pay.

Doesn't mean you can't disparage them in public -- society still has the right reject ideologies it finds ridiculous or objectionable, if only through scorn. My relatively short residence in Australia suggest to me that most Aussies (and particularly young ones) have increasingly little affection for religious fundies.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:11 PM
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6. Their numbers are dwindling on that site also. I'll bet it took six weeks
Edited on Sun May-31-09 08:12 PM by monmouth
for that fundraiser to reach the goal,(at least it seemed like it) we did ours in about three days. Just goes to show....
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:16 PM
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8. it's hard to believe that piece of shit site gets any donations
it hasn't evolved since it started
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:37 PM
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10. Evolve? They dont know that word. n/t
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:31 PM
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9. These are the sons of a bitches that are responsible for the last
8 years of the Bush crime family and the fascist theocratic lies we've had to live with.
:dem:
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:38 PM
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12. Interesting to see
that the PUMA Lite Group set up to undermine NOW (The New Agenda) has absolutely nothing to say on this issue.

http://thenewagenda.net/blog

Why no - it is not an important issue at all.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 09:37 PM
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15. I said to my father several weeks ago that these rightwingers will start killing people.
This will not be the last, I fear.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:15 PM
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18. I agree. They have just started.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 09:41 PM
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16. Lots of lesbian hatred on the NOW thread.
"clam bumpers" "rug munchers"
:banghead: :banghead: :grr:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:05 PM
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17. That's simple hatred of women, that language
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:44 PM
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19. It's a hatred of women in general, but lesbians specifically.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 01:11 AM
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21. And they have the Right if Your White Rev Amy Siksind to Preach the Alternative.
It is a real shame to see how much she has fallen simply because the President happens to be a black man and not Hillary. I have real worries about where this will end.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 01:21 AM
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22. lawlz oh good lordy:
" Emanuel hired this hit man to distract from Obama’s total economic and foreign policy failures. Didn’t North Korea just set off a nuke?!!!"
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