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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 01:28 PM
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Does Fox news even bother to research or do they pull crap out of their ass and report it as fact?
I'm trying to figure out why Fox is reporting that the Souter Nomination needs one Judicary committee member from the 'opposing' party to support him/her in order to move the nomination out of committee and into a floor vote.

Last time I checked - Samual Alito moved to a floor vote without a single democrat in the judiciary committee voting for him

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Alito#Nomination_to_U.S._Supreme_Court_and_confirmation_hearings

Alito's confirmation hearing was held from January 9 to January 13, 2006. On January 24, his nomination was voted out of the Senate Judiciary Committee on a 10-8 party line vote. Democratic Senators characterized Alito as a hard right conservative in the mold of a Clarence Thomas or Robert Bork. Alito professed reluctance to commit to any type of ideology, stating he would act as an impartial referee. On the abortion issue, he stated that he would look at that with an open mind but would not state how he would rule on Roe v. Wade if that issue were to come up before the court. Some pro-life activists, however, claim Alito's confirmation as a victory for their cause.


SO someone please tell me why Fox News is reporting this? Was there some change in the Judiciary nomination process since Alito that would basically fuck things up for whichever party was in charge?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/01/specters-defection-help-republicans-block-souters-potential-replacement/

At first glance, with Democrats a hair away from a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, one would expect President Obama to have no trouble hand-picking a replacement for retiring Supreme Court Justice David Souter.

But in an ironic twist, Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter's switch to the Democratic Party this week could give Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee the upper hand in rejecting a nominee they find unacceptable.

That's because the Judiciary Committee, where Specter was the ranking minority member, requires the consent of at least one Republican to end debate and move a nominee to the full Senate for a vote.

"I think, in narrow terms, it could present a procedural problem at the committee level, unless the Democrats are going to change the rules of the committee midstream," William Jacobson, a professor of law at Cornell University, told FOXNews.com.


Mind you, perhaps since Alito's nomination someone made changes and I'm out of date on it; however, it's odd that only Faux News seems to be reporting this and nobody else.

Can someone tell me if I'm going crazy or Faux News is just full of crap?

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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 01:29 PM
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1. "Research" and "facts" are for fancypants booklerned librul elites.
Fox goes by "Truthiness."
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 01:30 PM
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2. Three guesses-first two don't count.
The only thing they know how to do is pull crap out of their ass. They wouldn't know a fact if it came up and bit them.
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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 01:32 PM
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3. they make it up, like most Conservative disinformation sources. It's called the Big Lie principle &
it works with the ignorant. "Conservative" just another way to spell "IGNORANT" - "and damn proud of it!"


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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 01:32 PM
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4. I heard this yesterday on another news program
I don't watch Fox so I didn't hear it from them. I can't remember which program I heard it.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 01:34 PM
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6. But that's how Faux News works their magic - they start the trend
and then the competition has to catch up with Faux News and they start reporting it.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:29 PM
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18. I guess so
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KathieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 01:32 PM
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5. The answer to your question is...the latter.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 01:36 PM
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7. So there is no new or hidden rule that allows a 'filibuster' within the committee?
just checking
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 01:40 PM
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8. From David Shuster...
http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/

snip//

This isn’t the first time Shuster has stepped up in this regard. Not long after he left Fox News (that’s right, he used to work there, so he knows of what he speaks), Shuster disclosed what it was like to try to practice journalism in a shop that had no respect for it:

…there wasn’t a tradition or track record of honoring journalistic integrity. I found some reporters at Fox would cut corners or steal information from other sources or in some cases, just make things up. Management would either look the other way or just wouldn’t care to take a closer look.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 01:43 PM
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9. Fox fact checks everything rigorously with
Edited on Mon May-04-09 01:45 PM by SpiralHawk
The Republicon Homelander anti-American ass-pull and diaper-sex society, so they can serve up Americans the Skankiest & Crappiest News

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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 01:50 PM
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10. The latter..
Out of their butts. :crazy:
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:00 PM
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11. Its true. Check the Judiciary Committee Rules. It requires one Republican to stop
debate in the committee. One doesn't have to vote for the nominee. They just have to give the ok for a Committee vote.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:13 PM
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15. So in other words, the SPINLESS QUIZZLING DEMS did NOTHING to PROTECT OUR CONSTITUTION!!!!
funny how it always comes down to the same feeble EXCUSES...
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:20 PM
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17. Actually "NO" according to this poster
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Traveling_Home Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:03 PM
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12. It's true according to Committee rules nt
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:07 PM
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13. I think the key is whether there should be a vote on the nomination.
The vote that requires 10 votes with one of them from the minority is to end debate and get on with the vote.


The Chairman shall entertain a non-debatable motion to bring a matter before the Committee to a vote. If there is objection to bring the matter to a vote without further debate, a roll call vote of the Committee shall be taken, and debate shall be terminated if the motion to bring the matter to a vote without further debate passes with ten votes in the affirmative, one of which must be cast by the minority.


If there is not an objection to the motion than the vote is taken on the nomination itself.

If there is an objection by a member then a roll call vote is taken to determine whether debate continues.

If the debate vote fails then debate continues.

If the debate vote succeeds then the vote is taken on the nomination. Which does not require a minority member to vote yea.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:19 PM
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16. So Fox is full of shit, if I'm correct. There isn't anything to keep the nominee from a floor vote
outside of a bunch of Dems crossing party line and voting "NO"
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 03:20 PM
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20. That's right. I wonder how many Repugs want to stop the vote from taking place everytime?
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:11 PM
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14. It's too dangerous for them to do research.
The findings of the research might someday be made public, contradicting whatever they said to the public at the time.
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HillWilliam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:43 PM
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19. Murdoch made his fortune selling two-headed, cow-mutilating, alien-baby
stories and weekly Elvis sightings. When he bought Faux News he pulled that same cadre of creative writers over with him.

Anyone should be shocked that Faux News is anything but, well, faux? Just because the pictures move now doesn't mean there's any more truth in 'em.
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