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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:48 PM
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Her rival now her boss, Clinton settles into new role
WASHINGTON, May 2 Hillary Rodham Clinton insists her transition from presidential contender to secretary of state has been seamless, and in one respect, it is hard to argue with her: she still hustles like a candidate down a few points in the polls the week before Super Tuesday.

But in many other ways, Clinton has shed her candidates skin. Her campaign staff is largely gone, replaced by a broader circle of advisers. Her husband, who stood behind her at countless campaign stops this time last year, has resumed his globe-trotting life, seeing her on rare weekends at their home in Chappaqua, New York.

In this, the latest mutation in a career of many changes, Clintons days have become a whirl of diplomatic talks, White House meetings, and foreign travel: 74,000 miles and 22 countries as of last Sunday, when she returned from Iraq and Lebanon.

By all accounts, Clinton has worked hard to be a good soldier in an administration run by the man she spent much of last year trying to defeat. She and President Obama have developed a respectful rapport, several officials said, and she has emerged as an influential voice in the great policy debates of the day, notably Afghanistan and Pakistan.

But State Department officials, and others in the administration, say less-than-generous things about Obamas national security adviser, Gen James L. Jones, suggesting there is some jockeying among the top officials around the president. Jones, these people say, has struggled with his transition from Marine commander to senior staff person, speaking up less in debates than Clinton and not pushing as hard for decisions.

Friends acknowledge that Clinton herself was initially swamped by the challenge of taking over the sprawling State Department bureaucracy management being one deficit in her career. She likens it to being mayor of a good-sized small city.

But Clinton has turned a corner in recent weeks, these people say, both as a manager and as a diplomat. Her stern public warnings about the recent Taliban offensive in Pakistan put her on centre stage as the messenger of American unease.

I love the job; I mean, its really hard, Clinton said in a recent interview. Weve inherited so many problems.

As a former first lady, senator, and presidential candidate, Clinton enjoys rarefied status, even for a secretary of state. She has not hesitated to put this to use, whether in rock-star-like appearances in South Korea and Turkey, or in positioning herself at home.

Even before she was confirmed, Clinton summoned Richard C. Holbrooke, now the special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, for a fireside chat at her Washington home with Gen. David H. Petraeus, the commander who oversees the region.

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On a recent afternoon, at Clintons suggestion, the two moved their meeting outside to a picnic table on the South Lawn, next to a new swing set installed for Obamas daughters. We just had the best time, she said.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/world/2523...

I love the pic of Hillary and Obama at the picnic table. I'm glad that she suggested they meet there.

:D
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:51 PM
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1. I doubt whether Obama is any more Clinton's boss than Bush was Powell's boss. IMO a president is
more like the barely senior partner in a joint working relationship between President and Secretary of State.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:57 PM
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3. I agree.
Several people here who never liked Hillary are always rubbing it in how he's her boss. I don't see it that way. Obviously Obama as president has the final say on policy, but the relationship is one of cooperation. Two very bright people who respect each other and are slowly becoming friends, working hard for the betterment of the nation. We are lucky indeed.

:-)
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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:58 PM
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4. The president is always the boss
I'm not sure where you're getting your theory from. To say that Hillary is Obama's equal in the administration is laughable at best. Obama runs the show, and don't you forget it.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:37 PM
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25. Correct. And if they didn't agree on most issues, she wouldn't be there. It's his call. nt
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:59 PM
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5. A co-presidency perhaps?
:eyes:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:04 PM
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7. Of course not, the president always has the final say.
But, jut like any good manager, he sets the course and allows others to spread their wings and do their thing. But he's not her boss in the way that some people mean here. He's not holding her down with his foot on her neck telling her to do as he wishes or else. It's a cooperative relationship, they both respect each other.

;)
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:09 PM
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8. Wrong. Obama set the policy, chose the envoys, and Clinton executes his policy.
Re: envoys and proof Obama is in charge: Clinton promised Gen. Zinni the job as ambassador to Iraq, Obama overruled her and appointed Christopher Hill.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D05E7DE...
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:12 PM
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10. Obama chose the envoys at Hillary's suggestion.
Holbrooke and Mitchell were her choices. I don't want to argue with you. This is a positive thread and I know well enough your feelings on Hillary.

Peace and have a good day.

:-)
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:15 PM
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11. Your nonstop elevation of Clinton at the expense (and disrespect) of Pres Obama is duly noted. n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:20 PM
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14. It's triply noted.
:hi:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:57 AM
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65. word
:hi:
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:27 PM
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39. How are positive words on Clinton disrespectful to Obama?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:53 PM
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50. Positive words aren't, words that suggest that Hillary and he have
something close to a co-Presidency are. That diminishes President Obama. The reality is that Obama is President and he is increasing being seen as a strong President. Clinton is Secretary of State. How much her opinions will influence President Obama will depend on how he views their quality. There are many people, inside the administaration and out, who provide their advice to Obama. He is the one who weighs all of them and makes the decisions. In reality, it is quite likely we may never know how much influence anyone has on his decisions - and once made they are HIS decisions.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:14 PM
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62. Yeah, but the only one who said copresidency is the one who's concerned about disrespecting Obama.
Take it up with her.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:21 PM
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63. Look this is all silly. The point is, even if a good manager
gets the cooperation of his subordinates, it doesn't mean he's not the boss. The idea is ridiculous. It's like penalizing a boss for being a good boss.

Even if your subordinate happily goes about the job, and "cooperates", you're still the boss.

The co-presidency thing is absurd. It can never be two. If it's going to be more than one that runs the show, then the minimum is always three.

The President is the boss.

Hillary is showing that she is a professional and an honorable person. She's doing a good job because she cares about her character. That earns her respect. But to venture off into this co-presidency thing...
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:54 AM
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64. Well said - and what I had been trying, less successfully to say. (nt)
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quickesst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:50 PM
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48. Ha ha ha...
"Your nonstop elevation of Clinton at the expense (and disrespect) of Pres Obama is duly noted."

Disrespect? Sounds more like a lingering bitterness on your part concerning Clinton. More likely though, Clinton Fever. Still no cure. Sad. Thanks.
quickesst
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 05:43 PM
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55. You're right, we are bitter.
We're bitter because Clinton had the audacity to lose to Obama.

We're bitter because now he has to be the lowly President while she's in charge of the country as Secretary of State.

And most of all, we're bitter over her getting all the attention in the media while he has to sit in the corner and eat wet cigarette butts.

It's all quite scientific, really:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:26 PM
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16. Just curious... do you have any proof for this assertion? I couldn't find any.



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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:29 PM
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24. You are implying that we all have your defintion of boss
This " He's not holding her down with his foot on her neck telling her to do as he wishes or else." would be my definition of a boss from hell - and a very poor boss who will get very little out of even good subordinates. If that is what you think a boss is, I wonder what kinds of jobs you have had. All I know is that in over 2 and a half decades working, I was fortunate never to have a boss like that.

What you describe - as if unique to Obama or possibly even just unique to Obama and Clinton is how every boss I ever had acted.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 05:08 PM
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52. No, I'm implying that some people here act as if he was treating her in such a manner.
Edited on Sat May-02-09 05:10 PM by Beacool
Of course he's the person in charge and has the final say on policy, just like any other president who preceded him. But the meme here expressed by some that somehow she's just his underling and has not much say on how she handles her job is pure B.S. She and Obama are in sync, if they were not she wouldn't have accepted the job in the first place. Hillary has always been a team player, but she's no one's fool and she definitely doesn't need the money. So, if she didn't agree with his views on foreign policy, she would have stayed in the senate. The efforts of some here to diminish her role are insulting not only to her, but also to Obama. That was my point.

:shrug:

BTW, having been a manager for some years in a Fortune 100, I know a little of what it takes to handle people.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 05:41 PM
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54. I have not seen a single post that suggests that
Edited on Sat May-02-09 05:43 PM by karynnj
This also had nothing to do with money - she has the same pay as when she was a Senator - and money was not the motivation for either.

The fact is that Secretary of State gives her a high profile job in the administration rather than returning as a Senator too junior to head a committee - a fact that was likely to be true for years. Not only that, the fact is that there was no issue you can point to where she was leading the way in the Senate. A major problem was that Hillary Clinton's public status as a Democratic superstar was out of sync with her lack of real power in the Senate. From 2000 - 2008, it wasn't a problem as the intention was becoming President. Taking the SoS job allowed her to save face.

The fact is that you are exaggerating her role more than others are minimizing it. She has a very important job and she is by al accounts working very hard at it. It is quite possible that she may take some steps or do things that are major accomplishments which lead to breakthroughs. That hasn't happened yet. (partially because these things don't happen often and she has just started) When that happens (if it does), then I will agree with you that she is a fantastic SoS. So, far I would say she is competent, hard working and has coordinated well with the rest of the team. The extreme praise is premature.

PS you are not the only one who has ever been a manager at a Fortune 100 company. Believe it or not, I was for years and I see no similarity between lower management (or even middle or upper management positions) and two of the highest positions in the world.)
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:16 PM
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12. There's no doubt the SoS is following the foreign policy vision laid out by Pres. Obama last year.
Edited on Sat May-02-09 02:54 PM by ClarkUSA
"Clinton has tended to leave the heavy lifting in the world's most volatile hot spots to seasoned special envoys like Richard Holbrooke, who is tackling the Afghanistan-Pakistan problem, and Dennis Ross, special adviser on Iran and the Persian Gulf... Obama has made clear that he is his administration's chief diplomat, setting not only the priorities but also the tone for how Clinton is expected to interact abroad, said James F. Collins, a former ambassador to Moscow and now a leading Russia expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

"It is a fair judgment that this is not going to be Hillary Clinton foreign policy. He is clearly setting the approach," Collins said in a telephone interview."


I also disagree with you re: Bush/Gen. Powell, as I highly doubt it was Gen. Powell's idea to push the Iraq war. He was a "good
soldier" following the orders of his CIC, and he's paid a price for it.


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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:47 PM
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47. I just want to say I am very happy
Obama is our president and he was smart enough to get Hillary Clinton for SOS.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:43 PM
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18. Baloney.
The SOS works for the president.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:24 PM
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23. That is really not true with either
Any high level employee in any company had a great deal of latitude in doing their job. I doubt Obama wants to micromanage running every department - that's not his management style. Still, both Powell and Clinton will constrain their public comments to the positions Obama decides on. By the way, using Powell as the example falls apart quickly - he did after all make the case for the Iraq War to the UN - even though he had a major disagreement here.

The fact is that the President is the boss and sets the policy - he can also fire a SoS. That is not a "barely senior partner".

Note that even this article does not describe their relationship as warm, but comfortable. I would assume Biden has far more input on policy. For a different view of the politics behind Obama's foreign policy, there's this view:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/27821081/oba...



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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:20 PM
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37. BWAHAAHAAA!!!!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:44 PM
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46. +1
That Jody statement was soooo predictable! :rofl:
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SamCooke Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:48 PM
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58. Bush locked Powell out of a meeting becuz he was late one time
The Prez is always the boss.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 11:59 AM
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66. Really? Was the U.S. Constitution rewritten and we don't know about it?
Edited on Sun May-03-09 12:00 PM by Liberal_Stalwart71
With all due respect, the president nominates his Sec of State. Without that nomination, Hillary would not have that position. Therefore, as the HEAD of the Executive Branch, the president is indeed the boss.

What is it with you Clintonistas? You simply cannot handle the black man being in charge. Get over the primaries! The president IS in charge. And we will congratulate him when he does well and hold him accountable when he messes up.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:35 PM
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67. I disagree with one part of your post.
Cannot handle a black man being in charge? First of all, he's as white as he's black. Furthermore, he was raised by two white women since his father was mostly MIA from his life. Second, who cares about his race?

:shrug:
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:44 PM
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68. What you say about him being biracial is true, but don't be naive. This society sees and treats
Edited on Sun May-03-09 02:44 PM by Liberal_Stalwart71
him as a black man. And as long as that is the case, I do see a subtle racism that exists where this man cannot make it based on his own merit; he needs white people to help him along. It is insulting. And yes, it is racist, whether implicit or explicit. I've dealt with that mindset all of my life. Blacks who are smart and successful have to prove themselves over and over again; their intelligence is always questioned.

President Obama IS the boss! He IS in charge. We need to accept it and help him along in his presidency.

Hillary is the Secretary of State. She is doing a fantastic job and I am very proud of her. But she is a subordinate in the cabinet. There have been numerous threads implying or explicitly stating that she is his equal. She is not. He appointed her to be his SoS. Let's not rewrite the Constitution because a black man is in charge. No one would ever suggest that Condi Rice or Colin Powell were equal to George W. Bush. That notion would be ridiculous!
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:53 PM
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2. This is one of my favorite photos of Hillary and Obama
The other one is the pic that the WH photographer took of them on Air Force One



:7
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:11 PM
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9. I really, really, really like that pic!
:)
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:18 PM
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13. Isn't it a great photo?
Hillary's been very busy these past 100 days.

State Department 100-Day Report

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/rls/dos/122390.htm

:hi:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:20 PM
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15. Thanks for the link.
The whole administration has been very busy! :)
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:02 PM
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20. Yes, they have.
Take care!!

:hi:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:05 PM
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22. There is another photo taken at the same time and place
which shows them casually chatting and laughing.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:51 PM
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59. Would've been great to see them on the swings talking.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:59 PM
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60. Yeah
Well, maybe next time.

:D
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:00 PM
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6. I'm reassured by that picture every time.


:)
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islandgirl808 Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:30 PM
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17. the most important question that needs to be asked is
how does she deal with jet lag?? i love traveling but 22 countries in 3 months?? wow! :patriot:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:58 PM
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19. Cat naps.
Edited on Sat May-02-09 02:58 PM by Beacool
She has the ability to take a nap on any contraption: plane, car, bus, etc. LOL!!!

:7
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:04 PM
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21. Hillary is doing a fine job!
She is the perfect person to sit across the table from the racist puke Avigdor Lieberman. She won't take any shit from him, or anyone else!
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:37 PM
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26. I don't think I would want to hang out in the office
where my husband screwed around on me either. Sometimes I think we all forget that, as a woman I am SURE she hasn't!

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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:42 PM
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27. He didn't do it in the Oval Office.
It was in a small study next to the OO. Besides, she spent another 2 years in the WH after the Monica revelations. Been there, done that.

:shrug:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:45 PM
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:05 PM
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30. Ahhhhh, therein is the rub................
If he's the sole person responsible for every success, then he's also the sole person responsible for every mistake. They can't have it both ways.

:7

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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:08 PM
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32. I know from experience, sometimes you can rub a cat too hard and you get scratched. n/t
Edited on Sat May-02-09 04:09 PM by jody
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:13 PM
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33. Yep, I know that too.
Edited on Sat May-02-09 04:14 PM by Beacool
Cats are their own person and don't suffer fools gladly. Tick them off and you'll know it. LOL!!

:7
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:16 PM
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34. "Cats are their own person" and so is anyone truly qualified to be a Secretary in any WH. n/t
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:59 PM
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51. "Cats.. don't suffer fools gladly." Wow, is that true? Because Rush Limbaugh is a big cat-lover.
Edited on Sat May-02-09 05:02 PM by ClarkUSA
I think Rush is a fool but clearly not everyone does... and his beloved Abyssinians think he's peachy no matter how often
he bashes Pres. Obama.

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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:52 PM
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49. I guess that's where the old proverb "There's more than one way to skin a cat" comes in.
Edited on Sat May-02-09 04:53 PM by ClarkUSA


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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:18 PM
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35. Oh BS!!!
You call people Obama fanatics then turn around with post after post trying to bring him down while building Clinton up.

So, does that make you a Clinton fanatic?

No one here is saying Obama takes all the credit for success nor are they saying he blames others for every mistake.

Have you ever listened to the man? When someone screws up he stands up, faces America and says "I take responsibility".

Your hatred for the man runs deep because you can't get over the primaries. It's obvious you don't like him but theres no need to try and put words into other peoples mouths. He praises those who do well and when someone screws up he takes responsibility.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:22 PM
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38. Your post supports my assertion to which you object. Have a nice day. n/t
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 08:16 PM
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56. Oh I see.
You can sit here and sing Clintons praises all day long because she deserves it while those of us who sing Obamas praises are nothing but worshippers?

Hypocricy is usually a Republican thing.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:44 PM
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57. "Hypocricy is usually a Republican thing", is that the voice of experience speaking? n/t
Edited on Sat May-02-09 09:51 PM by jody
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:05 PM
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61. Nope
It's the voice of someone who pays attention. And I pay attention. And I can see hypocrisy dripping from your posts.

Again, you, on an almost daily basis sing the praises of Clinton then turn around and call those who praise Obama worshippers. See the hypocrisy there or do I need to spell it out even more?

I have no problem with your praising of Clinton, I love the job she does for we, the people. What I have a problem with is being called a worshipper by someone who obviously worhsips Clinton the way you do.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 05:26 PM
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53. It is widely acknowledged that the "buck stops with the President"
Hence the Commander in CHIEF title, not just Commander for When Things go Right/Wrong
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:46 PM
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29. I love her! I hope she is President in 2016 if she wants it.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:06 PM
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31. Jesus, from your lips to your father's ears...............
:D
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:19 PM
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36. She has done very well as Obama's employee, from what I've seen.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:28 PM
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40. And "Obama has done very well as We the People's employee, from what I've seen." n/t
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:30 PM
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42. Indeed he has.
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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:29 PM
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41. Yep, Hillary is doing a great job carrying out Obama's vision for the world
Hillary is an excellent employee doing Obama's bidding. She's a GREAT team player!
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:37 PM
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44. Yeah, a lot of his other choices suck.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:40 PM
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45. lol
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:34 PM
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43. Shedding her campaigns staff was probably the best thing she did.
Those people were just a bunch of highly paid mercenaries that really did not get along.
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