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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:19 AM
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While folks are speculating, here's a wild suggestion: "For the Supreme Court? Al Gore"
Edited on Sat May-02-09 09:20 AM by jefferson_dem
For the Supreme Court? Al Gore
Posted at: 2009-05-02 09:38:18.0
Author: Michael Sean Winters

The news of Justice David Souters retirement adds another challenging task to President Obamas already full plate. There is any number of qualified candidates so the challenge is merely a political one.

Everyone seems to think Obama will choose a woman. I agree that women often bring a different perspective to life and its conundrums, and so would likely bring a different perspective to the application of law. The same holds true for picking a Latino or a Latina, which would place the first Hispanic on the Court. Of course, Obama has no idea how many more appointments he may make so the temptation to appoint someone he really trusts, like Gov. Devall Patrick, must be strong. Whomever he picks must, of course, be liberal enough to satisfy his base without being so left of center as to alter Obamas carefully crafted image as a centrist in governing.

All of these considerations have candidates appropriate to the political dynamics noted above. But there is one person who selection transcends all the different classifications and whose selection would instantly galvanize the entire Democratic Party because it would entail the righting of an injustice that was simultaneously specific and so egregious as to appear cosmic. President Obama should nominate Al Gore to the Court. The choice would be electrifying.

Some will object that Mr. Gore is not even a lawyer, which is true. But, there is a long tradition of having those with legislative or executive experience on the Court, a tradition that has fallen by the wayside as Presidents have sought nominees with little or no paper trail. Earl Warren was a lawyer, and had served as attorney general of California, but it was his stature as a three-term Governor who was nominated by both parties for the job that earned him the nod for the Court in 1953.

Mr. Gore spent sixteen years in Congress making laws, serving in both the House and Senate. He served eight years in the executive branch enforcing laws. All this without a law degree.

Ultimately, the case for a Gore appointment is simple. Conservative jurists justify their rulings by appealing to abstract principles such as "strict construction" or "original intent of the Founders" this last despite the fact that even a modicum of historical familiarity with the Founding shows that the Founders had many and varied intentions for the Constitution they crafted. Liberal jurists care about the real world effects of a law. No one has been the object of both conservative hypocrisy (whither states rights?) and a very nasty real world application of the law in the way Al Gore was in Bush v. Gore.

I suspect President Obama will have other nominations by which he can bring other perspectives to the High Courts proceedings. Mr. Gore might not even desire the appointment. But, in one stroke, Obama could avoid any intra-party grumblings and show to all the world that injustice can be rectified.

http://www.americamagazine.org/blog/entry.cfm?blog_id=2...
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:22 AM
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1. no thanks.
and it's not gonna happen anyway. I like Gore right where he is advocating for the environment.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:35 AM
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2. I think Al Gore would be great.
And how do you know it is only white folks who are speculating about it?

But I don't think Al Gore would want it.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 06:23 PM
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16. Yes, he would be great, and I'll bet he'd accept.
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 06:26 PM
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17. I think
it say "while" not "white". If you scan over it quickly, it does look like white.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:41 AM
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3. Nope. Al's a great guy but that would be an obviously political appointment
Edited on Sat May-02-09 09:42 AM by The Velveteen Ocelot
and that's not what we want on the Supreme Court. The author says it would "galvanize the entire Democratic Party because it would entail the righting of an injustice that was simultaneously specific and so egregious as to appear cosmic." Those are the wrong reasons for selecting a Justice. It should NOT be an overtly political appointment. We can safely assume Obama would appoint a relatively liberal justice and not a conservative like Alito, but to select someone to right a political wrong is not the way to go.

The appointment will almost certainly be a respected, experienced judge with a liberal inclination but whose decisions have been fair and well-reasoned, not politically influenced.

Gore can do much more for his country by continuing his work on climate change issues.
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:45 AM
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4. That Would be the Ultimate Irony of the Universe
Won't happen, but the thought makes me smile just a little...
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:46 AM
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5. Same feeling here.
I don't see this as a reasonable proposal but fun to think about anyway.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:26 PM
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9. I'd like to see him on the court for a challenge to Bush v. Gore
Now THAT would be an opinion to read.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:27 AM
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6. Nice idea, and it would certainly give a sense of satisfaction
but I don't think that he wants to be in government anymore.

In any case such a blatantly political appointment isn't what this country needs right now, and I suspect that Gore would agree.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:29 AM
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7. Al would say no thanks
Lets be honest, if Al wanted to be in government he'd be the President of the United States.

I'm a huge Obama supporter, but Al would have had me simply for justice if he ran in 2008.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:56 PM
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8. S.Ct Justices are typically judges AND who have a distinguished, lengthy
highly respected career in law and as judges. They aren't always judges, though.

Gore doesn't have either a distinguished, highly respected background as a practicing lawyer and has never been a judge, as far as I know.

For possible Souter replacements, look for judges who have what I state above, or other candidates who have a lengthy, highly respected career in law. But mainly it's judges who get the post.

Souter's replacement will NOT be:

1. A politician;
2. Someone who likes or needs the limelight;
3. Someone without a long, distinguished career in law or as a judge.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 05:01 PM
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10. I'd support that just for the head exploding value.
:rofl:
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 05:03 PM
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11. No way, he's going to be our nominee in 2016, right? n/t
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 05:03 PM
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12. Gore dropped out of law school. How is he qualified, exactly?
Is it too much to ask that we get an actual lawyer with, you know, legal experience on the court?

Bill Clinton would be a better choice, and I don't want him on the USSC either.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 05:11 PM
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14. Gore has years of experience as a Legislator. nt
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 06:03 PM
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15. So does Dennis Kucinich. I suppose we should pick him?
:eyes:

Be serious.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 06:31 PM
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18. Obama could very well pick a legislator for the SC
"Sometimes we're only looking at academics or people who've been in the court. If we can find people who have life experience and they understand what it means to be on the outside, what it means to have the system not work for them, that's the kind of person I want on the Supreme Court." --from a debate last year.

The Supreme Court traditionally included people outside of the courts, like governor Warren.

You can read more about it here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/02/us/02assess.html?ref=...
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 07:36 PM
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20. I think Obama, being a lawyer, would want another lawyer on the USSC
Particularly a qualified one with impeccable credentials. He might pick a lawyer who has done community work at some point, but I suspect he'll pick a fellow legal scholar.

If he picks a legislator, he risks a partisan fight.

BTW, Eisenhower regretted picking Warren.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:35 AM
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21. Make no mistake about it, no matter who Obama picks - there is going to be a fight ................
on the floor of the Senate. The only Republicans left in Congress are those from the hardcore right, and a small handful of moderates who are up for reelection in 2010. No matter who the nominee is the leader of the Republican party, Rush Limbaugh, will find a problem with that person just because Obama nominated them. Those Republicans that are left in Congress will fall in lockgoosestep with Limbaugh.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 05:10 PM
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13. Why would Al put himself and Tipper through that again? Same question I had re running for Prez...
As far as anyone can determine, Al Gore is happy and fulfilled doing what he is doing now. I love the guy and don't want to see him suffer any more from the VRWC, which still has its poisonous adherents in Congress.

Also, I'm hoping for someone a bit younger than he (and myself) so the chances of longevity on the Court are upped.

Hekate


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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 07:02 PM
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19. We do not need to make revenge appointments that tie us to old grudges.
Mr. Gore has taken on specific new interests, and should be engaged in the areas of his expertise.
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