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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 08:02 PM
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The Nation: Trust Your Guts
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".....Many Americans want to believe because they think that returning to "normal" means their decimated 401(k) accounts might somehow recover the 30-40 percent that disappeared during the past year. If it takes monster bank bailouts to restore stock-market prices, let's have bailouts. Good luck with that. The Dow has regained 21 percent in two weeks of rallies, but I remind friends that steep, short bursts in the stock market do not foretell the future of the economy. Banks may be relieved of their losses without changing the general economic outlook. After the crash of 1929, there were occasional stock rallies, followed by fierce bears. It took twenty-five years (until 1954) for the Dow to regain its old peak. Another way to assess the Obama plan for reform is ask: who likes it? The verdict was swift and sure after Geithner's twin announcements. Wall Street likes it. The blueprint for regulatory reforms was applauded by the Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association; the American Insurance Association; and the Private Equity Council, the trade group for the major private funds that will get public money and backup insurance to buy the banking system's rotten assets. This could be born-again patriotism. Or it could be the animal appetites of financiers smelling gorgeous opportunity for returns.

This may be one of those moments where people can find some guidance from their moral convictions. They do not need to know all the details to ask simple questions. Does the outline of what's happening to rescue major financial institutions seem morally wrong? Or is it justified by the larger necessities of the national predicament? Is the government insufficiently tough in demanding reciprocal commitments from the beneficiaries? Should Washington pursue larger structural changes in the banking system?

Trying to imagine alternatives to the bankers-first bailouts is a good place to start. What follows are suggestions I produced at the request of young people organizing demonstrations around the country for April 11. They call themselves A New Way Forward. I hope they light lots of bonfires.

This rough outline leaves out lots of particular regulatory issues, but the core goal of reform is to create a banking and financial system that serves the society and the economy, not the other way around. Everything being done to rescue and restore the old order gets in the way of creating something truly new and valuable for the future. Those of us throwing logs in the path of the bailouts are dismissed as naysayers or worse, but the financial titans are trying to foreclose just solutions by stampeding Congress and the president to adopt ill-considered ideas.

If Wall Street gets its way, the "reforms" may further consolidate power and ratify a corporate state--a grotesque hybrid that combines the worst aspects of socialism and capitalism. The reform ideas announced by Geithner would plant the seeds by creating a "systemic risk" regulator, presumably the Federal Reserve, to oversee the largest, most politically adept banks and financial firms that qualify as "too big to fail." Capitalism, with its inherent tendency toward monopoly, would have the means to monopolize democracy (see my recent Washington Post article.) ....."

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<http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090413/greider?rel=hp_picks>
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 08:15 PM
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1. K&R
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 08:22 PM
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2. Fuck THAT idiocy. We just came from 8 fucking years of "going with your gut"...
I can't believe they would even bother with anti-intellectualist bullshit like that.


"Most Americans are not financial experts. It's very difficult, nearly impossible, for normal mortals to sort through the dense policy talk and conflicting opinions to figure out if the rhetoric of reform is real. Confusion is widespread in the land. Most Americans want to believe this president is leading us out of the swamp, but how can they know? I say, trust your gut feelings. They are as reliable as the learned experts."


Fucking piece of shit, anti-thinking, hypocritical fools.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 08:24 PM
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3. if you
read the papers, you'll notice, albeit anecdotally, that many, many Americans are FURIOUS
about the bank bailout....the bonuses, the bailout itself, etc.....

we're giving non recourse loans to the very players who caused this mess, such as BlackRock....

hence the article's title
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 08:35 PM
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5. Fuck that. Get fucking smarter.
Being an idiot is one thing. But it's just fucking insulting to INSIST on an idiot, and using "your gut" instead of fucking learning something.

You're people for fuck's sake, not fucking lobsters. Act like it.

Sheesh.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 08:58 PM
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7. shouting obscenities is your main approach to issues?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 08:28 PM
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4. Good letter to send to the Nation!
Edited on Sat Mar-28-09 08:29 PM by FrenchieCat
I trusted my intellect in working to elect Barack Obama. At this point my gut goes with him....
as opposed to the manufactured astro-turfed outrage sold to us by the corporate media.....
who would rather see this President fail than anything else dealing with this country.

Guess the Nation can't explain it adequately, and so they are saying just F*ck it!
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 08:57 PM
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6. The Nation is not part of the corporate media
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 09:24 PM
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8. I know that.
Doesn't mean some of the writers don't buy into some of the shit some of the time.
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