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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 10:57 AM
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Conservative PAC vows to primary Collins, Snowe and Specter
Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 11:00 AM by ccharles000
All for the unforgivable sin of supporting an economic recovery plan. The right eating it's own once again. And they wonder why they are down to 41 Senators and counting.



An influential conservative political action committee is pledging to support primary challengers to any Republican senator who supports President Obama's stimulus package - the latest public show of dissatisfaction from the right over the massive measure before Congress.
"The American people don't want this trillion dollar political payoff that will just line the pockets of non-governmental organizations who supported Obama in the election," said Scott Wheeler, the executive director of The National Republican Trust PAC, an organization that calls for less government spending and lower taxes.

"Republican senators are on notice," Wheeler said. "If they support the stimulus package, we will make sure every voter in their state knows how they tried to further bankrupt voters in an already bad economy."

In a Senate vote Tuesday, only three Republicans backed the $838 billion measure - Sens. Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins of Maine, and Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter.

All three senators were involved in cutting spending proposals from the plan, and have said they may not vote for the final version bill if more spending projects are added to it.


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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:00 AM
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1. You're right; they're eating their own, with no shining stars on the
horizon to replace them. Boneheaded.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:00 AM
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2. Thanx we could use the assistance.
:evilgrin: :toast: :bounce: :headbang: :yourock:
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:01 AM
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3. They do realize that an arch-conservative would lose the general election for these seats?
Neither of these states is friendly on a statewide level to radical conservatives, but obviously they don't get that.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:01 AM
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4. Those 3 are in purple or blue states. A conservative Pubic wouldn't stand a chance.
That's my thinking, anyway. Plus, those three are very popular in their states.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:24 PM
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9. They should run Santorum
:bouce:
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:01 AM
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5. I think the Obama fundraising machine can counter this.
And on top of funneling money to the three, we have a lot of orgs like ACT and MoveOn that will help us with this by running ads.
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MrPerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:07 AM
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6. Mom's Basement doesn't carry the same weight anymore.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:15 PM
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7. Soooo, they are gonna give us those seats huh?
Maine and PA are moderate states, no way will a typical conservative win there. Maybe they would win in a primary but would lose in the GE. That's okay. Then we can get more liberal Senators in. Or maybe Snowe, Collins and Specter should just change parties.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:24 PM
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8. 3 very winnable seats for us
Especially if they run typical rw lunatics
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:35 PM
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10. We win no matter how this turns out.
Either Collins, Snowe and Specter figure out a way to beat off the fundies and neocons, which is always a good thing - they're the few genuine moderates left in the GOP, and if they can figure out how to survive and thrive, and maybe become a power base in the Republican Party which serves to bring them back into the tent of sanity, that's a good thing.

It's that or the fundies and neocons replace them with yet more raving lunatics, and the Democrats in those states whoop their asses, probably bumping our majority in the Senate well over 60. The Republican party continues its fall into lunacy, rants and raves, but has prominence in all of five states. We'd be able to freely ignore them and steamroll them.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:39 PM
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11. ENominate some more fringe loonies for us to trounce
:thumbsup:
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:46 PM
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12. Good luck with Snowe and Collins. Spend lots of money. Tons
of money. The Maine I visit is center-right not Republicon.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:57 PM
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13. I think the conservative folks who plan to target these three might more
profitably spend their time and money assessing why their political party is in the toilet.

They need a vision and targeting 3 moderates members of their own party doesn't qualify as a vision.

If voters in Maine, for example, return Snowe and Collins by large numbers each election, this PAC should honor their colleagues' support from their constituencies and make plans instead to find at least one damned idea on which to move forwrad as a viable political entity.

At the moment, the conversatives' cupboard is bare.


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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 01:07 PM
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14. If the GOP primaries them and wins, there will be 3 Democrats elected instead.
Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 01:09 PM by 4lbs
In other words, those 3 Senate seats occupied by Specter, Snowe, and Collins, are in Blue states, and they are moderate GOP. They'll be occupied by moderate GOP that can work with President Obama, or else the people of those states will simply elect a Democrat to those spots.

However, if the RNC wants to give President Obama 62 Democrats in the Senate, go right ahead.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 01:13 PM
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15. What fucking idiots. The only 3 GOP Senators worth a damn...
so of course they want to get rid of them. Morons.
They deserve what they get.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 01:14 PM
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16. Good. If they primary them, we win those seats. nt
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:58 PM
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36. not unless WE have a strong candidate.n/t
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 01:15 PM
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17. Conservative PAC vows to replace Collins, Snowe, and Specter with Democrats
There, fixed the headline for ya.

:evilgrin:
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 01:19 PM
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18. they are nuts! if the economy even appears to be turning around
by the midterm elections, then they would have a better chance of winning with these three candidates. the only reasonable republicans. but, hey.... bury yourselves even more.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 02:07 PM
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19. These folks obviously don't know Maine very well
That would guarantee the seats would go blue.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 02:22 PM
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20. so, like, is that a threat or a promise?
Bwah!hah!hah!hah!hah!

And should I temporarily switch to rethug the get a hard right nut up against a dem here in Maine?

Or stay where I am and let Collins and Snowe continue on. They're very popular here. The only way those morons will replace them is with a dem.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 02:44 PM
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21. Say hello to Senator Tweety, if that's the case.
And Collins and Snowe aren't going anywhere. Maine's invested in them.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:19 PM
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24. No thanks. We don't need any weather-vane Dems in the Senate. We can do better. n/t
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:38 PM
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33. He already said he's not running nt
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:11 PM
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22. Those three better get out while the gettin's good.
They're destined to suffer Lincoln Chafee's fate.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:13 PM
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23. Oh, that is fabulous.
Pretty please, do it.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:39 PM
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25. Good. Bloody them up so we can get some Democrats in there.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:44 PM
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26. The rushlicans are VERBOTEN to march out of lockstep.
To do so means retaliation.

It's childish.

It's simple.

It's the rightwingnut way.



Rightwingnuts; stupidest MFers ever.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 11:55 PM
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27. This Is Why The Dems Are The Majority Party - We Tolerate Dissenting Viewpoints
Here, the cons are going to primary their own moderates and get killed in these states. Contrast that to the new Senator from NY, Gillenbrand. The Dem establishment supports her even though she has a right of center stand on guns.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:19 AM
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28. Rock on.
Lets get them to do the same to some more. The more they eat their own, the better we will do.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:27 AM
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29. Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooood
Maine is probably not going to elect a wingnut senator. So if Snowe or Collins is primaried out, then the replacement will lose the election. Same with Specter.

Anyway, Specter said more GOP senators wanted to support the stimulus but were afraid of this happening (being primaried out). Kudos to Snowe, Collins and Specter who had the courage a lot of the other GOP senators did not have.
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Cash_thatswhatiwant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:30 AM
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30. why does maine keep re-electing republican senators??????
were the democratic options just that bad?

Pennsylvania is more understandable...its like someone said, the reddest of the blue states.

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WonderGrunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:41 PM
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34. Not necessarily bad
But usually they're horribly organized in their campaign and message or they're long time politicians with lots of baggage inside of the state.
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WonderGrunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:24 PM
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31. Snowe and Collins
both have had conservative challengers every election up here in Maine. We are not a conservative state. It would be impossible to successfully primary either of them without ceding the seats to Democratic candidates in the general election.

Come to think of it, that's not bad either.

Go Scott Wheeler and NRTPAC (which will heretofore be called NerdPAC)

:rofl:
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:37 PM
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32. Goodie!
:bounce: :bounce:

dg
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 02:57 PM
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35. Snowe is running in '10..Specter '10 and Collins in '12
I think they are all "safe", although Specter's age/health mnay make him vulnerable..

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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 04:56 PM
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37. Party uber constituents.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:17 PM
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38. If they try to run a rabid conservative in Maine, they'll lose.
But they're welcome to waste money attempting to do so. The city of Portland alone would completely outvote any wingnut.
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