There's something really sad about a competition over what group

[cali]

has been/is the most persecuted/discriminated against. We shouldn't be pitting groups against one another. We should be standing together against discrimination against any group.

[BlooInBloo]

1. Are single white straight American suburban raised 30ish men in the running?

[cali]

2. only in freeperville.

[BlooInBloo]

9. Bah - that's no good. Ok then - let's all stand together!

:P

[yardwork]

7. They're running things, that's for sure.

[mondo joe]

3. Agreed. Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.

Equal rights for all.

[supernova]

5. That's the only way it works

AFIK.

:thumbsup:

[scheming daemons]

4. Republicans defeat us when we fight amongst ourselves

We defeat them when we work together.



Groupism hurts us.

[mondo joe]

6. It's a standard Repub tactic to make people think liberty is a pie and you only get more

by someone else getting less.

It's a standard technique to turn minorities in coalitions against each other.

[yardwork]

8. Thank you, cali

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[Starry Messenger]

11. What a great post.

Says it all really.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

12. agreed. nt

[Maven]

13. *nodding*

[Jamastiene]

14. United we stand. Divided we fall.

K&R

[Dennis Donovan]

15. Recommended.

:thumbsup:

[Malikshah]

16. What is more sad is when people refuse to realize the real suffering a group

is going through and tell them to pipe down and wait.

[cali]

19. yes, that's sad too. n/t

[Peacetrain]

17. It just goes to show, that sometimes the greatest truths, take the fewest words to explain

:hug: Thank you

[Starry Messenger]

18. kick.

this needs more rec's people!

[quakerboy]

20. Yup

I hate to see it happening here.

[bullwinkle428]

21. This is the true "BIG PICTURE" that some here are failing to see.

[HamdenRice]

22. I don't think it's competition. It's a debate about historical facts

When someone says that the Rick Warren invitation is the equivalent of the Nazi gas chambers or final solution, or that the position of GLBT people in California after Prop 8 is the same as African Americans before the civil rights movement, that person is making a factually inaccurate statement -- not to mention an idiotic, historically illiterate, racist and anti-Semitic statement -- and anyone who uses those analogies needs to be called on it.

It has nothing to do with competition. Competition would be, say, Blacks and Jews arguing over whether the slave trade and slavery were the equivalent of the holocaust. You never hear that because both peoples know that world historical horrors are unfathomable and therefore incomparable.

But saying that the position of GLBT people is comparable to either is just plain factually stupid.