Let's Just Impeach Him.

[Yes We Did]

Let's just Impeach Obama... Then we can Impeach Biden... Then Pelosi... Then whoever the hell is after that.

We'll just keep going down the line till we find the perfect candidate who is able to make every single American happy.

There has to be one out there... right?

Look, yeah... the Warren thing sucks. I don't like it. I think it's a mistake. However, I have to look at one possibility.

Obama is going to need some republican votes to get everything he wants done... done. This will help. You think there aren't any moderate republicans in the senate sitting back watching Obama and thinking... he IS reaching across to us, maybe I'll help break a filibuster down the road on something...

We wanted Obama.
We got Obama.

He's not going to make all of us happy all of the time.

He shouldn't.

That's what Bush tried to do with the republicans and looked how that worked out. They got their asses handed to them. I don't want to be on the other side of that in 8 years. Do you?

I have to believe that this will work itself out. What other choice do I have? He's about to be our President. And I believe he is going to do a hell of a job, even if he pisses me off now and then.

As far as the complaining... you won't hear me say stop. I don't think you should. If it were me, I wouldn't stop until I was given the rights I am supposed to have.

I'd protest.
I'd fight.
I'd yell.
I'd scream.
I wouldn't stop until I had what was rightfully mine.

And I hope you all do just that.

Equal rights for every single American; regardless of race, religion, sex, sexuality, age... That is what this country is SUPPOSED to be for, and that is what I support.

100%

Goodnight.

[Maven]

1. There are so many mixed messages here I don't know what to make of this.

In one breath, you sarcastically say "let's impeach him," as in "stop overreacting."

In the next you say, "keep shouting for equal rights."

Oh, and your idea of winning over Republicans is an absolute hoot. One would think you'd never seen how they operate.

[Yes We Did]

3. What I'm saying is...

There isn't any one out there that is going to please every single person. It's not possible.

As far as reaching out... Did you miss the last 2 years? That has been Obama's message the whole time.

He is going to reach across the aisle. There are at least half a dozen republican senators that are happy to work with him.

[Maven]

7. Certain issues like respect for human rights should be non-negotiable.

This isn't about pleasing every single person. That's a strawman. This is not a "disagreement" or policy dispute, as Obama would like us to believe. This is about enabling those who undermine the dignity, safety and civil rights of an entire group of people.

Your OP is still a self-contradictory mishmash of "STFU" and "fight for your rights," although I suspect your feelings are more of the former than the latter.

[Yes We Did]

8. And I think you don't know what you are talking about.

I have been working steadily since prop 8 passed with different organizations in the GLBT community to help get it reversed.

And I never said it was merely a "disagreement" or "STFU" so I would appreciate it if you wouldn't use quotes there.

Simply put; Obama is the most progressive president we will have had to this date. If you have someone better, who can fix everyone's problems... name that person.

He will do more for the GLBT community than any other president has done. He's not event the president yet. Let's not crucify him before he is even in office.

[Maven]

10. I'm just trying to figure out what you're talking about.

Thank you for your help on Prop 8.

[Yes We Did]

19. What I'm saying is the answer lies somewhere in the middle.

A lot of people are going over board with their blame of Obama. A lot of people are blowing it off like it is no big deal.

Both are wrong.

Yes, be pissed off about it. We ALL should.

But still recognize that Obama is still the person we elected.
Recognize that it is still politics. And recognize that if you are going to get anything done (if he is going to get anything done) You are going to need republicans too.

In the mean time, don't stop fighting. All politics starts local. Get out and organize. Volunteer for the cause. That is what I have been doing.

I don't always put things the most articulately. I don't try to. Generally, I write this stuff as it comes out of my head, and aside from a spell check, I rarely proof it before I post it. I find the raw emotion is normally most compelling.

Sometimes I offend. Sorry if I offended you.

[rpannier]

15. A few things

1. Obama is the most progressive president we will have to this date...You know this how. Based on his cabinet picks coming mostly from the ranks of Al From's friends one could reasonably argue against that.

2. He will do more for the GLBT community than any other president in history. How do you know that?

3. Will he be willing to spend political capital on GLBT issues or will he decide there are more important issues?

4. He asked for input...He's getting it. Beware what you wish for, for you may get it.

5. His purpose for inviting Warren is because Warren invited him 2 years ago. This is to return a favor. Obama even said that

[Truth2Tell]

2. "I hope you all do just that"

"you all?" Do you mean teh gays? Or all of us libruls?

And when should we do this? While you're sleeping? Or while you're making obnoxious "get over it" posts on DU?

[Yes We Did]

4. I mean everyone.

I have been working my ass off for the GLBT community since prop 8 passed. What have you been doing?

[dflprincess]

5. A truly moderate Republican would not be any more impressed by the selection of Warren than we are.

And nothing Obama does will impress the wingnuts.

[Yes We Did]

6. I think you are wrong.

And obviously so does Obama. He's been right so far. I don't see any reason to start doubting him now.

[Balderdash]

13. So, it's ok with you if we gays get thrown under the bus

again. If you've been helping on Prop 8, were you paying attention?
You don't honor a bigot. You don't lend that bigot respectability with
a plum spot on the stage.

[Yes We Did]

20. Please don't use sound bites with me.

Nobody is getting tossed under the bus. There is no bus. Use your own words; not something a pundit said.

[Clio the Leo]

9. NO! Not BIDEN TOOOO!!!!

I aint done lusting over him yet!

[Jennicut]

22. LOL! Me neither!

But I promise not to make stalkerish photo threads about him.

[xchrom]

11. ...

:crazy:

[stillcool]

12. I think impeachment is in our future...

or something as effective.

[earthlover]

18. that would make the Republicans very happy! Is that our goal?

I must say, he hasn't even been inaugurated yet and already talk of impeachment! What a hoot! I swear Democrats don't know how to handle victory! We have the opportunity to make some meaningful changes for this country, we actually have a mandate. So....because our president-elect is not perfect we throw out the baby with the bathwater? Smart...real smart.....NOT!!!!

[Yes We Did]

21. This is what they mean by infighting.

:shrug:

[stillcool]

27. that certainly is the way it seems to me....

trash and bash and sit back and enjoy the show..and then complain about 'not the change I voted for'.

[alphafemale]

14. I know. I'm not exactly pleased.

But I doubt Martin Luther King was in favor of gay marriage either. Let's dig up his corpse for people to piss on, shall we?

Actually, I'm not exactly in favor of gay marriage. But, then, I'm not in favor of straight marriages either. I don't think the State has any business in what is largely a religious matter. It should be civil unions only that are protected by laws. Get Married in church.

[McCamy Taylor]

16. Democrats would much rather eat their own than take a stand against Republicans

This is why our Congress never impeached W. They are just representing the Democrats who elected them. Quick to call their own "guilty" but they let Republicans get away with murder.

I guess this is why Republicans have all the money and Democrats are always getting screwed.

[EFerrari]

17. That's exactly backward. They protect each other and in order to do that,

they wound up protecting the torture president and his mob.

Good grief.

[mondo joe]

23. Does eating our own include honoring pig bigots who disenfranchise gays?

Just wondering. Thanks.

[Yes We Did]

24. Only when we get to turn the pig into bacon and ham.

It is Christmas and all.
:yoiks:

[mmonk]

25. Tons of straw around here lately.

[LWolf]

26. No.

I just want, as I have wanted, to impeach Bush.

I would have been thrilled if Pelosi's constituents had sent her packing. I have no respect or support left for her. Being a complicit tool is not in itself, though, an impeachable offense.

"We" didn't want Obama. I have been loudly transparent about opposing Obama's nomination, about opposing Obama's centrism, all along. I didn't get what I wanted. Of course, I never expected to get what I wanted. I hoped that I would get something that I needed, though.

That hope was gone last January.

So of course, I'm not going to shut up. I'll keep opposing him. Our voices are just louder now, because some who thought that he was somehow going to be a friend to liberals have had a rude awakening.

I wish they hadn't been lulled to sleep during the primaries.

:shrug: