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msfiddlestix Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:01 AM
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Rev. Eric Lee taking a stand against Bigotry & Inviting R. Warren to a Real Debate (action alert)
Please help "change the conversation"...see Courage Campaign links at the bottom, sign on to invitation and then forward on to friends and family. :hi:



"I'm opposed to redefinition of a 5,000 year definition of marriage. I'm opposed to having a brother and sister being together and calling that marriage. I'm opposed to an older guy marrying a child and calling that marriage. I'm opposed to one guy having multiple wives and calling that marriage." -- Rick Warren, Pastor of Saddleback Church, December 15, 2008





Incest. Pedophilia. Polygamy.

When Pastor Rick Warren was asked to clarify this statement -- if he actually equates same-sex marriage with incest, pedophilia and polygamy -- his answer was direct and unequivocal: "Oh, I do."

That didn't stop President-elect Barack Obama from choosing Pastor Warren to give the invocation at his inauguration -- an appalling mistake that will forever tarnish our country's celebration of Obama's historic ascendance to the White House.

While President-elect Obama has chosen to ignore the troubling beliefs of the man who will spiritually usher in his presidency, Californians can not ignore Rick Warren and his Saddleback Church followers, based in Orange County.
We can not ignore Rick Warren's fervent support for Proposition 8 or his mobilization of thousands of evangelical Christians to enshrine discrimination into our state constitution.

Harvey Milk did not ignore John Briggs in 1978, when Briggs sought to pass Proposition 6 -- the infamous "Briggs Initiative" that attempted to ban gay and lesbian teachers, and anyone who supported them, from our California's public schools. Milk challenged Briggs to debates across the state.

And we're not going to ignore Rick Warren. That's why we're asking you to give Pastor Warren a new invitation -- a Courage Campaign invitation to a public debate on same-sex marriage with Reverend Eric Lee, President of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) of Greater Los Angeles.

It's time to challenge Rick Warren to an open, honest debate about same-sex marriage. Click here now to join us, by signing your name to our invitation to Rev. Warren to debate Rev. Eric Lee. On December 24, the Courage Campaign will deliver your signatures to Pastor Warren at the Saddleback Church in Orange County:
http://www.couragecampaign.org/RickWarrenDebate

You may not know Rev. Eric Lee. But you should.

Rev. Eric Lee is a courageous leader on marriage equality in the faith community and in the African American community. Representing the SCLC, founded by the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., Rev. Lee expressed his strong opposition to Prop 8 in October by taking a stand with the Courage Campaign against the Mormon Church's heavy involvement in the Prop 8 campaign.

Now, Rev. Lee is taking a stand again, challenging Pastor Warren to a debate about Prop 8 and same-sex marriage.

Rev. Eric Lee needs your support to challenge Rev. Rick Warren to debate Prop 8 and explain Warren's comparison of same-sex marriage to incest, pedophilia and polygamy. Please sign here -- and ask your friends to gather as many signatures as possible -- before December 24:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/RickWarrenDebate

Thank you for everything you are doing to restore marriage equality and push for progressive change in California.
Rick Jacobs
Chair

P.S. To repeal Prop 8, and change California forever, we need to change the conversation.

You can change the conversation by signing this invitation to Rick Warren and forwarding this message to your friends today. The more signatures we gather, the more likely Rick Warren's views on same-sex marriage will be challenged, this time by another man of faith. DEADLINE: DECEMBER 24:
http://www.couragecampaign.org/RickWarrenDebate

..............


Courage Campaign Issues is part of the Courage Campaign's online organizing network that empowers over 300,000 grassroots and netroots activists to push for progressive change in California.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:10 AM
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1. I signed the petition!
I love the Courage Campaign!
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msfiddlestix Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:14 AM
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2. Thank you! ... feel free to forward on to friends...
and family if you have a few minutes..

thanks again! :applause:
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 01:00 AM
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9. And, THANK YOU!
Edited on Sat Dec-20-08 01:00 AM by Maat
:hug:
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:16 AM
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3. The first meaningful post all day.
Edited on Sat Dec-20-08 12:20 AM by izzybeans
K and r

and signed.

kick this in the a.m. when more people are on.
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msfiddlestix Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:27 AM
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4. thanks to a friend of mine..
who fowarded this invitation who knows I have a daughter and daughter in-law (and a brand new baby grandaughter!) who will be (and is) impacted by this hate and bigotry..

thanks again for your support!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:31 AM
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5. Enlightened religious leaders MUST call out Rick Warren.
Where is the outrage that this man does not represent enlightened thought? We need religious leaders who will challenge Warren to publicly debate and defend his statements.
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msfiddlestix Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:39 AM
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6. exactly..
please forward on to friends if you have a few minutes.. tia :hi:
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:36 PM
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17. imo that's so important!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:42 AM
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7. Signed
This is the way to handle this. Challenge these people in a public forum.
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msfiddlestix Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 01:54 AM
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13. Yes.. Challenging bigotry in the public forum
is the only way to confront this for what it is.. I believe.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:52 AM
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8. Welcome to DU!
Great post!

:hi:
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msfiddlestix Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 01:50 AM
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11. thank you!
I think those of us who have friends and family within the LGBT community really need to step up to the plate on this issue.. :hi:
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 01:03 AM
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10. Forwarded this to everyone I know. I don't think Warren will
have the guts to debate this in a public forum, but hope he does, and I hope Eric Lee is really good.
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msfiddlestix Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 01:52 AM
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12. blessings to you!
I share the same sentiments, but we have to "keep the faith" in our collective voices, hearts and minds..
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:55 AM
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14. I doubt Warren will accept...
Edited on Sat Dec-20-08 05:57 AM by Karenina
But SHOULD he, the Right Reverend should bring this kid along as his second.

Jeff.T.Williamson (at) gmail . com. Video by Daniel Gonzales: exgaysurvivordan ( at) gmail . com.
My parents sent me to an ex-gay therapist.

Watch him KNOCK THE SHIT OUT OFF THE BALLPARK! :bounce::bounce::bounce:


www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kPo7KGj1OE
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msfiddlestix Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:37 PM
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15. ex-gay therapist?
as in "formerly gay" ??? how does that work? :shrug:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:35 PM
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16. It's called "reparative therapy" aka "pray away teh gay."
It's seriously nasty, abusive quackery with a "success rate" of pain, humiliation and broken lives.
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msfiddlestix Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:34 PM
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18. perverse sick sadistic bastards
arrggh...
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 10:36 AM
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20. Did you watch the video?
Oh, to have been a fly on the wall as Jeff DEMOLISHED the therapist's "Biblical" stances. He had such a sly smile when warning: kids, don't try this at home. :rofl:
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:40 PM
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19. this is great
With apologies for my brief dalliance with Pollyanna-ism, I'd love to see the end of the hate.

In studying the bible in theology class, my understanding of the message Christ stood for is so different from the one being espoused by the fundies. It was the people who thought they knew Jesus's desires who caused the most problems. They were warned by the bible about this kind of behavior.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 11:42 AM
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21. the debate would be most interesting
nt
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