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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 04:56 PM
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The Repugs May Feel Orgamsic Right Now, But Blago Was Premature Ejaculation
Edited on Wed Dec-10-08 05:04 PM by IWantAnyDem
Blago getting busted in about March would have been a much bigger problem for Obama because a Senate pick would have already been seated.

Timing is everything and there was no better possible time for Blagojevich to be taken down.

And as anybody who has paid attention in Illinois could tell you, Blagojevich was going down. Nothing was going to stop that. Going down before the election could have cost Barack the election even though Barack did nothing. But having the bust happen right now puts it behind Barack before he really starts the job of governing this nation and keeps a tainted Senator from sitting in Barack's old seat when the fit hit the shan.

Fitzgerald timed it perfectly to have the minimal impact on the new administration. If Fitzgerald is anything, he is cognizant of unintended political consequences over his prosecutions.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:00 PM
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1. You make a very good case.
:thumbsup:

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:01 PM
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2. There is a natural tendency for voters to pay less attention to politics during the holidays
Politicians know this.

If Republicans controlled congressional investigating committees with subpoena power, they might have been able to keep this story alive, but alas, they don't.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:04 PM
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3. Great post, glad to K&R
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:06 PM
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4. Good point.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:14 PM
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5. That's my feeling too.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:14 PM
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6. What you say makes a lot of sense. And also, the longer
Blago went on with his schemes, the more bystanders he could have pulled into the muck.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:25 PM
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7. K/R.
:kick:
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:32 PM
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8. Thank you!
It is the same way the Obama campaign handled things. Neutralize the poison early on. Don't let things just happen.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:57 PM
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9. I agree...I think this is just like all things Obama
and he is handling it perfectly.

I also sense it could be a perfect opportunity to let the fringe right pundits hang themselves by making allegations based on supposition which are later proven false. If this happens, Obama has a weapon for the next 8 years.

Lipstick on a pig. Remember that? Our guy knows what he's doing. I love watching him in action. They never see it coming, either.

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 07:07 PM
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10. Agreed. nt
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 07:39 PM
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11. Yeah, I'll say.
Edited on Wed Dec-10-08 07:40 PM by sofa king
He also timed his prosecution of someone--anyone? No--just one of the group of people who conspired to blow the cover of a CIA agent, so that it would have minimal impact on that administration.

And boy, did we ever pay for that.
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mwei924 Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 07:41 PM
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12. Awesome analogy btw.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 07:54 PM
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13. They're suffering from what Keith Olbermann would call "premature jocularity."
They won't be gleeful for long.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 08:17 PM
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15. The best part is, it's a distraction for the Birth Certificate Cultists
Once they realize that Blagojevich was hated by everybody in the Democratic PArtic of Illinois and that the IL-GOP was working mroe closely with the bastard than his own party was, they'll be back to ranting about Obama's "forged" birth certificate.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 08:16 PM
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14. A stai on the bathroom carpet of life...
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 08:25 PM
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16. Yep. Besides, 'guilt by association' doesn't work on Obama.
It drives the RW nuts, but it's true. He enjoys too much public support for that shit to touch him.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:32 AM
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23. I was thinking the same thing
I don't think that Blago would have cost Obama the election by any means. But the OP's point is valid in that I think it would have cast an unwanted and unnecessary cloud over his campaign which still wouldn't have been a good thing.

Really interesting points in the OP. Glad to see them here.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 08:26 PM
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17. Plus, it is holiday season after one of the most watched presidential campaigns ever.
People are burned out and not paying as much attention. Perfect timing is right.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 08:38 PM
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18. Good points.
Thanks.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 08:44 PM
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19. Problem is if Jackson Jr. really is #5 it's REALLY bad. I'm pretty sure the senate seat will
go republican. I'm thinking mark kirk. He's pretty conservative. I'm thinking the rest of IL is gonna go conservative probably Chicago will stay dem. They will paint all left wingers as being like blago. It's bad. oy vey.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 08:45 PM
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20. Nope, not bad at all
and Quinn will probably end up naming the replacement.

And we're almost two years away from the next election.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 08:47 PM
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21. Quinn won't. Too much taint in the idea of an appointment. I bet you mark kirk
will be our next senator. oy vey.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 08:50 PM
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22. I bet you're wrong. n/t
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:39 AM
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24. I think your scenario sound much more plausible
Edited on Thu Dec-11-08 12:43 AM by Number23
Isn't this type of thing the entire reason we have Lt. Governors and Deputy whatevers? So that if the primary official becomes incapacitated (or arrested) there is a natural, logical line of succession?

Since Quinn is also a Dem, I can't think of any reason why he wouldn't be allowed to step in once appointed Gov and put in his own Democratic choice for the Senate. The chance for a special election is also high but perhaps not quite as.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 01:04 AM
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25. That is a very practical way of viewing this entire situation. Kudos.
However, the Blagojevich situation also overshadowed the fact that a Minnesota Court of Appeals refused to overturn Larry Craig's guilty plea. That too should have been played up yesterday in the MSM. But it wasn't.
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Hokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 07:35 AM
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26. I agree on this
The media will have fun for a while but when the dust settles the facts are that Fitz has a weak case, Blagojevich schemed but didn't really get anything. He will be impeached or resign. The Lt. Gov. will make the senatorial appointment and life will move on to the next scandal, possibly Norm Coleman.
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prostock69 Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 08:00 AM
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27. Agree as well. :)
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 08:30 AM
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28. If I have only one regret in all of this, it's that...
We'll never know which corrupt politicians might have taken Blagojevich up on his offer.

Almost like the sting went down a little too soon, you know?


In any case, I'm always amazed at the sheer audacity and huge egos of people who think they can get away with stuff like this for very long. Especially given the track record, in this case, of some of the people who preceded Blagojevich.
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