Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Who Has Standing In Determining Eligibility For the Presidency?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:20 AM
Original message
Who Has Standing In Determining Eligibility For the Presidency?
The answer is quite simple under the constitution.

Standing in the issue of eligibility first falls to the several states under the 10th, 12th, and 20th amendments.

In all 50 states, standing is transmitted to the people via an electoral process for the choosing of electors. Documentary evidence within the several states may or may not be required. some states required sworn affidavits as to eligibility. The final say is with the electorate.

In 2008, issues regarding Barack Obama's eligibility were raised. Through the electoral process, the American People had standing to make a determination as to the veracity of the claims surrounding Barack Obama's eligibility. As it so happened, the vast majority of the American people who chose to exercise the franchise determined Barack Obama was eligible. This is as far as the standing of the American People went and the American people spoke.

Now that the electors have been chosen, only the Congress holds standing in determining eligibility. This is why all of these crazy lawsuits are being thrown out of court. No court in the United States has jurisdiction in this matter. The matter is 100% within the hands of Congress according to the 12th amendment. Under 3 U.S.C. 15. Section 15., a methodology for raising objections is laid out. DUers are very familiar with this as one Congressperson and one Senator must submit in writing their objection to the results of the electoral college vote (see Barbara Boxer in 2004).

So now the desperate Freepers and PUMAs simply need to find one congressperson and one Senator to raise an objection to the election of Barack Obama based upon eligibility and have that argument sway a majority of the Congress.

As DUers know, that is one tall order.

For A More In Depth Take On This, Click Here
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:29 AM
Response to Original message
1. This is a silly fringe argument.
I don't know why this is even being discussed anymore. His citizenship has been proven far beyond any reasonable doubt. You'd have to believe in a conspiracy that goes at least as far back as 1961 when his birth announcement appeared in at least one Hawaiian newspaper.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:35 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. That frivolous lawsuits are being brought is even more silly
Courts have no jurisdiction in the matter under the constitution.

It's just one huge assed waste of the court's time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:41 AM
Response to Original message
3. Great info!
:hi:

This is going to be up there with those out-there "fringe on the flag means admiralty jurisdiction" and the "income tax amendment is invalid" sorts of conspiracy theories.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 04:08 PM
Response to Original message
4. I would love for all of the Republican Representatives and Senators raise the objection.
And make a fool of themselves.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. So would I
It would really make them look like conspiracy theory nuts.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 10:40 PM
Response to Original message
6. Very strange thread indeed...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 10:58 PM
Response to Original message
7. Well said. The "court of last resort" is congress, not the Supremes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 11th 2024, 08:56 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC