About the documents (could be good or could be bad)

[ItsMyParty]

It was the middle of the night when I realized something about those documents and need to see a picture of them. I was a secretary during that era. What I realized was bothering me was certain remarks critics made about how the guy didn't type, etc.

Those guys back then NEVER typed. It wasn't today where people had computers on their desks. They dictated or handwrote their correspondence and memos and clerks/typists or secretaries typed them. You'd have a hard time finding a guy who could type. I knew from one document I saw that it was done professionally because of the nice centered heading, etc. Beleive me it wasn't like you on your computer nowdays. Someone who didn't know how to type or could barely type would still be pecking away botching the hell out of it and would have no idea how to foremat a proper document. That's when I realized no one had looked for something.

Typists/secretaries always put their initials at the bottom of the page....either alone or with a slash after the boss' initials. Are there any on these documents? If not, then something is wierd (even more especially for military correspondence). If they are there, then investigators ought to be able to track down the typists. Probably the typist was in their early 20's which would make them in their 50's today. The typist could tell whether or not they had the Selectrics, etc. as typewriters. So.....do the docs have the initials???

[fearnobush]

1. Who cares, pay backs are a bitch. Kerry can prove his earned

his medels, he volunteered, showed up, fought. Bush, Mr Fortunate Son, bailed...AWOL, and no one can prove he was not AWOL.

[dennis4868]

2. My great uncle was in the military.....

and did his own typing....i dont agree with your point....sorry.

[mourningdove92]

3. Actually, I did think of that, and I did look, and no there are no

initials. However, I don't think that means a hill of beans. We are talking about private "memos to file" and it is reasonable that Killian would have typed those himself, even if he had to hunt and peck.

nothing to see here, move along.

[CatWoman]

4. LOL

I had logged off DU last night and was watching CNN late news.

Some idiot came on saying the documents were false, because a Lt. Col. wouldn't have taken the time to type memos.

I almost logged back on to make the point: Of course Lt. Col's don't type fucking memos -- they have clerks and secretaries to do it for them.

When I was in the Army, I was in admin.

I know what the hell I'm talking about.

Hell -- officers as low as lieutenant didn't do their own typing, either.

0n edit: lack of initials mean absolutely nothing.

I've typed many, many documents for my bosses, and didn't put my reference initials on them.

[ET Awful]

7. When I was in the National Guard, the admin people

all did their own typing. In fact, they were always pissed because they couldn't get authorization for a clerk/typist in the office.

[Eric J in MN]

9. CatWoman - Did you intitial everything you

typed when you were in the military?

[CatWoman]

11. hell no

it really wasn't required to do things by the book.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

13. My Dad was a Lt. Col. in the U.S. Air Force

He was a career military man and flew in Vietnam. He was a hunt-and-peck two-fingered typist at best. I visited his offices when I was a kid at the various bases where he was stationed. They had secretaries do all the typing. Some of his reports were extremely long (such as those when my father was involved in the creation of the underground complex at Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado Springs) and they always had secretaries that took dictation. Maybe the National Guard however was not as well staffed as the regular Air Force. I don't know.

[Myrina]

5. I dated a Marine Staff Sgt for awhile ....

... and he typed. Typed like sh*t, but did type, his own reports.

A another male friend of mine was in the Navy in the 70's - also did his own typing.


Sorry.

[kestrel91316]

6. I think for confidential "CYA" memos like these..................

that he probably typed them up himself, in private, because they were so sensitive. I know I would.

[CatWoman]

8. nope -- I've typed stuff like that for my boss

plus, before I left the military, my boss was a full Colonel.

He had a secretary, and she typed stuff like them for him.

I know because she would let us see some of the juicy ones.

[John Q. Citizen]

10. since bush would know

if the documents are accurate, why wouldn't he denounce them if they are false?

Of course if they are true, why would he denounce them as false, that would be digging a hole, or why would he say anything?

He hasn't said anything.

Look, when the swifties lied about Kerry, he denounced them and said they are lying.

But not a peep from Bush about his own records.

Why not?

The forgery charges made by other people than Bush is just a red herring, a diversion from the truth in those documents.

[ItsMyParty]

12. I'd like to see them because at a quick glance this a.m. I thought

I saw one on the bottom right of one of the memos ( a memo that was very crowded up to the top of the page). Usually those initials weren't on the right but on the left but if they are there it could lead to someone in that office who could verify what kind of machinery they had. Also, it is possible that someone blocked off initials before sending the docs to CBS because didn't want a typist tracked down. Again, I find it hard to believe that someone of his rank sat in the office typing. They had enlisted personnel for this. When his son said he didn't type--well, then who the hell did his paperwork for him?? I bet all his records are not hand written. Someone had to do typing for him.

[TrueAmerican]

15. And remember this was a flying squadron

Flyboys are spoiled and always get what they want.

[vetwife]

14. I worked for Philco/Ford and I never initaled everything and had a boss

male who could outype me by 4o wpm. I typed 65 WPM. In Fact when he typed anything he never initialed. The truth is initals only applied as mandatory in my work settings if there were more than three typists in the pool.