Should the Bush-Cheney Administration Be Investigated/Prosecuted for Torture and other crimes?

[Pryderi]

Poll question: Should the Bush-Cheney Administration Be Investigated/Prosecuted for Torture and other crimes?

[Pryderi]

1. If Obama doesn't pursue an investigation and prosecution? n/t

[Pryderi]

2. oooo...1 vote not to pursue and prosecute! Principles sacrificed for political expediency?

[pocoloco]

6. It amazes me the number of people who do not realize

the importance of keeping your powder dry!!

[grantcart]

3. No Crimes should be investigated not people or administrations

Find the specific violation of the law - find the specific person in the intelligence community who will document that the administration violated the law by coercing intelligence analysts to conform to policy objectives.

Build the evidence from the bottom and apply pressure up the chain of command. This is how the most successful prosecutions are done.

Investigating the Bush Administration to find a violation - that's what the special prosecutor on Whitewater did - start with a person and conduct an investigation to find a crime.


Start with the crime and work up.

[Pryderi]

4. Crimes are usually committed by people, aren't they?

[grantcart]

8. Don't be obtuse

Investigations that target people without a well defined crime as its objective is a witch hunt, that is exactly what Whitewater was. The general public will see an investigation that targets political leaders as being pay back.


What will work is working back from a well defined crime, a violation of a specific code and working back from there.


What you are proposing is nothing different than the Police investigating a local person (let's say a labor leader or a civil rights leader) because they don't like them, and continuing that investigation until they eventually find something to prosecute with.

Go to the scene of the crime. Was the intelligence community pressured into changing or curtailing intelligence opportunities because that violated the law. Work back from the crime. Who did it. Go before the grand jury and indict from the bottom up. Investigate the crimes, not the people. Its not a semantic difference, its the difference between the rule of law and the rule of people.

[Sebastian Doyle]

5. The Bush Crime Family have been selling out this country to enemies that they created for a CENTURY.

If we don't stop them this time, they will be back. It ain't just Poppy and Chimpy or even Jeb. It was Reagan. It was Nixon. It was the murders of JFK, RFK, and MLK. And probably John Lennon too. (take a look at the Chapman - Hinkley connection some time) It was even Ike Eisenhower, though he saw their agenda for what it was, and warned the American people. It was funding Hitler, and before that, it was gun running in World War I.

And yes, they played a big part in starting both the first Great Depression, AND the one we are on the edge of now.

Isn't one century of these fucking bastards enough?

[BeFree]

9. Indeed

What we need is a bush hunt. The trail is warm with the blood of a thousand innocents, so finding the trail is no problem. And when finally hunted down and surrounded, the quicker the justice the better.

[Uzybone]

7. I think they will

Congress and/or Obama will do this. I don't think it'll be done in 2009 though.

[agent007]

11. Obama Advisers: Torture Prosecutions Not Likely

WASHINGTON — Barack Obama's incoming administration is unlikely to bring criminal charges against government officials who authorized or engaged in harsh interrogations of suspected terrorists during the George W. Bush presidency. Obama, who has criticized the use of torture, is being urged by some constitutional scholars and human rights groups to investigate possible war crimes by the Bush administration.

Two Obama advisers said there's little _ if any _ chance that the incoming president's Justice Department will go after anyone involved in authorizing or carrying out interrogations that provoked worldwide outrage.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/18/obama-advisers-torture-pr_n_144540.html

[stillcool]

10. they must be..

if this country won't do it, somebody else will. The American people may not demand nor deserve justice, but over a million dead Iraqi's do.