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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 05:08 PM
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"Given the demographic trends, the GOP is unlikely to win any future presidential elections...."
WP: Trending Away From the GOP
By David S. Broder
Sunday, November 16, 2008; B07

The deeper one digs into the returns from this past election, the more portentous the results seem....

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Barack Obama and his fellow partisans face all kinds of serious tests, inheriting from George Bush and the Republicans two wars; a financial meltdown; and dysfunctional health-care, energy, transportation and infrastructure systems -- and a budget deficit that may top a trillion dollars. Nonetheless, there are signs in this year's returns of voter shifts that could herald a new political era -- and that certainly define the challenge facing the Republican Party.

Several of the most important are pointed up in memos I received this past week from Stan Greenberg, a Democratic pollster, and Steve Lombardo, a Republican consultant. They were done independently, but there were significant overlaps.

Greenberg's post-election survey for Democracy Corps found that the three most important reasons voters gave for supporting Obama concerned his promises to withdraw troops from Iraq, to cut middle-class taxes and to expand health insurance coverage. In arguing that the returns spell the emergence of a "center-left" majority, replacing the "center-right" majority of Bush and the Republicans, Greenberg and his colleagues note that Obama won the debate on tax policy with John McCain by 51 percent to 42 percent. If Democrats follow through by cutting taxes for most middle-class families, as Obama promised, then Republicans could lose one of their hard-rock advantages.

Lombardo, looking at the election from a Republican perspective, opens his memo with words of semi-comfort for his fellow partisans: "The Obama win was neither as big as some Democrats and members of the media have made it out to be nor as small as some of the GOP faithful would like to think."...The details of the returns are more ominous for Republicans.

Exit polls and actual returns, Lombardo notes, show Obama scoring in the suburbs and the metropolitan areas, especially among young and first-time voters, and among minorities. He won most of the votes from the college-educated, and he won a slight plurality among men -- reversing the pattern of Bush's two victories. In the end, Obama flipped nine states that had gone for Bush -- Nevada, Colorado and New Mexico in the West; Ohio, Indiana and Iowa in the Midwest; and Virginia, North Carolina and Florida in the Southeast. That left Republicans with a shrunken base in the South and the border states, where rural and Appalachian counties delivered for the GOP, and on the Plains, where population is falling compared with the rest of the nation.

That is not a formula for future success. As Lombardo concluded, "Given the demographic trends in the country, the GOP is unlikely to win any future presidential elections if it is losing 95 percent of the black vote and 67 percent of the Hispanic vote."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/14/AR2008111403058_pf.html
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 05:11 PM
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1. Is "Demographic trend" code for...
...Sarah Palin?

If so, I'd have to agree. No one is going to touch that party with that human
box of rocks positioning herself as the Queen of the Republicans.

(sorry, still in silly mode).
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Pyrzqxgl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 05:12 PM
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2. I remember a political science professor at San Diego State Univ. back in 1965 that said the same
thing and we all know how that turned out. Don't sell the GOP short. They have
a habit of falling into shit and coming out smelling like carnations!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 05:15 PM
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5. At the beginning of the piece, Broder goes back to that and issues cautions -- then goes on...
with the remainder I posted. I agree with you -- don't sell them short!
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 05:16 PM
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6. Yep. It all depends on whether Dems can improve peoples lives
The moment the voters start thinking they are in it for themselves (like the GOP under Bush) the tide will turn back towards the Republicans.

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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 06:07 PM
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12. essentially, that's what happened in 2000 ...
people had it good enough that they forgot what got them there ... and thought ... "Oh, I've had it with the dems getting impeached, the Repugs can't be all that bad, right?"
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 05:12 PM
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3. The GOP needs to stop being the party of angry white males.
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 05:14 PM
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4. They'll trot out sarah palin and invoke the name of....
ronald reagan for the next few years. That should finish them off for good and put an end to their ridiculous outdated party forever I hope.

I think the repub party will break off into many factions and render their party impotent for many years to come, maybe even forever.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 05:29 PM
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9. The Libertarian party will soak up some of them.
The rest will form a new "Rebel" party.
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 05:21 PM
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7. Terror Terror! Red Level Alert!
That might happen. And then that might happen.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 05:24 PM
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8. The GOP is sitting on a demographic time bomb
Young voters (AKA, the future) are solidly Democratic and they will only vote in larger numbers as they get older. Hispanics and Asians are growing, and are solidly Democratic. More voters are getting post-graduate degrees, and they vote heavily Democratic too.

If the Republic Party does not set itself right, they will lose 40-49 states in four years and be out of the White House for at least the next 12 years.
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 05:35 PM
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10. It will be a different Party by then
In 12 years Libertarianism will be due for a come back. It will probably come in from the right. Social Conservatism will continue to decline just as church attendance rates always do.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 05:36 PM
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11. Eh. I remember all sorts of Death of the Party stuff about the Dems in '04. nt
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