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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 12:43 AM
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Hey Cons, i think I finally get why your afraid.
Edited on Wed Nov-12-08 12:44 AM by booley
At first it just didnt' make sense. Disappointment ok. Anger or recriminations, all right.

But cons every where have been downright paranoid and even dumb in their conspiracy theories over what they think Obama will do

Obama's using executive orders to undo Bush's executive orders that he used to grab power is somehow Obama grabbing power?

Support for the progressive tax system we have had for almost a century is a call to seize the means of production fora communist revolution?

Thinking we need to repair our infrastructure makes Obama the same as Hitler?

Even claiming Obama is poised to cause a Caucasion Holocaust?

Not every thing Shrub was accused of had merit but even the worst of it had a limit , at least some kind of internal logic or corroboration. At least Shrub had a chance to effect public policy for a while. But cons don't seem to even care if what they say makes any sense or that Obama hasnt' even started the job.

Then i remembered during Clinton there were all those survivalist groups and right wing whackos saying Clinton was going to create a police state.
Yet Shrub got into power with a rubber stamp Congress, started side stepping laws he didn't like to have torture and spying on Americans and chipping away of one right after another (which is what a police state does).. And not one peep from those same people on the right.

And it occurred to me, it's not a totalitarian police state that bothers them. It's who they think will be in control of it. The right spent 8 fucking years ignoring or downplaying or even cheer leading whenever Shrub grabbed more power and now it's probably occurred to them all that now that power Shrub grabbed is going to belong to Obama.

Maybe you thought they would win this election. Maybe they were so busy "dissing the liberals" that they really didn't know what was going on. Maybe the right really thought being able to hold people without charge, torture them, spy on them, lock them up without trial was a good idea at the time.

Oops.

And after years of demonizing anyone that doesn't agree with them as Un American, Anti-American, Terrorists supporting Liberals ect ect, I think they began to believe thier own rhetoric. Sure the right were the good guys so they would only use to take away people's rights for good. But Liberals hate America and despite what Shrub claimed, his power grab did let him do to Americans what he did to "furners' (Just ask Padilla)

And now a "Black Marxist Liberal ect ect " has that power Shrub spent 8 long years grabbing with the right's tacit approval.

Not that we didn't warn them this could happen. we did keep asking them what if the next President wa s a Democrat. I Bet they feel pretty dumb right now.

So let me give this message to any conservative who may be reading this...

Relax.

We aren't going to form a police state. We want to get rid of it. Regulating guns does not mean taking away all guns. Using a legal power of the Presidency is not a power grab. No one outside the right ever claimed Obama was the second coming. Just because you guys were happy to sell off your rights for a colorful warning system doesn't' mean everybody is.

Not to say everyone on the right is gripped with this kind of paranoia. A few o f you aren't. (too few) Why not ask them to talk you down. (since a Liberal like me telling you there will be no Obama police state probably only reinforces in your mind that there will be an Obama police state.)

Not that this will sort all of your problems. You seem to be in deep denial over why you lost. But hopefully you will be a little less obnoxious.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 12:54 AM
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1. The cognitive dissonance is so painful that they MUST make up these fantasies
because if they accepted the truth, it would make their heads explode....
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 01:11 AM
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2. This is what happens when you weight facts at about 7-10 percent
and gut at 90+.

I've have a high level of respect for gut but for crying out loud, you can't let it pass 50% unless you're at least a Jedi.
Come on folks of the Reich give you're lying eyes and ears a chance to tell their side of the story.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 01:21 AM
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3. they wouldn't believe me if I tried to reassure them.
Edited on Wed Nov-12-08 01:23 AM by ginnyinWI
Well, maybe my mom would listen, but not my dad.

Although I'm 56 and have a Bachelor's degree, to him I'm still a little deluded child who doesn't know anything and have been brainwashed by the liberal media and liberal arts into becoming a Democrat, while HE knows the real truth--which is that Obama is the next Hitler and is going to destroy the country. He would like to move to Canada, he says, because this country is doomed! How do you talk to ignorance like that? The only sources he will believe is right wing radio and TV and anonymous emails! It's as if they want to be afraid.

I give up. Here I'm happier than I've been since before the chimp took the White House away from Al Gore, and they are now "shuddering"--their word--at the prospect of the next administration. They are truly afraid.

Here's what is really wrong: the right is continuing to divide, divide divide us into good guys and bad guys, the very thing Obama wants to do away with. They know that when we are no longer divided, we have no more use for their hateful tactics and power plays. They know that they will go down without that loyal following of fearful listeners. Once united, nobody will be feeling left out.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 01:24 AM
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4. religion is a BIG chunk of why
They FEAR Obama.Fucking Religion.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 01:25 AM
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5. but why?
How is Obama going to take away their religion? Or do they think he's the anti Christ or something?
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 01:28 AM
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6. guns
Just because some of us think machine guns and other automatic weapons seem odd for hunting to some of us, we really don't want to take away your hunting weapons or your trap and skeet shotguns. Even pistols are kind of ok, except for those 18 shot automatics. Why do you need that stuff to kill a rabbit of a pheasant for crying out loud? However don't give me that old crap that guns don't kill people, they certainly do and more often then you imagine. Anyplace that has 8 year olds training with live weapons, soon find that out, people kill people. and guns shoot people.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 01:36 AM
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7. This is one I wish I could recommend more than once.
The RW has been conditioned to fear everything that they are told to fear.

It is irrational and purposely spoon fed to them.They have trusted too long in the Republican nonexistent shield of protection,while their rights and bodies and money and religion has been stolen and used to profit the huber wealthy and powerful. They have been scared and left to fend for themselves. They were told that the most evil man they could imagine would now be in charge and they are given no hope of security.

McCain has done so much harm to this country. He has no idea what he and Palin have done to the faithful. They have been lied to and they are left in disbelief and fear.

It will be so hard to heal this cruel use of Americans and it is a shame that Rush FOx and the Republicans will continue to steal facts from these truly good people.

I hope that they watch what does and doesn't happen and stop believing what they are being told by paid Republican operatives.
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 03:00 AM
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8. my only regret
I never seem able to catch my grammar errors until after the time limit has expired.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 03:20 AM
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9. We're going to persecute them by not allowing them to outlaw abortion & contraception.
Obama SCOTUS appointments threaten to delay their plans to run everyone's life and institute a Christian Theocracy.

This is unacceptable oppression, man.

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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 12:19 AM
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10. Yes clearly we want to take away their right
.. to take away the rights of others.

They are so oppressed they can't oppress others anymore.
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