Did you see these polls MSNBC is pushing today? Ridiculous!

[jenmito]

They're showing an obscure poll that Chuck Todd never even heard of, from Sept. 15-Oct. 17th, claiming it's new and that it's "now" TIED in CO and NM, and Obama's up only 4% in NV. AND the McCain campaign is claiming they're in a "dead heat" in IOWA, too. (I have a sneaky suspicion they're going to try to steal Iowa since they've been there so many times with NO changing poll numbers). In a WAY I'm happy, since it'll make us work even harder, but I hate the bias of the "liberal" MSM. Especially when you add in the fact that they KEEP showing every minute of Palin's and McCain's speeches, but totally ignore Biden's and cut away from Obama's. :eyes:

[ErinBerin84]

1. oh goody...McCain's pollster is coming up again next

This should be good for some giggles.

[jenmito]

5. Yeah-they're going to cite this poll by saying, "a poll that just came out shows we're tied

in NM and CO!" Another surrogate already DID. :eyes:

[bdamomma]

2. remember the media is corporate owned.

and of course they are pushing mccain and palin. they are so FOS.

[OmahaBlueDog]

3. If they just say "Obama's going to win in a landslide", it'd kill the ratings

[ourbluenation]

6. word.

[SoonerPride]

8. Maybe.

They could say "you must turn in to witness history" and "we've never ever seen anything like this."

"Once in a lifetime seismic event in the land."

"Must see TV!"

I'd tune in to watch that.

Wouldn't you?

[OmahaBlueDog]

26. Nope. It's like watching the Sooners play Baylor

The score might set a new record, but the game's gonna be a yawner.

Edited: I originally said "USC play Washington State"

[TheDonkey]

4. MSM is in pure desperation mode now. Trying to milk the ratings in the final 4 days

trying desperately to make sure people tune in over the weekend to hear them chatter about this "horse race"

[jenmito]

7. That must be it.

I hate these people.

[InternalDialogue]

9. This reminds me of the teases that local news stations do to rivet their viewers

They keep you glued to the set, and when they finally reveal what they were teasing about all night, it's a big disappointment.

But they never apologize -- they're only in it for the ratings, so whatever they can do to keep viewers in front of the tube, they do it.

[Stagecoach]

10. Keep this in mind

These media outlets, whether it's MSNBC/NBC, CBS, CNN, ABC, etc., they've spent a lot of money on gizmos and toys and exit polls for people like Chuck Todd, Jeff Greenfield, John King, etc. to use on Tuesday (Election Night) and they need to re-coup that money through ad revenue on Tuesday night. And the way they hook an advertiser in is by promising them certain ratings throughout the broadcast, and any shortfall will be made up with free commercials in the future. Which, in turn, takes away commercial time that could otherwise have been sold with monetary value attached.

The only way they're going to draw ratings for their commercials to pay for their election toys is to get the narrative going that the race is going to be close. That's why, don't be surprised on election night we're not seeing any media outlets declaring a president until well into the evening. It's against their own interests to call it early.

[jenmito]

23. True...

but with all their talk about "watching the results of VA at 7pm" to get an idea of how the race will go, that if Obama wins VA it should be very difficult for McCain to win, you'd think it could be an EARLY night.

[jenmito]

11. Bill McCinturff (McCain's pollster) is on now spinning away!

He thinks the "older, rural white" voters will come out in numbers big enough to give him the win.

[ErinBerin84]

14. I was tempted to watch it, but I just couldn't bring myself.

Is Chuck challenging him at all?

[jenmito]

16. Yeah-he challenged the number of Repubs. vs. Dems. that the guy claimed will vote

this time. The guy said there's NO WAY there are 15% more Dems. than Repubs. voting. :rofl:

[snooper2]

18. So, the same old white folks who are "reliable voters"

we here about in every election are now going to come out en masse? :rofl:

Are they cloning them or something :rofl:

[jenmito]

20. Yup...

enough to counter the high number of Black voters and young voters.

[sniffa]

37. Assuming they can afford the gas to get to the polls

[Cush]

12. "if you wanted to vote for Obama, you would have done so by now"

[jenmito]

17. Yeah-that was funny.

[iceman66]

13. I'm suspicious they may try to steal Iowa too

McCain has been paying an unusual amount of attention to the state.

[jenmito]

19. Yeah. The media keeps saying even REPUBS. are shaking their heads wondering why

he's spending so much time in Iowa.

[KayLaw]

15. Corporate media.

I think they're worried Obama will make them pay their taxes, play fair, and will stand between them and what they truly desire: cheap labor.

[Generator]

21. Well it still worries me

they want to steal reality-and the election-manipulating PERCEPTION that things are tightening now is the way to do it. Who cares what the truth is-it's the reality they choose.

[jenmito]

24. Same here. n/t

[butterfly77]

22. Exactly..

and all during the weekend we will hear over and over again that McCain is tied with Obama...

[jenmito]

25. McCain's surrogates are ALREADY claiming the race is tied!

NO real polls back them up.

[Overseas]

27. Chuckie better get a HUGE bonus

because he sure is stretching every angle of news to pump up the Republican cause.

[jenmito]

32. At least he called Scarborough out when he brought it up in the first place saying he never HEARD

of that poll and wouldn't put any stock in it.

[Overseas]

35. Did he? Glad to hear it. Sorry I jumped in there on Chuck.

I've been saddened by his waffling. It has seemed like he was trying too hard to pump up Republican chances lately.

They say he's personally a Democrat, and I think MSNBC may "play the ref" a bit with their commentators. Lean on the Dems to prove their bias isn't showing one iota. They bend over backward and end up pretending the Republicans make sense, when they often don't.

So whoops on me this time.
Didn't see this one myself.

[jenmito]

36. Yup, he did...

He said it a FEW times. I think Chuck is fair.

[FVZA_Colonel]

28. That thing is 14 days out of date.

There is no way it can be accurate.

[DCBob]

29. It is unbelievable they using those stale polls. They must realize there are more recent polls.

It would appear they are simply trying to push McCain and the horserace. Disgusting.

[jenmito]

30. Yup-and they called it "new."

Desperation is setting in.

[janx]

31. NM has been dark blue for over a month! n/t

[jenmito]

34. This poll probably sampled all Evangelicals. n/t

[Virginia Dare]

33. The repubs are reduced to "polls r us" for good news..

I hope they all believe in them, so they're dreams are crushed even further.

[FUCK_BUSH]

38. Ya i did. Joe is POS. This guy is a sleazy Bastard with no brain.

[jenmito]

39. He also has tiny eyes and no lips. n/t