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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:30 AM
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David Brooks: McCain's Collapse "Unspeakably Sad"
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David Brooks: McCain's Collapse "Unspeakably Sad"
By M.J. Rosenberg - October 26, 2008, 9:13AM



In today's agonies, David Brooks trembles over the transformation of the once great, John McCain. You know, all the usual blather about the great leader he once was and his tragic decline these last few weeks or months.

It's truly unbearable stuff especially to those among us (pretty much all serious liberals and conservatives) who always thought McCain is a big zero, a product of ridiculous hype by his buddies in the media.

But the kicker in this Brooks weeper is the last couple of sentences.

"In government, he has almost always had an instinct for the right cause. He has become an experienced legislative craftsman. He is stalwart against the country's foes and cooperative with its friends. But he never escaped the straightjacket of a party that is ailing and a conservatism that is behind the times. And that's what makes the final weeks of this campaign so unspeakably sad."

My God! "Unspeakably sad." Doesn't he read the papers or watch television? Doesn't he surf the web? Does he not know people to whom unspeakably sad things have happened. I'll give just one example. Actually 4000. And that is just in the war Brooks clamored for.

But I'm sure everyone knows people who have experienced the "unspeakably sad." Or have themselves.

Although Jimmy the Plumber, Carl the Car Repairman, Gary the Garbageman and Madge the Manicurist may not get it, its not liberals or socialists they should despise, it's guys like Brooks. Rich, white privileged suburbanites who live in a world where the decline of some two-bit politician qualifies as "unspeakably sad."
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:35 AM
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1. Brooks' public comments of late sound like a funeral euology for the GOP,
which is handy, since it is a dying Party.

At least in its present form.

Brooks is not my favorite columnist but on the other hand I'd make a distinction between him and Kristol. I think Brooks has considerable talent as a writer and observer and regret that it is in the service of the Republican cause.

Mark Shields handles Brooks awfully well on Jim Lehrer's news cast.

As for McCain, he had the demographic in 2000 but was submarined by dirty tricks in South Carolina. He still went on to win several more primaries but could not sustain the effort toward a nomination win.

For whatever virtues may have been perceived about McCain in 2000 there is the strong impression that they are gone by now. Real gone.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:37 AM
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2. Not sad. Every election, someone's gotta lose. We withstood Gore losing by a few votes in Florida,
We watched Kerry get 'swift boated". Dry your tears.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:44 AM
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3. Thank you. This is what I have been saying all along: McCain's been a prick since he was a
Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 11:45 AM by No Elephants
toddler, by his own account. Or since high school, when he got arrested for cursing out a girl to a fare thee well. Or since he finished 896/900 in Annapolis. Or since he crashed three planes in the Navy. Or since he made propaganda films for the North Vietnamese. Or since he "dated" for the last five years of his marriage, then left his wife for Cindy. Or since his horrendous voting record on vets' issues, MLK Day, etc. Or, or or.

You get the picture. An ill-tempered, selfish screw up prick all along.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:37 PM
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15. I'll admit that if he'd been the R candidate in 2000 and had won
I'd have been bummed that it wasn't Gore, but I'd have thought he'd be an okay President and better than many other Republicans.

I was fooled and I suspect I'm not alone. He just did a better job of hiding his nastiness until this campaign.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:49 AM
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4. If it's so unspeakably sad..

..why is he talking about it?


:shrug:
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:56 AM
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8. Please don't bring brains to a discussion of the GOP.....n/m
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:51 AM
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5. It's a tragic joke all right.
A joke mccain played on himself 'cause he really didn't have it in him.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:54 AM
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6. Brooks realizes that mclame put the nails in the conservapig coffin
the coffin that dumbya built.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:55 AM
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7. I can't feel sorry for the guy.
He's scum, and he's made his choice. McCain being depicted as an honorable man was nothing more than a myth. He's the most vile politician (other than Cheney) I've ever witnessed in my lifetime.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:57 AM
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9. We have 9 days to make this a real tragedy - for the republicans.
Ask yourself what you can do NOW - TODAY to make sure this election is an overwhelming Democratic victory.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:01 PM
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10. I guess McCain lacks free will
Otherwise he'd have done some things differently, based on his "instincts".
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:24 PM
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11. Sad?
McCain needed to do two simple things:

1. Pick a real VP, like Snowe or Hutchison.
2. Run a respectful campaign focused on security and economy.

It's not rocket surgery.
It's hard to believe that nitwits like Davis, Salter, Schmidt and Schoeneman were paid millions to come up with a campaign centered on an Alaskan village leader and a fake plumber.

There's nothing sad about this at all.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:30 PM
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12. "McCain shares the progressive conservative instinct."
:rofl:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:30 PM
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13. "McCain shares the progressive conservative instinct."
:rofl:
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road2000 Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:32 PM
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14. Thanks for the summary,
so I don't have to read it. Reading Brooks is an agony.

"Unspeakably sad" applies to Obama's grandmother's situation. There's nothing sad about McNasty.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:39 PM
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16. David Brooks jumped the shark long ago...
He has been a Republican water boy for the last couple of years. I expect to see him over at Faux News any day.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:40 PM
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17. It is not at all sad to me to see HATE GO UNREWARDED.
I am glad to see a major formerly respected senator lose major polling points by spewing LIES about his opponent.

I am encouraged that people were so turned off by McHate and his team's racist and alarmist smearing campaign.

That has been the bright light in this campaign season for me-- that the majority of people were turned off by the blatant racist and alarmist tactics, devolving into the "who is a real American?" level of recent days.

Hope the distaste extends to booting LOTS of Republicans right out of office. Good riddance to those ethically challenged guys for whom the Ends Justify the Means. And for whom spreading the wealth UP TO THE RICH is just fine, but down to the middle class and poor is somehow socialist.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:00 PM
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18. This is confirmation that David Brooks have been delusional for a long time..
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:14 PM
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19. So why is Brooks still speaking?
More importantly, why is he still being paid to speak?
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VoodooGuru Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:22 PM
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20. "a conservatism that is behind the times."
That's quite telling.
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:29 PM
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21. In government, he
has almost always had an instinct for the right cause." What is unspeakably sad is that, with some notable exception, McCain was on the wrong side. David Brooks is a twit.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:39 PM
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22. McCain is not entitled to the Presidency
He has to earn it. McCain has lived a life of luxury, power, respect, and prestige, where every door has been open to him. How can anyone feel sorry for him, just because his latest heart's desire is beyond his reach?
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pschneider Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:41 PM
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23. McCain-Palin deserve no sympathy from anyone with half a brain
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 02:42 PM
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24. I appreciate Brook's voice and his self-assessment of the Republican Party.
Within the past two weeks, Brooks has also said that Sarah Palin represents a "cancer" in the Republican Party.

I hope he keeps speaking up and leveling criticisms against his own party. These days, he is far from alone in his sentiments.

GOBAMA.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 03:09 PM
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25. Do these folks ever really spell out a "conservatism" that is with it?
Lots of hand-wringing about what the GOP has become, but no prescription for the way out. They're a total mess.
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