Flashback: Lieberman said that ‘our enemies will test the new President.’

[ProSense]

Flashback: Lieberman said that ‘our enemies will test the new President.’

Today, John McCain’s campaign is attempting to make an issue out of Joe Biden’s prediction that an international crisis will “test the mettle” of the next president. On a campaign press call yesterday, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani attacked Biden’s statement, insisting that “it is not uniformly the case that the mettle of American presidents is tested…Senator McCain would not present that same risk that Joe Biden seems to be worried about.” Sen. Joe Lieberman, one of John McCain’s closest confidantes, apparently disagrees. Appearing on Face the Nation back in June, Lieberman predicted that “our enemies will test the new president early.” Watch it:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/21/lieberman-test/">Lieberman Suggests There Will Be Terror Attack In 2009

The Wonk Room argues that the issue is not whether the president is tested, but how he responds.

It's only wrong when Dems say it. Of course, Lieberman made his point via a despicable assertion.

More RW's faux outrage.

Also, Giuliani criticizing Biden? WTF?

[Pharaoh]

1. What does Joe Know?

And when did he Know it?

[Vincardog]

2. And McShame fronts like he is too tough to have his mettle tested. But I have to admit

I do not want McShouts at clouds to have the launch codes any more than I want
(p)Resident Chokes on pretzels to.

[jillan]

3. Whoa - I'm sending this around.

Great find.

[deadparrot]

4. I still don't get what's so fucking controversial about Biden's remark.

There's a lot of bad shit going on in the world and in America. It ain't gonna be easy to clean it up, no matter who's in charge.

[jenmito]

7. Biden also said something about how Obama will need help with figuring out

what to do. Something like that.

[deadparrot]

9. Still...do people believe the president is some sort of superhuman being

with the ability to be an expert on every imaginable subject? While I expect him or her to be extremely intelligent, I don't expect the president to know everything about everything. I expect him or her to seek and listen to the opinions and advice of the most knowledgeable people on a given topic, then to make an educated, informed choice based on that information.

Of COURSE he needs help. If he could do it alone, there'd be no reason for any other government employees.

[jenmito]

11. I agree, but McPalin is using his words to spin it the way they want to...

of course. Biden was just trying to make the point that he, as VP, would be ABLE to help unlike Palin who would be totally incapable to help in any way.

[deadparrot]

15. I know I'm preaching to the choir...

I just find it silly. If this is the only stuff they can grasp onto, they're quite desperate.

[jenmito]

22. I agree...

they ARE desperate.

[1corona4u]

13. No, he said that Obama would need our support...

we need to find the quote...the whole one. Funny, I can't find the entire comment anywhere....they all cut it off.

[jenmito]

21. I think he said Obama would need HELP...

but yes, we should find the quote.

[1corona4u]

23. Check out the link in my response, and the whole thread...it is there.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7546664&mesg_id=7546764

[babylonsister]

12. Nothing is controversial imo; it's the rethugs stirring it up because

they got nothing. GOP dirty nasty politics at play.

[deadparrot]

16. I don't know, maybe it got play this morning,

but I've had MSNBC on in the background for the last couple hours and haven't heard anything. :shrug:

[ProSense]

24. Yup, they're the masters of it. n/t

[WatchWhatISay]

5. The problem is, he was also very clear that he believed McCain is

ready to handle such an attack (he also said Clinton would have been).

According to what I heard on Morning Joe, Biden left lots of room for doubt.

[ProSense]

10. Morning Joe?

Joe also believes Jeb Bush is the future of the Republican Party.

The Delaware senator spoke at two Seattle fundraises Sunday night, expected to bring in $1 million for the campaign. Biden told the supporters that when Obama will need them to stand with the administration on the difficult calls — not financially, but by using their influence within their communities to convince others that the right decisions are being made.

"I promise you, you all are going to be sitting here a year from now going, 'Oh my God, why are they there in the polls, why is the polling so down, why is this thing so tough?' We're going have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years," said Biden. "I'm asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you're going to have to reinforce us."

Telling the crowd to "gird their loins" for a bumpy beginning to the next presidential term, Biden said it wouldn't be initially apparent that the correct decisions are being made because "they're not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they're popular, they're probably not sound."

link

Context is alway important.

[FLyellowdog]

6. Think anyone will think of asking McShame what he thinks about what Lizardman was thinking?

:shrug:

[babylonsister]

17. Good point; his surrogate made the same point for McBush and

no one pitched a bitch about it. IOCIYAR.

[Life Long Dem]

8. McSame is two-faced.

Wasn't he just saying "and there will be wars my friend"?

[iceman66]

14. What no one is saying here

is that our enemies would absolutely have a field day with President Palin!

We need to turn this argument around - because it underscores just how much McCain put this country at risk when he picked that nitwit to be his running mate.

What Obama lacks in experience, he more than makes up for in judgment, and he has proven this again and again.

[Window]

18. K/R, bookmarked and sent far and wide. Thanks, great find.

[Window]

19. Please send to Keith, Rachel and Joey the Scar.

[Joe Chi Minh]

20. Lieberman is either a crook or a half-wit or both. In Noam Chomsky's latest book,

"What We say Goes", he points out that the growth of terrorism and instability around the globe has actually been a delibrate policy of the US under this administration, and the idea that the country would be more secure from terrorist threats under Republicans is beyond laughable. He sees an increasing danger of terrorist use of a nuclear weapon - and cites his authorities - in the fairly near future.

He cites the impossible difficulties they put in the way of national leaders of countries such as Afghanistan, Iran, North Korea, Palestine, who were all willing to enter agreements the US (or, in the case of the Palestinians, Israel) had proposed. Maybe more that I've forgotten. But the maleficent influence of the US across the globe seems almost as endless as its putative "rationale" is incomprehensible.