I've got news for you David Frum

[GrizzlyMan]

YOu piece of dog shit. It was YOUR KIND that lowered the level of political discourse in this country with a coordinated embrace of right wing hate mongers like Rush Limbaugh.

It was YOUR KIND that fed the fires of dangerous nationalism in the aftermath of 9/11.

It was YOUR KIND that used fear to manage public opinion in the wake of 9/11.

It was YOUR KIND who lied about the WMD in Iraq and LIED this country into a costly war.

It is YOUR KIND who have run this country straight down the shit hole.

So please, save your fucking lecture on the level of discourse. You're side is losing. Your PNAC agenda is on the ropes. Now you want a timeout.

If it was up to me, when this election was over YOU and YOUR KIND would be frog marched to the nearest gulag where you would rot for the rest of your natural life on charges of USURPING democracy and TREASON.

[RoccoR5955]

1. I couldn't agree more... ALL of McBushco, Inc.

Needs to be frog marched and put away for treason.

[GrizzlyMan]

4. Personally, I think a few of them should be brought before a firing squad

But fortunately for them, most people are more kind hearted than I.

[Raster]

11. Not I. Let me shine up the ammo. I hate what the neoCON, conservative rethuglicans have done

to this country. And as most of the posters in this thread have echoed, now that the shoe is on the other foot, the mouthpieces like Frum can't wait to do their Mother Superior routine. Sorry, not buying it. It is time to pay the fiddler, too fucking bad you don't like the tune. You bastards are the one that hired him.

[Jackpine Radical]

38. Shooting them with shiny ammo is as much of a waste

as hanging them with a new rope.*


* This comment made for dramatic effect. I oppose the death penalty even when it is well deserved.

[dchill]

2. I hope David Frum reads DU!

Of course, if he did, he might have half a brain.

[jhrobbins]

36. If not, I hope someone sends this to him-he was an arrogant a-hole

to Rachel last night.

[eleny]

3. Making his equivalency argument was laughable

And he expected to get away with it.

When Rachel's program started this evening I was delighted almost to tears how great it is to have the two hour block of liberal thinking 5 nights a week. After this Frum interview I might even make the case for precognition. This was her very best interview to date.

Pie anyone!

[GrizzlyMan]

5. She stood her ground and went on the offensive

She impresses me more each night.

[rcsl1998]

34. Frum Tried Attacking Because Rachel et al Is Winning The Day

The rude little CON-man expexted Rachel to wimper off or lose it - Instead, she held her ground (and dare I say, gained more 'territory') as she exposed him for the sniveling wimp that he is... GO RACHEL!!!

[Zambero]

53. Maddow cleaned Frum's clock

He gave her an opening and she quickly obliged. Frum's self-appointed "Trojan Horse" left as a pile of charred rubble.

[kckc]

6. Amen brother!

I get so sick and tired of people like Frum or Peggy Noonan telling us that the discourse needs to be elevated. Well how freakin conveeenient for you to say that, now that you are getting your asses handed to you on a daily basis. Tell you what, asswipes, you go first. Yeah, I thought so. :mad:

[Raster]

7. And may I saw Rachael handled herself beautifully.

She owned his ass from the time he first opened his mouth. "Oh woe is us. You have taken the political discourse to new lows." What an asshat. There is no doubt in any thinking person's mind who owns the low ground on political discouse in this country. No fucking doubt.

[thunder rising]

8. Well said!

[Lucy Goosey]

9. What a raging ass!

Dave, you are not good enough to lick Rachel's shoes clean. srsly.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

10. Kick & Fucking Recommended!!!

[Gregorian]

12. It's ok. Help is on the way.

The level of discourse is returning. With or without the Fairness Doctrine, we will once again value common sense, intelligence, decency, honor.

He needs help. And we aren't going to stoop any longer.

[HughMoran]

13. He was a whiny little simp - I was laughing at him

He was trying to talk over Rachel and was generally being a dick head. He scored no points.

[CADEMOCRAT7]

14. Exactly !

[ClayZ]

15. Absolutely right on! K and R

[zulchzulu]

16. Frum is Canadian. WTF is he bitching about the US Presidential race anyway?

Another fuckup I can't to find out is taking a dirtnap.

[dogindia]

17. k/r

[SOS]

18. Exactly right

His Republicans are the ones who dragged politics into the sewer.
The party of Swiftboats and Purple Heart band-aids suddenly wants a serious conversation?
The party of Fox News now wants a Lincoln-Douglas debate on Rachel's show?
Because they may soon lose every ounce of their political power?
Because history will judge them as abject failures in everything they ever touched?

F*ck 'em.

[90-percent]

19. Frum and prosecution of his kind

Rachel asked Senator Boxer an explicit question about prosecution for WAR CRIMES of this current administration and Boxer said, "yeah, that's worthy, but we got to work on priorities that are best for the country."

Holding these traitors to account in a court of law for their crimes is the thing this country needs the most.

If you keep letting these bastards off with the governmental equivilent of a golden parachute - a perpetually good income, then that insures their dirty treasonous deeds will be repeated and enhanced even further for the next reemergence of neocon-facism-totalitarian time.

-90% Jimmy

[CampDem]

25. I bet that the exchange with Boxer is what really set him off

He was just seething and unable to come up with a logical way to bring this up so he went with the bogus "elevate the discourse" crap. They are scared to death and lashing out.

[MadMaddie]

29. Yes, you are exactly right.

History tells us so - If we would have prosecuted all of the main culprits from Watergate we would not have had an Iraq war, I am convinced of it.

History dictates that we prosecute all involved and let the Hague prosecute them for crimes against humanity. Frum is on that list...

[Usrename]

20. Under the Nuremburg Principles, he should be tried.

He has culpability in the war crimes conspiracy.

[Arugula Latte]

21. TESTIFY Brother GrizzlyMan!

:bounce:

[renate]

22. k &r & r & r & r

What an enormous loser of a turd he is.

[Binka]

23. Petulant Little Bastard

Pretending to be all the shit, I wanted to smack the crap out of him. Fucking nasty Nazi. Rachel handled him, got his goat all tied up in knots. Little shit was looking for his Mommy at the end. What a piece of crap he is.

[Chrisnreno]

24. Enthusiastic K&R! The guy is a pig, and his little hissy fit on

Rachel Maddow's show last night was disgusting. How dare he lecture us on what he thinks proper or respectful political discourse in this country should be. He and his party, with their "permanent campaign" approach to governance, are the one's responsible for the divisive political atmosphere that we have to put up with today. They also happened to drive our country into a ditch, and we're mad as hell. Are we as citizens not allowed to express our righteous outrage over the disastrous 8 years of the Bush (mis)administration, or the despicable smear campaign that John McCain is currently running. Fuck off Frum, you arrogant piece of crap!

[Greyskye]

26. All I could think during the entire interview, was that...

...underneath it all, what he was really saying was: Now that the Republicans are in the minority, the Democrats must clean up the tone and give us a place at the table.

Wow, what an epiphany! Isn't it freaking amazing that you didn't understand that until your political party has dirt being sprinkled on its casket?

Asshole.

[BrklynLiberal]

27. He reminds me of...

[MadMaddie]

28. Right on GrizzlyMan !

The bastard was disgusting! Rachel handed him his ass yesterday!

K & R

[Carolina]

30. actually it was his kind that

lowered the level of political discourse the minute Clinton beat George HW! It all started way before 9/11. Remember in the awful 1994 elections that swept repukes back in power, the Rs gave much of the credit to Limpballs!

[90-percent]

31. Also

He was feigning insult over Rachel's spot on characterization of Paul Wolfowitz as criminally incompetent, yet still getting yet another well paying job in this administration.

Who else on earth besides a PNAC neocon would ever see any worth in anything Wolfowitz has to offer?

The best way Wolfowitz could serve his country is 20 years behind bars in a maximum security federal prison!

-90% Jimmy

[Hissyspit]

32. He knows all that.

He's just another hypocrite right-winger playing their game.

[frogmarch]

33. K&R Well said!

Especially the last paragraph. :thumbsup:

[grannylib]

35. Exactly. I'm all for hard labor...no country club prisons for these

fuckers, most of whom have never DONE an honest day's work in their sorry-assed little lives.

[MsLeopard]

37. Exactly

To the courts and then the Hague! K&R

[Essene]

39. march him up to the gulag, huh? ohhh, hush

how easily we emulate those who abuse us...

[fudge stripe cookays]

47. And how easily...

for you to ALWAYS play Devil's advocate.

Do you ever post anything that isn't complete crap?

[annabanana]

40. Republicans ALWAYS call for "decorum" and "bipartisanship" when they're

LOSING!

When they're in the driver's seat? . . .not so much.

[RobertoRoberti]

41. All of us should read

this by Digby, on David Frum:

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/to-incoherent-for-republican-party-by.html

[PassingFair]

48. Welcome to DU, Roberto!

Thanks for the link.

:hi:

[kid a]

42. and, and, and, and he had the fucking gall to quote GANDHI!!! fuck you

[think4yourself]

43. I can't decide

If Rachel should have him back on to continue kicking his pompous, pasty ass, or, now that she's kicked HIS ass, move on to the next whining Repug. Either way, I'll be THERE!!

[CLANG]

44. Are you upset or something?

[nugzie]

45. hellz yeah

nobody messes with my rachel...

[namvet73]

46. David FRUM Hell, David TO Hell!

[bobd0]

49. I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you on one point

You called Frum a "piece of dog shit". My dogs were very upset when I told them. Dog shit has done nothing to deserve such vile and, frankly, slanderous charges.

[Mira]

50. Serving it up - a visual for your excellent and accurate post

[Buzz Clik]

51. David Frum would like to have a word with you about your tone.

[Historic NY]

52. What a waste of oxygen....

I'm glad she called him out.

[TheZug]

54. I agree.

[DirtyDawg]

55. I so wish Rachel had....

...said to this prick, in response to his call for more serious discussion and less sarcasm and ridicule, 'Well David, frankly I have to use sarcasm and ridicule, because if I were to resort to a truly 'serious' discussion on these issues, I'd probably end up busting you up-side the head with a baseball bat...sorta like what I'm concerned about from you're side of the argument...you condescending ass!'

[LaydeeBug]

56. Is this the Frum of Morgan Pillsbury fame?

what an asshole. Good thing I missed whatever he said. :woohoo:

[winston61]

57. Piss on Frum- he and the GOP have got nothing and they

know it. Hannity and Limbaugh are throwing everything against the wall and praying that something will stick. Talk about sarcasm and vitriol. None of these asshats can admit that just maybe a majority of Americans are sick to fucking death of 'conservatism' and 'Reaganism'. To answer Hannity's question 'What would Reagan do? The answer is nothing, he's dead and so is his 'rising tide lifts all boats' bullshit.

[LibGranny]

58. Plus, Rachel has her Ph.D.

He said "her fans call her Dr. Rachel"

[14thColony]

59. They raised the black flag, not us

No quarter asked, no quarter given.

Press the attack and let this be the end of this incarnation of the Republican Party. With any luck the real, moderate, pre-1972 Republicans will be able to seize power in their party again.

[janet118]

60. Serious level of discourse?

Now he notices?

Where has Frum been?

Funny, that he didn't mention any of this while he was making his bones discussing the Clinton impeachment. I guess he could just ignore it then. Has he announced any of his disgust with the lack of serious discussion on FoxNews or right wing talk radio. Has he spoken to the Christian right about the morality of hate talk? I don't think so.

I guess he can ignore the skunk fest until it stinks up his candidate.

What a hypocrite!

[AlbertCat]

61. I went back and watched it again

You can do that here....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27170845#27171025


Well, I didn't get all the way through this time but if you listen carefully, Frum makes no sense whatsoever. It is truly pitiful, and the look on Rachel's face is "WTF is he talking about? OK.... you brought it up." It's really quite funny. No one, not the camera man or the Gopher fetching coffee at MSNBC is falling for Frum and you can tell. Rachel politely, but with real curiosity and force wants to know if Frum is... well...serious. She gives examples "Someone yelling "Bomb Obama" or Kill him" and then "Are you saying these are equivalent to my sarcasm?" IOW..."Are you fucking serious?????" ....only with decorum and grace.

I love it. I wish I could do that!

Frum talks about "Your (Rachel's) little responsibility"....then the condescension falls flat because everyone moves on with it unnoticed....and besides, everyone likes Rachel and no one likes Frum. He hadn't a chance... unless he got real and talked about the reality of what was supposed to be the subject of the interview.

P.S. You can see Olbermann report the aftermath and Frum lying about it here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#27188607

[PatSeg]

62. What gets me

is Frum went out of his way to attack Rachel. Its not like they encountered one another on a talk show - he went on HER show to be rude. It was a premeditated, preemptive strike. Rachel was so cool and collected, though you could tell she was surprised at his inappropriate tone.

[orleans]

63. frum has his panties in a twist ever since his dick went limp and stayed that way.

(sorry--just had to say it. go ahead and delete if necessary)