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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:15 AM
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McCain considers conceding election
Source: Associated Content

In highly secret discussions John McCain is seeking feedback on the bold, historically unique idea of conceding the presidential election BEFORE Election Day!

Here are the main discussion points framing the conversations with his closest, long-time supporters, including his wife, but not current campaign staff.

First is the argument that taking this move would boldly prove McCain's goal of always putting the nation first. This is the way for him to achieve a lasting legacy as a true American patriot. Why keep fighting and giving the media the horse race story when shortly it will be crystal clear to everyone that Barack Obama has taken an irreversible advantage and will surely win the necessary Electoral College votes?

Second, the money advantage of Obama simply puts him at an unbeatable advantage, and making his campaign go very, very negative against Obama personally is really making his stomach turn nasty. He admits he and his advisors have no solid new things to say about the economy meltdown that can advance his campaign...

Read more: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1090790/mccain_considering_conceding_election.html?cat=9



We can only hope...
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:16 AM
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1. Is this a joke?
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:18 AM
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8. Almost certainly a joke.
McCain will drag everyone through this until the bitter end.
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:53 AM
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31. What's the difference?
He has officially pulled out of Michigan. He might as well be out of Pennsylvania and Minnesota. If he pulls out (officially or practically) of any other states, that is tantamount to conceding.

Obviously this article is fictional. No way McCain ever officially concedes before election day. But he does have an opportunity to reclaim a modicum of dignity for his legacy by taking the high road the final three weeks. That will be his legacy. That will answer for once and for all what kind of man this one is.

Unfortunately for his legacy, I think we all know the answer to that one.
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chicagoexpat Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:23 PM
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37. Is ur ? a joke?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:16 AM
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2. ....
:wow:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:17 AM
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3. That's NEVER going to happen! His ego is WAY WAY to big for
anything like that!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:17 AM
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4. OK the source... I am not sure is a valid one
that said if this is for real... it would ensure his place in US history as an American hero

But somehow I doubt it
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:17 AM
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5. "Associated Content"--is that like Associated Press, except without the actual news or facts?
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:22 AM
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12. Good question.
:rofl:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:23 AM
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17. Well, the word "Associated" lends it automatic journalistic credibility, apparently!
:rofl:
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joop Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:01 PM
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32. anyone can write for AC - you get a teeny tiny bit of $$
bleah. As real as the Easter Bunny.
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joop Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:02 PM
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:18 AM
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6. Hope? I would hope he chokes and dies if he pulls that crap.
If you thought for one freaking second you would realize there is no way in Hell you want a precedent like that on the books.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:23 AM
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19. Yeah, the meme of being out spent in this historic election cycle is something I don't
believe we want to take hold. That was the first thing that jumped out at me anyway.
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:18 AM
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7. I'd LOVE it!
:patriot: Right now, America HAS no leader. President Barack Obama needs to step in YESTERDAY!!!!!!!! :patriot:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:18 AM
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9. So, he would cede the election to a "TERRORIST?"
:rofl:


Yeah, right....
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:21 AM
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10. Read the last paragraph of that article.
You ask how I know about these secret discussions. They came to me in what I can only interpret to be divine intervention one day as I was taking my daily walk. At first I thought maybe it was a "what if" stream of consciousness. But then I realized I had somehow accessed the real thing in some inexplicable telepathic way. And I surely had a responsibility to share all this with you.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:23 AM
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20. oh...a brain fart...
unmedicated one at that....
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tosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:32 AM
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24. Good call - "unmedicated one at that" - LOL!
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:21 AM
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11. If this is true, it could be seen to negate the full extent of Obama's win. . .
right now, if Obama wins by the margin some expect he will, his victory will be seen as an unmistakable repudiation of conservatism and its failed policies. For McCain to concede at this early a date would give the right a ready reason to belittle the clear mandate of Obama's election and set them up for renewed claims they were "stabbed in the back" by their "supposed" candidate.

No, I'd much rather McCain stick it out and get the thumping he and the conservative brand so rightly deserve.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:23 AM
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18. As long as we're speculating on this nonsense...
It could help the Republican down-ticket enormously by making Dems feel that it isn't necessary to vote.
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:22 AM
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13. That would be the most impressive thing he has ever done but..
I so wanted to see his bimbo wife as the first lady. I'm still waiting for the cat fight between her and Sarah Palin.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:22 AM
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14. this is an opinion piece, not news
The author is an idiot.

More of the same:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/966376/bye_bye_barry.html?cat=9


The final results are in on this historic November day. Despite the hundreds of millions of dollars he raised, Barack Obama has lost the 2008 presidential election. American voters have boldly spoken truth to arrogance. Turned out that all those pre-election opinion polls that showed Obama's inability to get over 50 percent support were prescient. Much of the public was never comfortable with Obama, though he clearly was so comfortable acting like he already was president.

Hillary and Bill Clinton are probably drinking champagne and having the sweetest time since Bill won his first presidential election. Hillary must now bite her lip repeatedly and resist saying publicly that "I told you so!" Hillary in 2012 will reveal that she learned her lessons well.

All that Obama audacity of arrogance from the smiling, glib politician finally died the death it so richly deserved. Too many pundits will blame his loss on his blackness and racist voters. But the larger truth is that sufficient voters saw through the many lies and deceptions. Obama always had a hard time giving a simple, short straight answer to tough questions. He was always mentally calculating exactly how to game his answers so that he would achieve all the benefits he had his eyes on. He was simply too damn presumptuous and too smart for his own good. In the end, Americans do not want the smartest person in the presidency or endless nuancing. They want someone they can easily understand and trust, despite their skepticism. There were many reasons not to trust the calculating Obama to do anything he promised to do or, for some people, to fear he might.

And now the bloviating pundits will also blame third party presidential candidates for siphoning votes from Obama, as if Americans have no right to exercise their political freedom and vote for someone they honestly think has the best policy positions and would most help restore American democracy.
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:22 AM
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15. NO...We need to kick his ass fair and square !
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:22 AM
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16. sorry, though it is rather wishfull thinking, this certainly does not
belong in LBN.
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ancient_nomad Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:23 AM
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21. I can't see McSame doing this.....n/t
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Schulzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:27 AM
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22. McCain is all about "McCain first" - no way this will happen. nt
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:29 AM
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23. Ok, this is weirder than Rush's explanation for the market crash. n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:35 AM
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25. Well dreaming can't hurt anything can it?
:evilgrin:
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Kalifornia.Kid Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:35 AM
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26. McCain's a Gambler - He'll Wager on Voter Suppression and Fraud
McCain's campaign hasn't finish playing dirty - wait until AFTER election day when the dirt really starts.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:37 AM
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27. Personally I could see the RNC moving their money towards the Senate Race
It's once thing to have a democrat as president but a democrat with 60 solid senate senates (ie no lieberman) is not something they want to deal with for 2 years.
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SurfingAtWork Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:39 AM
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28. Its a joke. Last sentence reveals it. Would be cool tho.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:41 AM
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30. You're right. The last line is clear about this being a joke.
Thanks for pointing that out!
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:39 AM
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29. I don't really believe this, but, honestly, I'd respect him if he did this.
He was once an honorable man. Anyone who can go through 6 years of prison, including torture, who worked on McCain-Feingold, who took in a child from one of the poorest nations on earth and raised him as his daughter, who took the beating he did from the Bush campaign in 2000...that was someone I could respect. His lust for power, though, in this campaign, has been just so disappointing. If he were to concede the election, stop this nastiness, and do what was best for the country, I'd regain my respect for him.

But the wingnuts, like those who spoke yesterday in Waukesha, would never allow it, imo.
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ipfilter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:05 PM
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34. There's a better chance he would steal it than concede it.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:21 PM
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35. LOL! Unfortunately satire fails when it isn't recognized as such and people...
have to wade through it before getting to the over the top conclusion that gives the primary clue to the literary genre.
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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:21 PM
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36. That last paragraph should be read first, and the remaining
paragraphs IGNORED. Ughhh!
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:23 PM
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38. Oh let it be...
:rofl:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:24 PM
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39. Probably the best reason of all is that he'll give Obama a chance to
challenge George Bush sooner, rather than later. This for McCain would be sweet revenge, since George didn't just undermine Al Gore in the 2000 election.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:26 PM
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40. I wouldn't rule this out as a possiblity....
Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 12:26 PM by jberryhill
McCain was manipulated into the Palin choice, and now he can't run the campaign that I believe he was sincere about wanting to run.

He wound up with the people that screwed him in 2000 working for him, but in effect giving him another screwing.

If he actually hung it up, it would be one of the redeeming acts of conscience in political history since LBJ's refusal to run for another term.

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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:27 PM
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41. K&R cuz we can dream, can't we? Sigh.... //
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:29 PM
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42. McCain is too dumb to quit now!
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MarthaMyDear Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:36 PM
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43. What happens if he DID concede? They replace him?????
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:43 PM
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44. I don't think they can legally replace him - delegate ballots were cast.
Of course, I'm not an expert, but I don't think they can just throw anyone in there.
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