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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 07:37 PM
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Quiz: McCain and Forrestal
Edited on Tue Oct-07-08 07:47 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
John McCain served on the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal. (That's the one that had the big fire.)

John McCain is a very different person than the carrier's namesake, James Forrestal, the first Secretary of Defense. They share some surface similarities, like naval careers and being Irish, but, unlike McCain, James Forrestal was a Democrat and was closely associated with a war we won. (WWII) Forrestal was not a glory-seeker. He kept a low profile, yet was hated by the press. (Maybe because he kept a low profile.) He was also involved in one of the most pro-diplomacy moves ever, pressing for a negotiated peace with Japan pre-Hiroshima. (To free up our forces to restrain Russia.)

No matter their differences, however, the two men share one striking trait. (That gets more noticeable every day.)

What is it?
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 07:43 PM
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1. Google McCain and USS Forrestal
Edited on Tue Oct-07-08 07:44 PM by madmax
There's a Ron Paul site that actually claims it was McNumbnuts's mucking around that caused the fire. FWIW :shrug:
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Leeny Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 07:52 PM
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4. I heard that too
It wasn't clear in the Rolling Stone article, but I heard from something my mom read that he was screwing around when he started the fire. Then he didn't help pull men out of the fire, or do much of anything except watch from a distance. What a rat-bastard!
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 07:57 PM
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5. Was something about wet starting the engine of the plane
whatever the hell that means. My impression was that it was some type of prank.

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Leeny Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:52 PM
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9. I think it was a prank
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 07:49 PM
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2. James Forrestal jumped to his death from the 16th floor of the Bethesda Naval Hospital.
There's no way Grandpa McSame could ever climb that many stairs.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 07:51 PM
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3. No, but they both went bonkers at the tail end of their careers.
Edited on Tue Oct-07-08 07:53 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 07:58 PM
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6. ok, you knew this was coming......
why did he jump.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 08:00 PM
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7. It was a belt-and-suspenders deal...
When he went out the window he had a sash tied around his neck too.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 10:46 PM
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