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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 11:56 AM
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Rep. Wilson (R- NM): Any Criticism Of ‘American Policy’ Is Unpatriotic (With Video)
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Today on CBS’s Face the Nation, Rep. Heather Wilson (R-NM) defended Gov. Sarah Palin’s (R-AK) new comments that Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) is “someone who sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country.” When host Bob Schieffer asked Wilson if she was therefore implying that Obama is “unpatriotic,” Wilson refused to disagree, noting that Obama has criticized “American policy”:

WILSON: Well, he has talked down about America. You know, we’ve always had this history of saying, “Well, you know, politics ends at the water’s edge.” It didn’t for Barack Obama. He’s been critical not only of the President but of American policy and hence has kind of a negative view of America in the world. That’s not unusual frankly among liberals in kind of post-Vietnam America, to say that America is the problem.


Watch:

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Link: http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/05/wilson-unpatriotic/

Ya know... these fuckers have NO CLUE what it is to be an American.

Shit... they would have sided with the British in 1776!

:mad:
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 11:59 AM
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1. Obama is a U.S. Senator.
He represents his constituents who elected him and SHAPES "American Policy".

The repuke Bizarro virtual unreality world gets worser and worser (to use Keith O's term). :rofl:
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 12:07 PM
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2. Three quotes come to mind:
"But you know as well as I, patriotism is a word; and one that generally comes to mean either 'my country, right or wrong,' which is infamous, or 'my country is always right,' which is imbecile."—Patrick O’Brian

"Patriotism means being loyal to your country all of the time and to your government when it deserves it."—Mark Twain

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."—Theodore Roosevelt

Heather Wilson can kiss my white Irish ass.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 12:10 PM
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3. Yep, Yep, And Yep... Thank You For The Quotes !!!
And she can kiss mine too!!!

:hi:
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 12:40 PM
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6. Another quote
"Congress shall make no law ...abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peacably to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States

Wilson, you sack, We the People are the sovereign entity, not the government. You and every member of government from the chief executive to the basic trainee are our servants. If one person is telling you all you're screwing up, you minimum listen. Servants don't threaten their masters. We decide and tell you how this nation's affairs will be conducted, not the other way around.

Read the document you took an oath to preserve, protect and defend. Read it and do your freaking job.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 12:45 PM
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7. Right - Fucking - On !!!
The fact that she, and people like her, don't get that... makes me want to question THEIR credentials of being American!

:mad:
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 01:57 PM
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19. Thank you, WillyT
Harry Truman got it: Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear.

Harry really got it: Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a Republican. But I repeat myself.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 12:27 PM
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4. GREAT! Then I DEMAND that we hold these idiots to their beliefs when OBAMA is President!
and if they refuse to comply, then we IMMEDIATLEY IMPRISON THEM!

After all, it goes to the "core" of what they believe...
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tannybogus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 12:33 PM
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5. Teddy Roosevelt:
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, right or wrong - is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."

http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/40369.html

They can all bite me!

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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 02:32 PM
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21. Wait a minute. Didn't McCain refer to himself as a "Teddy Roosevelt Republican"?
But he lets his surrogates say things about patriotism that directly counter Roosevelt's beliefs?
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Dr. Death Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 12:56 PM
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8. Two more quotes:
"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." (Samuel Johnson)

“In Dr. Johnson’s famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last resort of a scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but inferior lexicographer, I beg to submit that it is the first.”—Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary

Seems appropriate for McSame.
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blue-kite Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 01:01 PM
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10. Some more quotes... quite fitting for GOP fearmongers like this lovely lady.
“Patriots always talk of dying for their country, and never of killing for their country.” Bertrand Russell.
“The love of one's country is a splendid thing. But why should love stop at the border?” Pablo Casals.
“The time is fast approaching when to call a man a patriot will be the deepest insult you can offer him. Patriotism now means advocating plunder in the interest of the privileged classes of the particular State system into which we have happened to be born.” Tolstoy.

Cheers
BK
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blue-kite Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 12:57 PM
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9. What a retard this woman is... but I imagine some people might believe this crap.
Ciao
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 01:14 PM
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11. Fuck Heather Wilson, she lost her bid for the Senate and is back in the private sector
after this election. She lost and she is gone.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 01:16 PM
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12. Will these people never learn?
Why do they hate America??????

What you said - she would have had to have sided with the British!

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 01:17 PM
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13. Yep, their descendants would be in Canada, as we type. And on Pilate's side in 33 A.D.! Damn that
radical Nazarene anyway! Feed the poor, my foot!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 01:17 PM
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14. How about criticizing the "government" saying it's "the problem" vs. the solution and all?
:eyes:
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 01:19 PM
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15. what you said, especially this:
these fuckers have NO CLUE what it is to be an American.
... they would have sided with the British in 1776!
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 01:37 PM
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16. I will be so glad with this freaking faux patriotism crap
finally goes away. They never STFU. We need to make a clean sweep of these fascist assholes on election day.
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 01:38 PM
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17. This Is The New Meme - Patriotism Is Supporting The GOP's Agenda. Surprised?
The latest news on the economy underscores just how badly Bush has managed the economy. The bailout was finally passed after McCain's little stunts delayed the passage. However, notwithstanding the passage of the bill, we still face tough economic times"

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-econ5-2008oct05,0,3369735.story

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Even if the financial bailout plan begins to work, the nation will be lucky if all it experiences is a bad slowdown. The alternative, economists say, is something much worse -- a contraction that might go on for years.

The latest sign of trouble came Friday when the government reported that American employers sliced September payrolls by 159,000 jobs, the ninth straight month of losses and one that puts the country on track to shed a million jobs this year.

But jobs are only part of the trouble; almost every major player in the economy -- which had been growing until recently, if only slowly -- is now beating a hasty retreat:

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However, right at the time that Americans should be questioning their government, and asking what is wrong, and what can be done to fix our nation's problems, Republicans are saying that such questions are unpatriotic! In other words, true patriots would never criticize the policies of the Bush administration.

I, of course, disagree. I think it is unpatriotic not to point out and try to fix the severe damage that the Bush administration has done to our Nation and its people. If patriotism is loving your country, then the Republican's embrace of the policies that damaged America's image abroad and its economy at home, is utterly unpatriotic.

Nonetheless, Republicans are not trying to push the meme that patriotism means supporting Bush's policies.

First, on CBS’s Face the Nation, Rep. Heather Wilson (R-NM) noted that Obama has criticized “American policy”:

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WILSON: Well, he has talked down about America. You know, we’ve always had this history of saying, “Well, you know, politics ends at the water’s edge.” It didn’t for Barack Obama. He’s been critical not only of the President but of American policy and hence has kind of a negative view of America in the world. That’s not unusual frankly among liberals in kind of post-Vietnam America, to say that America is the problem.

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Second, in this article in the LA Times, the author traces the history of Republicans of defining patriotism as supporting Republican policies:

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-gabler5-2008oct05,0,3727511.story

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The real Americans: Forget red and blue, the real battle is over the allegedly authentic and the allegedly inauthentic.

McCarthy's equation didn't really take hold until the Vietnam War, when opposition itself would be cast as un-American. This was Richard Nixon's major contribution to our political taxonomy. For Nixon, America was cleaved between the vast Silent Majority (real) who agreed with him, supported the war and detested protesters and pointy-headed academics, and those protesters and academics who disagreed with him (unreal).

Republicans have been feasting on this division ever since, and so have the media, most likely because they fear being stigmatized by the same elitism. Everyone wants to be real, even if being real Americans looks suspiciously like being a hidebound conservative.

It is a neat gambit -- to conflate "real" with Republican and "un-American" with Democrats -- neater still when there are fewer and fewer Americans who fit the most colorful aspects of authenticity represented by a Sarah Palin.

If the country keeps clinging to this reductive stereotype despite its absurdity, it may be because we have never quite lost those powerful early American impulses. Our resentments against elitists still burn, our anger against our "betters" is still hot, and our fear of being called a phony still roars. Just ask any Republican.

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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 01:52 PM
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18. lol at that!
that whole "support ANY/ALL american policy or you are a traitor!!!!!111111111" -meme is SO 2003
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 02:27 PM
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20. Why is it so damned difficult for those people to understand that dissent IS PATRIOTIC?
Squashing dissent and disagreement, accusing those who disagree with current government policies of nefarious motives, and effectively shutting down discussion are about the most UNAMERICAN actions people could take.

The unpatriotic, unAmerican ones are those who want everyone else to march in lockstep, not the ones who speak out against policies they believe are wrong.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 02:49 PM
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22. I thought she was about to be indicted for something. What happened?
She's one of the most annoying, holier-than-thou 'pukes out there.
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