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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:11 PM
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Klein: Palin Was Fine, but This Debate Was No Contest
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1846997,00.html?imw=Y

Klein: Palin Was Fine, but This Debate Was No Contest
By Joe Klein Friday, Oct. 03, 2008



She was animated and confident. She displayed an ability, for the first time since her convention speech, to repeat, with a fair amount of credibility, the formulations that her handlers had given her. You knew she was well prepared when practically the first words out of her mouth were "Go to a kids' soccer game ..." She had that folksy thing down — although I did notice, watching the squiggly lines down at the bottom of the CNN screen, that when she tried to get cutesy with her folksiness, it didn't work.

She also was allowed to do fine by Joe Biden, who never really challenged her—his criticisms were always directed at John McCain — and never exposed the obvious shallowness of her knowledge on most topics. (He must have been sorely tempted to correct Palin when she called David McKiernan, the commanding general in Afghanistan, "McLellan," but Biden was hardwired — I imagine his debate prep was a form of electroshock therapy — not to correct her, attack her, disrespect her.)

Indeed, Sarah Palin's high-energy performance in the vice-presidential debate was the most glaring demonstration — since George W. Bush's performances in 2000 — of how little you can get away with knowing and still survive one of these things, especially if the rules limit the cross-examination as severely as they did in this debate. Her relentless opacity was impressive. She refused to answer the questions for which she hadn't been prepped with answers, and when Biden pointed out that an early question had been on deregulation, not taxes, she flashed: "I may not answer the questions the way you and the moderator want to hear, but I'm gonna talk straight to the American people."

Talk straight she didn't, with only a few exceptions. She talked talking points. And when the talking points concerned areas in which she didn't know diddly, she didn't talk them very convincingly. Indeed, there were times I got the distinct impression that she didn't understand the points she was talking about (on the Vice President's constitutional powers, for example).

Joe Biden, by contrast, demonstrated a real knowledge of the issues in question. He made several verbal fumbles — it was Syria, not Hizballah, that left Lebanon — and at times he lapsed into legi-speak, even using plague words like amendments and Liheap (the winter heating-oil assistance program for poor people). But his was a solid, informed and restrained performance — although his best moments came near the end of the debate (when much of America had turned to the baseball playoffs or reruns of their favorite sitcoms on cable). He was genuinely moving when he talked about being a single parent after the death of his wife (he almost began to weep but held it together); in fact, that moment was more real than anything Palin said all night. He also closed with a devastating point: McCain was, sure enough, a maverick on some things, but not on any of the issues that really mattered in this election — and he listed those issues, and where McCain stood on them, to great effect.

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Palin's problem, and McCain's, is that the recent past is crucial in this election. Bush's decisions over the past eight years — to go to war in Iraq, to neglect the war in Afghanistan, to aggrandize the rich and neglect the middle class — created the dreadful moment this country faces right now, and people know that. Fearful for their futures and the nation's, they seem to be looking for something different—and that something involves steadiness, knowledge and some clear ideas about what to do going forward, qualities that Sarah Palin did not display tonight.

What she did show was some folksy charm and some energy—qualities that might get her selected for Dancing with the Stars if not Jeopardy. But that's not enough to change the trajectory of this race, especially since nothing that was said in this debate will be remembered, or remarked on, a week from now.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:25 PM
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1. Okay, here are the words she had written on her note cards....

Ummmmm
Gee
Gee wiz
Gosh
Shucks
Gonna Getcha!
Shoo shoo shoo!
Hockey Mom
Soccer Moms
Lipstick
Terrorists
Maritime Border
Trade Mission
Air Space
Patrol
Alaska
Tax Relief
Special Needs
Bridge to Nowhere
Russia
Maverick
Reformer
Job Creation
Surge
Media Bias
Bad Guys
Good Guys
Evil Men
Good ol’ boys
Outsider
Mayor
Governor
Community Organizer
Wasilla
Pro-Life
Pit Bull
Real American
Russia
Main Street
Foreign Oil
Energy Independence
Faith
God
Pro-Life
Tax Relief
Special Needs
Putin and
President Karzai
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:49 PM
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2. You're probably right; those words tweaked the talking points
Palin memorized, because she sure didn't introduce any independent thought into the conversation.
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:08 PM
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5. You forgot time for a wink, Sarah
It really said drink.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:15 PM
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7. :-) wink wink! nt
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:09 PM
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6. I haven't heard anyone mention the fact that she once called Biden, Senator O'Biden.
:rofl:
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:16 PM
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8. Can you believe that!? What a total loser she is. nt
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:00 PM
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3. McClellan was that great Union Civil War general.....
OK, maybe not so great. The Mayor of Simpleton really knows her history.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:06 PM
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4. She really meant someone else, donchaknow?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:20 PM
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9. This part cracks me up..
".. but Biden was hardwired — I imagine his debate prep was a form of electroshock therapy — not to correct her, attack her, disrespect her.)"
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:37 PM
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10. He excelled though; he won! I'll take it! nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:30 PM
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11. Biden was awesome.. he's a natural
uniter as witnessed when the debate was over ..

"Mitch noticed the unusual behavior of Biden right after at
the debate's end. I had to watch the footage twice before I
caught the quick thing noticed by my eagle-eyed husband.

Two groups had formed once the debate was concluded, one
group around each candidate. Smoothly, swiftly, Biden found
Palin's husband, shook hands with him, and quickly caused the
two groups to turn into one."


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


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