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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:51 PM
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OH BOY! THE MARKET IS CRASHING! WOOHOO!
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 12:53 PM by Occam Bandage
Yeah! Fuck the wall-street fat cats! Watch their money disappear! Why, I'll bet some of them might lose 20, even 30% of their multibillion-dollar fortunes! Thank god the awful disgusting bailout package failed!

Oh, and to the millions of people who will lose their jobs if no bailout is passed and the economy is thrown into a depression: Sorry. You're collateral damage in our awesome class warfare. Oh, and sorry to everyone who'll lose their retirement savings. And everyone who wants to go to college or sell a house or do anything but bitch about "capitalism" on the Internet. See, we gotta keep our priorities straight.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:52 PM
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1. Celebrations is not the answer!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:55 PM
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16. Is our DUers celebrating?
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:37 PM
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84. All our celebrations are belong to us.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:41 PM
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85. How will we puts food on our families?
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:45 PM
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136. We must make the pie higher, obviously!
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:52 PM
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138. Obviously, you misunderestimate the amount of pi.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 06:03 PM
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143. Well, I only misunderestimated because I was spending my time
pondering whether the human being and fish can coexist peacefully. So there. :P
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 06:06 PM
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144. Well played, sir...er...I mean, ma'am....
Well played.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 06:12 PM
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145. And you as well, Sir.
*curtsies*
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:21 PM
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79. read the whole post - the poster is being sarcastic....
n/t
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:52 PM
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2. nice..thank you n/t
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:53 PM
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3. Lots of seniors will be hurting too if it does, and NOT rich ones either!
for example teacher retirement
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:53 PM
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4. Yeah fuck the little people that have stock or work for banks.
You're a fucking asshole.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:53 PM
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10. You obviously are unfamiliar with sarcasm.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:54 PM
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What Ronny said
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:55 PM
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19. Ronny, he's being sarcastic.
n/t
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:56 PM
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24. I would hope so.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:17 PM
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67. Don't worry, Ronny. It was sarcasm. :)
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:53 PM
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93. No need to rely on hope, just read the post. It's self-evident. n/t
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:13 PM
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113. Sarcasm recognition fail.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:54 PM
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139. Or have any job at all.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:53 PM
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5. They struck first.
I'm not against the bailout, but you must remember that the upper class has been waging a war against the lesser classes since the 80's. It's about time we fought back (just not in this way.)
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:53 PM
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6. Yeah... nice watching my 401k shivel into pennies...
I'm guessing you don't have any investments...
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:54 PM
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11. I'm in the same boat.
This. is. not. good.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:54 PM
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13. I expanded the second paragraph to make my point a bit more clear.
Perhaps that helps?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:58 PM
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35. And I hope everbody has extra money in the bank to take care of your parents..
and grandparents until the day they die.

Gawd, this is horrible.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:53 PM
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7. This is in no way helpful!
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:53 PM
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8. Yep. Just as long as those fat cats get punished.
To hell with everyone else! :banghead:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:53 PM
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9. Shit, Mr. B@L's company has already laid off people; he was just clinging. Shit.
I'll have no health insurance and I'm insulin dependent.

Shit.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:54 PM
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12. I'll be competing for that Walmart Greeter Job
with all the rest of the 85 year olds I guess.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:54 PM
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14. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
:scared: :scared: :scared:

Holy shit! Anyone watching CNBC? The traders are literally just staring up at TV screens watching this all unfold.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:54 PM
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15. Nice touch asshole
My dad just got layed off and is relying on his small retirement savings to survive the next 25 years or so. He isn't a Wall Street fat-cat like you mentioned. My kids college funds for my kids are being killed. They are not Wall Street Fat-cats.

I get your point that some of the greedy fucks are getting their own. But us ordinary people are taking even harder. Hope your job is secure.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:55 PM
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20. Occam was being sarcastic.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:57 PM
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32. Exactly. I thought it was painfully obvious.
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!

(That's me being sarcastic and terrified in the same breath)
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:56 PM
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28. It was sarcasm. He's with you. -nt
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:55 PM
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17. Yeah, big woohoo to you, I guess you want to fuck the retirees who won't have a chance to get their
gains back. I guess you want to give a big woohoo to the regular workers who have their 401ks going to hell or go to hell if you get your wish.

Whose side are you on anyway.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:56 PM
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25. And a big "woohoo" to people who only read the first lines of posts.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:00 PM
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40. deleted posted more than once.
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 01:02 PM by EV_Ares
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:01 PM
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41. duplicated.
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 01:03 PM by EV_Ares
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:01 PM
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42. Your entire post sucks. You better go down thru the replies and give everyone a big woohoo who
read your stupid post and they read past the first few lines too.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:04 PM
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47. I got it.
Don't be mad at him because you didn't. :shrug:
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:06 PM
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51. If it was so easy to get and I read it, how come so many didn't get it?
Maybe you guys don't give a dam about retirees and those of us with 401ks but I do.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:11 PM
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56. I've got my theory.
People who have been just barely masking their glee over this affair infest DU. This angers people, but they can't take out their anger because the jackasses are usually just subtle enough that you can't punch them in the face.

In frustration, I mock up a satirical idiot. People who are already furiously angry at the real idiots are so eager to fire away that they don't stop to inspect the idiot for traces of sarcasm.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:11 PM
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57. dupe
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 01:16 PM by Forkboy


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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:15 PM
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62. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:12 PM
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75. I think your post showed who is dumb, not the rest of us.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:41 PM
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81. Says the one who missed the blatant sarcasm.
Then made mindless accusations about the OP and I not giving a shit, even after the sarcasm was pointed out to you.

Yeah, I'm the dumb one.... :rofl:

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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:55 PM
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82. If that was sarcasm and nobody got it; pretty poor, unless trying to weasel out of a idiot comment.
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 02:59 PM by EV_Ares
You failed.

Maybe you better find another occupation than trying to do sarcasm.

You guys happy now, some companies might not make their payrolls.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:50 PM
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92. When you find yourself in a hole, Mensa, set the shovel aside.
:eyes:
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:05 PM
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94. Yeah, you need to take that advice, look down thru here you can see who
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 04:10 PM by EV_Ares
dug a hole. Try something else. Is there some reason you want to save your buddy after his asinine comment.

You guys happy now.

Hell if it was sarcasm, not this many would have not been able to get it.

Read the frigging post again.

After you guys got blasted, sure just like McCain try to say it was meant as sarcasm.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:34 PM
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102. sigh.....
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 04:46 PM by Barrymores Ghost
Look, sport, I understand that tensions are high and that people have a lot at stake, but there comes a time when you need to swallow your pride and admit you lept before you looked. I got the post the first time I read it, before any of O.B.'s second-paragraph wordsmithing...THAT being for the benefit of those like you who apparently need snark spelled out for them slowly, with a big red crayon.

But you go ahead and keep turning your sub-thread on this OP into a multi-chapter serial novel of your knee-jerkism. After all, it's your afternoon to kill.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:51 PM
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105. Like I said must be important for you and look sport, as I said, good sarcasm
doesn't need explaining. So swallow your pride, and just admit it either was a poor, very poor job or you guys are just simply trying to justify an asinine post which is how people saw it. Calling DUers a bunch of fucking morons is also asinine.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:12 PM
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112. ...
If the foo shits, wear it. You have to take ownership of your own jump to a conclusion.

As many, if not more than most, got it. Quite a number of those who didn't, I personally know to be severely irony-impaired. You happen to have joined their ranks. Oh well. It's not a life-threatening condition...so, relax.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:18 PM
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114. For not to be a life-threatening condition, appears with your desperate
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 05:24 PM by EV_Ares
attempts to give the asinine post legitimacy, must be for you.

As far as your new comment after calling people "fucking morons", now calling those people along with me of course "severely irony-impaired", that alone shows your intelligence.

I don't attack DUers or people I don't know. Your comment doesn't threaten me as I know it is another one of your simple asinine comments.

Hell next time if you want to try sarcasm, try doing a better job, its on here all the time and usually people get it.

Maybe next time you will have better luck. Let it drop, OK.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:28 PM
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120. You should re-read your first post on the subject.
You may have left out overt name-calling, but it was an attack, nonetheless. Others who missed the OP's rub were not as charitable as you. Oh, and it seems that if you weren't so concerned with being perceived as irony-deficient, you wouldn't be getting your panties into such a twist.

I'm not the original poster, in case you forgot...so you can quit projecting your obvious embarrassment onto me. Or not. In any case, it's no skin off of my ass.

You have yourself a fabulous evening, now...ya hear?
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:30 PM
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122. Oh and adding the second paragraph after people was blasting him
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 05:31 PM by EV_Ares
doesn't work either does it. A couple of others caught that as well.

Hey, you have one too.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:33 PM
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126. He didn't add a second paragraph, genius...he fine-tuned it...
...for the benefit of the knee-jerkists who didn't bother with reading the post in the first place. I know, because I read the post within a minute of its first appearance.

Nice try, though...your beleaguered persistence is admirable, if not hilarious.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:36 PM
Response to Reply #126
130. Oh, add that name as well, yeah, fine-tuned, OK, nice try. Keep on
trying to convince everyone.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #130
131. No trying to convince anyone, my dear friend...
...just telling you what you'd missed while you were raging like a frothy-mouthed maniac against someone who stands squarely on your side.

Kiss, kiss.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #51
90. I'm sure if you were honest, you could answer that better than most. n/t
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:25 PM
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100. Your buddy's post must mean a lot to you since you are trying so hard to convince
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 04:27 PM by EV_Ares
everyone it was sarcasm.

Good sarcasm does not need such convincing, if it is good sarcasm, it is recognized as such.

Try somewhere else, everyone saw it for what it was, nothing but an asinine post.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:21 PM
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116. I don't even know him. I don't think we've even ever spoke.
Good sarcasm does not need such convincing, if it is good sarcasm, it is recognized as such.

Quite often the best sarcasm goes undetected. You telling people about good sarcasm is like Cheney telling me about peace. Clearly, it's not your strong suit.

everyone saw it for what it was, nothing but an asinine post.

Apparently not, as many of us got it just fine. You weren't one of them and made a kneejerk remark. We all do it sometimes, so why don't you just do the decent thing and apologize to the OP, or at least stop blaming others for your lack of sarcasm detection capabilities. :shrug:
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #116
118. LOL, man keep trying. If it was sarcasm you still wouldn't be trying
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 05:26 PM by EV_Ares
so hard would you. Hell, look down the post and see.

Yeah, thats right, good sarcasm, people get, done here all the time and not hard to deteck

Go back to the drawing board and get some lessons.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:29 PM
Response to Reply #118
121. EV, when most people embarrass themselves, they just sit down and let it blow over.
Puffing up doesn't help.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #121
127. I agree, you might try it, also, next time you get blasted for making a comment
like you did, don't try adding on the next paragraph. A little honesty goes a long way also.

Never met you before, but didn't appreciate it. I and my wife will get through this OK, will lose money but there are a lot of people who will suffer because of the greed and corruption of others. However, nothing can be done about that now but can look at how we got here and hopefully prevent it from happening in the future. Hopefully; as there will always be greed.

However, this bill needs to get passed regardless if some asshole who helped cause it, might gain.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:36 PM
Response to Reply #118
128. Let me try this again.
Even if you didn't get the sarcasm he's still on the same side of the argument you are. Yet even after finding that out you've yet to apologize for your extremely wrong, knee jerk comment. Why is so hard for you to that?

It's not even about the joke anymore. It's about you being grossly wrong about someone and not having the basic decency to admit that. Forget the joke and whether it's good sarcasm or not (which is like arguing over which is the best music or flavor of ice cream). Just be a decent human. What you said about the OP (and me, for that matter) was entirely, 100% wrong.

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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:44 PM
Response to Reply #128
134. If we are on the same page, thats good. The trying to convince everyone
about the sarcasm however is weak. Just to be done with this stupid posting, yeah, OK a weak attempt at sarcasm.

As far as apologizing, nothing to apologize for and have already posted to the poster my thoughts about this.

Nothing against anyone here but to be done with this if you say it is sarcasm then that is good.

Like I told him, we will do OK will lose or losing money but that will be gained back in time. But you have people who are in their retirement and they may not have enough time to make gains back. You have struggling workers with 401Ks and you have small businesses that have to meet payroll and may not be able to do that if they don't get this bill passed.

I realize there will be some greedy people who might make out on this deal but you can't punish the American worker for a few of the bastards.

That said, OK, nothing personal, been a bad day, I will accept your word about the attempt at sarcasm and lets leave it at that.

We probably are on the same side most of the time.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:56 PM
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140. Thank you for that post.
I certainly don't like the punish the people approach that I've seen from a few here today, which was why I liked the OP.

I'm beyond struggling myself, and when I was younger I had resentment towards anyone richer than me (which was most everyone). It's tough when you see people who only seem to care when it's their money flow being affected. In time I realized that was a wrong attitude to take. A lot of people well off (which itself is relative...someone making 30K is far better off then me, but way worse than most) do a lot of good things with that money, or just worked hard to get it. Whenever an issue like this comes up we see people who still haven't made that distinction yet. And of course there really is a lot of people who simply don't care about anyone less fortunate than them, feeding that resentment.

For me, I had to stop thinking that way because I can't root for bad things to happen to others to help a cause I believe in, even if that cause is crucial. There has to be a line we shouldn't cross, and I found mine.

And I'm sure we have many more things in common than we don't. :toast:

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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #140
142. Thanks for your post as well. There are enough bad things happening to
people in this climate. Enjoyed your post and you have the right attitude, you are right, we are both on the same page and something in common.

Take Care.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:05 PM
Response to Reply #42
49. I was, but I realized there wasn't much to be gained by being snarky to people who are on my side.
If I fail as a satirist, then I succeed as an agent provocateur. Either way, you're moved in the direction I want you to be moved, eh?
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:55 PM
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18. Nice of you to celibrate the loss of working people's 401Ks
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 12:57 PM by nomad1776
and any investments they have made. So much for the concpet that liberals are compassionate and care about the working man and woman.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:55 PM
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21. Nice of you to not read past the headline.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:56 PM
Original message
Maybe you edit your headline
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:57 PM
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31. It's up to you read more than that.
If you got too upset and fired off the post before reading that far that's your fault, not Occam's.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #31
50. That second paragraph was not on there
originally. Sarcasm is one thing. Adding sarcasm after the initial post is fine. I get it. But don't fuck with the original message after you get piled on from DUers.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #50
53. Yes, it was. It stopped after "awesome class warfare."
I decided to expand it to clarify, since I realized I couldn't count on the reader to not be an idiot.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:43 PM
Response to Reply #53
133. I have to say,
I read the headline, and was irritated. I read the first line, and was angry. I read the second paragraph, and by the time I got to "awesome class warfare." I was saying RIGHT ON OCCAM!
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:28 PM
Response to Reply #50
119. Yeah after he got blasted for doing the post, he added that. Now they
are doing what they can to try and convince everyone it was sarcasm.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #21
34. That lip service is BULL SHIT
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 12:58 PM by nomad1776
you are way too happy at other people's misery.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:03 PM
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46. go past the headline it is the same shit.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:55 PM
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22. VIVA FREE MARKETS!!!
We can raise up from this. We will suffer but I hope someone learns a lesson.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:03 PM
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45. I hope it's people like you.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:10 PM
Response to Reply #45
54. There are people worse off around the world
And we turned our faces on them. Maybe this is all that needs to happen so we pay attention.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:15 PM
Response to Reply #54
65. whatthefuckever...
why don't you get off your know it all ass and go to one of those other countries.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #65
68. U need to take your meds
And maybe double the dose.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #65
69. .
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 01:25 PM by Lost-in-FL
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:56 PM
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23. I'm with you and I didn't miss your sarcasm.
I am sick to my stomach right now.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:56 PM
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26. Maybe you should add that "sarcasm" thingy ... some here don't get it
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:57 PM
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29. No way. If people want to expose their jerked knees, let 'em.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:02 PM
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44. That second paragraph was added on EDIT
I posted before the EDIT.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #44
52. Yes. I edited it to make it more clear, after realizing the first was a bit subtle.
If people still believe that I was serious, then more power to 'em.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #52
58. Occam I have read your stuff before
Sometimes there is a time and place NOT to be sarcastic. Today is one of them.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:41 PM
Response to Reply #58
132. And sometimes, in the face of the greatest peril, humor is EXACTLY....
...what is required. It makes an impact without the use of a cudgel.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:56 PM
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27. SOME OF YOU NEED TO READ THE ENTIRE POST. He's being sarcastic. He gets it. nt
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:57 PM
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30. when the trucking companies can't operate and get food to
grocery stores etc. I hope people are fucking happy. This is total bullshit..savings gone..jobs gone..we're truly fucked now. Dumb just fucking dumb. The bastards who voted no on this have already secured their money under a mattress. The rest of us have lost what little we had.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:58 PM
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33. I normally enjoy your sarcasm.
Today, not so much. The coming recession may just bounce my daughter from her dream college to a state school.

This sucks on toast.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:59 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. Dream colleges are overrated.
She can get a great education in a state school.It is not the school but the student.
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asteroid2003QQ47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #37
71. State schools oft Teach the Best and Shoot the Rest
but that's okay with you, right?
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:37 PM
Response to Reply #71
74. I'm all for Natural selection nt
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asteroid2003QQ47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #74
147. Then presumably you're pro tenured Elitist Asshole Professors...
all too often found treading water to retirement at State universities.
In accordance with The Peter Principle they sometimes rise beyond their
true level of incompetence and become administrators. They then are able
to impose draconian core requirements on the most vulnerable students that
are treated as nothing more than meat on the hook to be bled dry.
It's obvious you know nothing of university politics.
$tudent$ ARE the University!
------------------------------------------

"University politics are vicious precisely because the stakes are so small."
--Henry Kissinger
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asteroid2003QQ47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 06:32 AM
Response to Reply #74
148. "Natural selection" synonymous with suicide in your case apparently. n/t

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cameozalaznick Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:59 PM
Response to Original message
36. I have retirement money in the market, idiot.
And you probably do too, moron.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:59 PM
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38. Priceless. I, for one, admire your satirical skills.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:59 PM
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39. That's MY money disappearing
And everyone else with a 401k plan which covers a lot of people in the workforce. Cheering about this is in very bad taste.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:02 PM
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43. exactly occam. as long as the greedy gets theirs and start jumping out windows, fuck
all the rest of us. every part of our society.... the old, the young the middle, the bottom

but man, are the fat cats getting theirs

i will put the sarcasm picture since so many do get it

:sarcasm:
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:04 PM
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48. And my retirement account, which I have saved pennies for 40 years to get
you happy that's going too?

Gee, thanks.

Asshole.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #48
137. It was sarcasm. Take a breath. n/t
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:10 PM
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55. Yeah, wow, that'll teach'em, they'll have to sell one of their yachts
or a vacation home. Poor guys.

Meanwhile, my mother, who got through the Great Depression picking fruit and living in the back of her family's Packard with her 5 sisters, is scared to death.

I hope everybody can use their righteous indignation to stay warm this winter, because you may not hvae much else going for you.

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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:13 PM
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59. Except it's not "our" class war
It was the Republicans who killed the bill. RimJob just gave his view of the vote on Free Republic, saying "Long live freedom. Praise God".
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:14 PM
Response to Reply #59
60. The Republicans are primarily to blame. Still, there are plenty of misguided liberals
who are opposed to this bill.
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:14 PM
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61. yay woohoo now they will fire everyone??
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 01:33 PM by frickaline
I can only pray you are kidding.

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:15 PM
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63. Hey, it's going to crash, with or without hyper-inflation of the dollar.
This is the best-worst scenario. :shrug:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #63
66. "It's probably going to eventually crash" is not a good reason to stand by and let it happen.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:15 PM
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64. The market is adjusting.
A bank that looks like a piggy is worth a trillion dollars less after you remove a trillion dollars from it.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:25 PM
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70. No one wants this--but it's like getting an immunization shot. It's unfortunate,
but necessary if we want our asses yanked out of the fryer.
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:33 PM
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72. OMG! lol
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 01:34 PM by Doityourself
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:34 PM
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73. You'll be laughing out of the other side of your face when this hits home...
When you can't buy gas, or groceries... this is the only time the economy REALLY trickles down... debt trickles down.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:18 PM
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76. I gather you aren't invested in anything? Are you on medication?
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:19 PM
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77. Down 627 and counting..Happy ??? (sarcasm)
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 02:44 PM by Doityourself
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:21 PM
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78. I am always amazed at the sheer number of people who cannot detect sarcasm
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 02:27 PM by nam78_two
when it is posted sans the appropriate tag...
FWIW I think we may be looking at a depression now :-/....I didn't like the bail-out bill, but I suspected that it was needed and fast. But then again, I don't know enough about any of this to have a really educated opinion on this. I am regretting not taking any courses in economics in grad school-would have helped in parsing all the jargon I am seeing thrown around. But, I think we might be in worse trouble now...The bill struck me as a necessary evil.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #78
80. I would say evidently with the number of people who do not see it that way, he might want
to try something other than sarcasm since he must be pretty poor at it.

I read the post and he failed.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #80
89. I don't shy from snaring idiots.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5383101

If I didn't plan on snagging people who didn't read past the first line, I wouldn't make the first line so inflammatory.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #80
103. Says more about you than him, friend.
Talk about going out of one's way to cover one's tracks....Jeez.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:24 PM
Response to Reply #78
117. This isn't even Occam's best attempt.
He had a killer thread months ago. :)
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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:15 PM
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83. For the Love of Frak, can no one understand sarcasm???
Thanks Occam, I got it and I agree. I think many of those offended aren't so much offended for the "little guy" as they are annoyed at being lampooned.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:38 PM
Response to Reply #83
104. I do, and, oh...Frak sends his love right back atcha. n/t
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:42 PM
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86. I stop celebrating when I look at the performance of my 401k...
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:43 PM
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87. Exactly. The rich will be just fine. When marginal lending collapses Joe-Six-Pack will choke on his
idiocy. I'm an investor and I'm just fine even after today.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:44 PM
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88. It's called SARCASM, you f*cking MORANS!
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 03:47 PM by Barrymores Ghost
Jesus - I used to think that irony was lost mostly on Repukes.

Good post, Occam Bandage. Some of us get it.

And as for the rest of you, who actually ARE celebrating the death of this bail-out as some sort of "come-uppance" for the wealthy, you haven't got a f*cking clue.
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sakura Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:50 PM
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91. Another well written post, completely misunderstood. nt
You have as much a right to vent as anyone else.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:17 PM
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95. There are 2 types of DUers...those who get sarcasm without the tag
and those who don't....
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:18 PM
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96. the thing is, we need regulation
if a billionaire loses even half of their wealth they are still filthy rich. A market crash will do nothing more than eat away at the middle class. We need a 'bailout" bill that is very heavy in regulation, the Democrats should be able to vote for the plan of a certain far left independent from New England.....
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:19 PM
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97. the thing is, we need regulation
if a billionaire loses even half of their wealth they are still filthy rich. A market crash will do nothing more than eat away at the middle class. We need a 'bailout" bill that is very heavy in regulation, the Democrats should be able to vote for the plan of a certain far left independent from New England.....
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:24 PM
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98. Democrats aren't against Capitalism
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 04:25 PM by RobertSeattle
We just believe it needs to have controls so the playing field is fair.
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:24 PM
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99. I'm so glad to read something so sane, Occam.
I have been frustrated with all of the "eat the rich" posts I've seen all over DU. Do these people really not get it? The level of disdain some seem to have for people who simply bought a house or have a 401K is astounding. Calling these people RICH? This pisses me off.
We will ALL suffer if this continues.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:26 PM
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101. I approve this snark. :)
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:52 PM
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106. Once the layoff start rolling, I hope that yours is among the first (nt)
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #106
135. A sense of irony is not your strong suit, I presume. n/t
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 04:59 PM
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107. Good snark
Too bad so many people missed it. I'm sick of all the "screw the fat cats" posts I've seen lately.
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:00 PM
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108. Good snark
Too bad so many people missed it. I'm sick of all the "screw the fat cats" posts I've seen lately.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:03 PM
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109. Is the sarcasm smilie missing from the OP?
Nice line in schadenfreude.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:19 PM
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115. Yes.
Many of us thought the sentiment was axiomatic. To others, obviously, it wasn't.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:03 PM
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110. Point made. And well taken.
The fat cats will do fine, and continue to make decisions based on their self interest.

The little guy will get kicked in the teeth yet again.

But for most, at least gays can't get married, and that Palin woman hunts moose!

That's got to be more important than health care, food, energy, housing, jobs, student loans and retirement security.

Right?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:04 PM
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111. I cannot believe this happened.
I am ill.
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Eyes_wide_ open Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:31 PM
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123. Un-freakin'believable

And to think that I come to DU for 'intelligent' conversation! Maybe I ought to rethink that :shrug:

Thanks OB, for trying to smack down some of the stupidity running rampart through this board today. How anyone could possibly read this post and not recognize the sarcasm is mind boggling to me.

For those of you with your head up your ass whining about the edit ... FAIL. I'm not even familiar with Occam Bandage's writing and I recognized the sarcasm in the TITLE! Hint ... OH BOY! should have been your first clue. Failing that in the first paragraph ...

"Why, I'll bet some of them might lose 20, even 30% of their multibillion-dollar fortunes!"

C'mon people! Do the math ... jeez. All of that was there BEFORE the edit. If you didn't get it, you weren't looking. Quit beating up someone that's on your side. I see a whole lot of posts today saying the very things your piling on OB about, why aren't you slamming THEM?
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:32 PM
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124. courage people
Don't be driven by fear.

Yes, there is a crisis. Yes, all of the dire warnings by people here have substance - they are real.

No one advocates "doing nothing."

It is not a question of whether or not we face this crisis and take bold action. Do not believe that. Do not be driven like sheep into the abyss.

"This is preeminently the time to speak the truth, the whole truth, frankly and boldly. Nor need we shrink from honestly facing conditions in our country today. This great Nation will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper. So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself — nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance. In every dark hour of our national life a leadership of frankness and vigor has met with that understanding and support of the people themselves which is essential to victory. I am convinced that you will again give that support to leadership in these critical days."

"Yet our distress comes from no failure of substance. We are stricken by no plague of locusts. Compared with the perils which our forefathers conquered because they believed and were not afraid, we have still much to be thankful for. Nature still offers her bounty and human efforts have multiplied it. Plenty is at our doorstep, but a generous use of it languishes in the very sight of the supply. Primarily this is because the rulers of the exchange of mankind’s goods have failed, through their own stubbornness and their own incompetence, have admitted their failure, and abdicated. Practices of the unscrupulous money changers stand indicted in the court of public opinion, rejected by the hearts and minds of men."

"True they have tried, but their efforts have been cast in the pattern of an outworn tradition. Faced by failure of credit they have proposed only the lending of more money. Stripped of the lure of profit by which to induce our people to follow their false leadership, they have resorted to exhortations, pleading tearfully for restored confidence. They know only the rules of a generation of self-seekers. They have no vision, and when there is no vision the people perish."

- FDR
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crazy_vanilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:32 PM
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125. it is the lesser of two evils - no one is crazy about it, but it's necessary n/t
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:36 PM
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129. You'll have to expound on that...
...if you don't mind. Otherwise, your remark is just another meaningless bromide in the face of evaporating 401ks and college funds.
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Fractasticlicious Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:59 PM
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141. Your concern is noted
BWAAHAAHAAHAA! Burn baby burn!
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 06:14 PM
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146. It's sarcasm people!! Get aware of what OB is saying. Fuck Repubs. n/t
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