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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:32 AM
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Somebody Needs To Do A Reconnaissance Mission At Freak Republic
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 08:32 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
And see how they are reacting to all the bad news; sinking polls, sinking stock markets, and sinking candidates...
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:33 AM
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1. Impossible
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 08:36 AM by Marsala
Their site is too poorly set up. Only random snippets are possible to find.

But there was this in reaction to Rasmussen:

Ouch!

I don’t like Rasmussen today. :(

Going the other way from Gallup.

not matter how anyone wants to cut it, or claim this is BS, or say Raz is on drugs, etc- this is not good news at all...

Ah, so NOW Gallup has it even, battleground has McCain ahead and Ras has Obama surging. I give up, there is like NO correlation between these polls at all now.

Forget daily polls they mean nothing.

Obama would have had to get an absolutely HUGE day yesterday. Of course, early on the news was all reporting the Obama talking point that John McCain is trying to bring down the financial system.
I find this highly dubious. There is another angle no one is talking about. McCain is running an anti-media campaign. Conservatives are more irate at the media establishment now than they have ever been. Hang-up rates for conservative Republicans on these polls simply must be outpacing liberal Democrats by a huge margin making the polls unreliable.
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musicblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:36 AM
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3. From what very little I have seen of their site. you are right. the lay out is shit compared to DU
Even if I WAS a republican... I would be unable to endure sure a crappy site.

On the other hand, DU is one of the best set up messageboards I have seen. I enjoy the lay out of reading the threads. It is much easier to navigate.
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GAtomboy Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:34 AM
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2. Come on
You know how they are reacting... in a state of denial with unbridled enthusiasm for McSame/Phalin

Don't waste your time
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:36 AM
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5. Yes, that's it.
They've got the results of one poll up and are confidently touting McCain's two point lead... somewhere... as evidence that all is well. This is what's strange: when, in the past, we at DU have felt uncertainty and despair, we talk about it. Over there... nothing. They simply do not acknowledge how screwed they really are.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:49 AM
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13. They are taking comfort from this
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

One poll out of 11 has mcloser up 2. The other ones all have Sen Obama up but they'll cling to their unreality.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:19 AM
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17. The funny thing about that paticular one is its actually Obama that is up 2. fom where he was, So
the +2 means he is 2 points ahead of Obama but DOWN 2 points from his previous lead of 4 points. SO that is actually a -2
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:00 PM
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18. Shhhhh - dont' confuse them
with reality. Let them be overconfident. It'll be that much sweeter when they lose.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:48 AM
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11. These are the same losers
that thought the pubs were actually going to pick up seats in congress in 2006 - they have no sense of reality. They think they can wish/pray things true.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:36 AM
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4. The Rasmussen poll is going to shake them.
He's "their" guy.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:42 AM
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9. They labeled Rasmussen "liberal" yesterday
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 08:43 AM by IWantAnyDem
when the North Carolina results were published.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:37 AM
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6. I'm afraid to-- my OP got labeled "Disruptive" yesterday because
I posted a thread from there! (of course the intire point of my post was rendered irrelevant). Man, am I bitter.



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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:40 AM
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7. Battleground is a crap poll and Gallup is running behind, it will show a lead today I bet
The need to face the fact that McLiar screwed up badly. But then that would be reality and they don't understand that.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:43 AM
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10. Battleground Was The LEAST Reliable Poll In 2000
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:41 AM
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8. Well...I donned my bio-chem suit and hip waders... It's not pretty.
Below is a copy/paste of --- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2091021/posts

Rasmussen 9/26/08: Obama 50% McCain 45%
Rasmussen Daily Tracking ^

Posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:29:14 AM by CatOwner

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Barack Obama attracting 50% of the vote while John McCain earns 45%. This is Obama’s biggest lead since his convention bounce peaked with a six-point advantage. In fact, on only two days since clinching the Democratic nomination in early June has Obama enjoyed a lead bigger than he has today.


(Excerpt) Read more at rasmussenreports.com ...


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Ouch!

1 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:29:14 AM by CatOwner
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I don’t like Rasmussen today. :(



2 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:31:01 AM by what_not2007 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." MTwain)
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Going the other way from Gallup.



3 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:31:12 AM by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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Going the other way from Gallup.



4 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:31:49 AM by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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Weird. Did he readjust the party affiliations again?



5 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:32:09 AM by perfect_rovian_storm (Palin 2008 (oh yeah, and McCain too))
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Ouch is right! But Rasmusssen polls at Dems 39% and Reps 33%. The 2004 presidential election had a turnout of Dems 37% and Reps 37%.



6 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:32:39 AM by avacado (Obama's response to a crisis: "Call me if you need me...")
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wow



7 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:32:39 AM by GoCards
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not matter how anyone wants to cut it, or claim this is BS, or say Raz is on drugs, etc- this is not good news at all...



8 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:32:45 AM by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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The same Rassmussen that has Obambi leading by 2 points in North Carolina. Yeah right.



9 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:34:03 AM by Abbeville Conservative (Sarah Palin, spaying and neutering the animals on the angry left)
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and if McCain does not show up at the debate tonight the numbers will only get worse...



10 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:34:13 AM by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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Ah, so NOW Gallup has it even, battleground has McCain ahead and Ras has Obama surging. I give up, there is like NO correlation between these polls at all now.



11 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:34:16 AM by jpf
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As more people make up their minds, they are breaking for Obama.
Thanks to the endless media barrage against McCain/Palin, and especially against Palin.

The people are, apparently, more easily duped this election cycle than last.

Let us not forget what God said to Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel 4:17.


The Most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He will and setteth up over it the basest of men.



12 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:34:19 AM by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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Forget daily polls they mean nothing.



13 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:34:53 AM by screaminsunshine
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Obama would have had to get an absolutely HUGE day yesterday. Of course, early on the news was all reporting the Obama talking point that John McCain is trying to bring down the financial system.

I find this highly dubious. There is another angle no one is talking about. McCain is running an anti-media campaign. Conservatives are more irate at the media establishment now than they have ever been. Hang-up rates for conservative Republicans on these polls simply must be outpacing liberal Democrats by a huge margin making the polls unreliable.



14 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:35:01 AM by Thane_Banquo (You can put lipstick on a donkey, but it's still just a jackass.)
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Do they factor in the 18% undecided?



15 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:35:14 AM by jackv (Just shakin' my head...)
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He will show. THe numbers are depressing to say the least.



16 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:35:17 AM by GoCards
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Please Ras. predicted a nine point win for Bush in 2000, but what the hey you can tax your blodd pressure and be a poll junkie.



17 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:36:14 AM by DallasBiff
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and if McCain does not show up at the debate tonight the numbers will only get worse...
Agreed


18 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:36:36 AM by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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"As more people make up their minds,..."

I don't see where you get people are "making up their minds". These polls are all over the place from day to day.

19 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:36:46 AM by j_k_l
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Well, just looking for trends, this one is going the opposite way of all of the others, so I’d be more inclined to see this poll as an outlier anyway.

Plus, we know that Ras has gone insane with his weighting. His state polls are out of whack with everyone else too.



20 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:36:58 AM by perfect_rovian_storm (Palin 2008 (oh yeah, and McCain too))
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outlier

rasmussen surge is a week behind gallup.



21 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:37:17 AM by housedeep
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I cannot believe how many stupid people there are in the U.S.. You have to be a mental case to vote for a disguised Muslim who is as dumb as a post and tells lies without any effort at all.



22 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:37:42 AM by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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I don't know about the rest of the country, but here in Indy I'm seeing 5 Obama ads to each McCain ad. One of the ads shows a lady saying she was paid 40% less than men doing the same work. If Obama ever read the research on wage differentials (e.g., work by Herb Parnes, Belton Fleisher, and others) he would understand why they exist. The GOP could also turn that ad around and point to Dems who supported the same bill they say McCain supported. Similar ads could be put out by the GOP. What I'm hoping I'm seeing is a relative few ads now, storing up for an avalanche of ads in the two weeks before the election.

23 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:38:27 AM by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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I ten d to agree with ytou but Zogby, Gallup and the Battleground Tracking Poll have all been showing movement to McCain this week. rasmussen is the only fly in the ointment..his state polling looks a little fishy too. I wonder what’s up.



24 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:38:33 AM by pgkdan
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The people are, apparently, more easily duped this election cycle than last
That's the case EVERY year. People are too lazy to find out the facts. They'd rather tune in at 6:30pm and let Brian Williams et al TELL they how to feel.


25 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:38:47 AM by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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Well, I guess that’s it then. I’ll tell all of my Republican friends to stay home and not vote because a sampling of 500 people or so say McCain/Palin won’t win. *SMIRK*



26 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:39:04 AM by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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This is BS, 80% against the bailout
I a telling you John Zogby does real polling

See who Rush uses and who got the Presidential races right.


27 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:39:10 AM by scooby321 (Cai)
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This is not good news at all. Damn.
Let's hope McCain does well in the debate. If not, it's hello socialism.

Card Check

Nationalized Health Care

Higher taxes

Higher electricity prices

But hey, if Obama does everything he wants (and the Senate and house will go along, I'm sure), that'll at least solve the immigration crisis we're having. After our economy tanks, a lot of immigrants may decide they'll just go back to Mexico or Guatemala or wherever they came from.


28 posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:39:35 AM by Koblenz (The Dem Platform, condensed: 1. Tax and Spend. 2. Cut and Run. 3. Man on Man)
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Let’s face it, folks. No matter what they say, these polls are +/- 5 to 10% on any given day.

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Youphemism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:48 AM
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12. Quote of the week:"The people are, apparently, more easily duped this election cycle than last."

So we were duped in the last election. If admitting it really is the first step, maybe there's hope for some of these guys.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:50 AM
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14. Last I saw, they had decided Barack was Hitler......
..... typical day in Freeperland.
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Diana Prince Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:52 AM
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15. Those heathen, socialist liberals...
We need more god fearin' people like Palin. It's Clintons fault we are in this mess.

This would be my guess.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:58 AM
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16. My favorite - Palin "won" the interview with Couric

That one nearly gave me a hernia. I had never before realized that an interview was a contest against the interviewer.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 03:21 PM
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19. Utter delusion. Exhibit A: "Zogby Predicting a McCain Landslide?"
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