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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:18 AM
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MCCAIN'S PAIN IN SPAIN.... (w/audio and list of other foreign policy incoherencies) -- Updated
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 11:46 AM by ProSense
MCCAIN'S PAIN IN SPAIN.... Following up on an earlier item, the English-language version of John McCain's interview with El Pais is now available -- TPM was kind enough to put it in this YouTube version -- and listening to the audio makes it pretty clear that McCain was just hopelessly confused. (Aravosis posted a transcript of the relevant portion.)

(Video: http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_09/014775.php">McCain Answers Question on Spain, Zapatero)

The reporter kept trying to help him focus, explaining that she was referring specifically to Spain, but McCain kept talking about "leaders in the hemisphere." Still hoping to help McCain with his obvious confusion, she said, "OK, but I'm talking about Europe -- the president of Spain, would you meet with him?" McCain dodged the question, saying only, "I will reunite with any leader that has the same principles and philosophy that we do: human rights, democracy, and liberty. And I will confront those that don't."

McCain eventually said, "Honestly, I have to analyze our relationships, situations, and priorities" -- as if Spain, a long-time U.S. ally and NATO member, might not enjoy strong ties with a McCain administration. Yglesias responded, "You don't expect a presidential candidate to have an elaborate 'Spain policy' or anything, but Spain is a fellow democracy, a member of NATO and the EU, etc. It would be very strange for the United States to have anything other than a close relationship with Spain."

McCain's embarrassing confusion is already pretty major news in Spain today, but at this point, the only major U.S. outlets who've picked up on this are the online sections of Time and the Washington Post.

Forgetting Zapetero's name is almost forgivable, though hard to explain for a candidate who claims to be an expert in foreign policy. But the interviewer kept using the word "Spain." She even gave him a big hint with the word "Europe."

Let's also not lose sight of the broader pattern. McCain thinks the recent conflict between Russia and Georgia was "the first probably serious crisis internationally since the end of the Cold War." He thinks Iraq and Pakistan share a border. He believes Czechoslovakia is still a country. He's been confused about the difference between Sudan and Somalia. He's been confused about whether he wants more U.S. troops in Afghanistan, more NATO troops in Afghanistan, or both. He's been confused about how many U.S. troops are in Iraq. He's been confused about whether the U.S. can maintain a long-term presence in Iraq. He's been confused about Iran's relationship with al Qaeda. He's been confused about the difference between Sunni and Shi'ia. McCain, following a recent trip to Germany, even referred to "President Putin of Germany." All of this incoherence on his signature issue.

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Update

Scheunemann: McCain was not confused, he simply refuses to meet with Spanish Prime Minister:

John McCain’s foreign policy adviser Randy Scheunemann is defending his boss’s inexplicable and illogical answer in response to a question about whether he would agree to meet with the Spanish Prime Minister José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero. McCain appeared not to know that Zapatero is the leader of Spain when answering the question from an interviewer earlier this week. Listen here:


Something is wrong with McCain.





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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:21 AM
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1. Listening to the interview, he seems distracted. I think he was texting on his Blackberry
Or playing Tetris on his Nintendo
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:22 AM
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2. Holy Moly, he sounds confused or stoned!
McPow hadn't a clue as to what was being asked of him, just kept repeating the same lines over and over...

Dementia.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:25 AM
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5. Initially I thougt this was a "meh" story, however the interviewer made it
VERY APPARENT she was referring to "Spain's" President and used the word Spain explicitly. He just acted like he didn't know what the fuck she was saying to him.

He seemed very confused, almost sedated.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:08 PM
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16. That was my initial response, no biggie, he just didn't understand, but
It was pretty clear he had NO CLUE as to what he was being asked.

I understood the question, even through the Spanish accent. The questioner spoke English quite well enough to be understood clearly.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:25 AM
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6. "The reporter kept trying to help him focus"
What the hell is that about?


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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:22 AM
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3. OMG! On the same audio clip he says "I know the issues, I know the leaders"
What a fucking idiot.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:24 AM
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4. The pain from Spain falls mainly on McCain. nt
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:26 AM
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7. Oooof!
:spray:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:26 AM
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8. LOL! n/t
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:28 AM
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9. Let me guess. MSM has let him slide on this? Unreal
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:28 AM
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10. This story MUST get play in the MSM. If this is an example of his thinking
he is NOT qualified to be President. The interviewer gave him at least 3 of 4 chances to save himself and he was absolutely clueless.

Knock me over with a feather.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:49 AM
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14. Yup,
something is wrong.

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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:33 AM
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11. we should be truly concerned about
his grip on reality . Personally, it scares me. He can no longer be looked at as a doddering old fool . HE is a dangerous old fool.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:40 AM
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12. OUCH! Listening to that exchange was much more painful than reading
about it. He was extremely confused even after the reporter REPEATEDLY tried to clarify that she was talking about the prime minister of Spain.

I knew who Zapatero was because he was in the news so much leading up to his election in 2004. Remember the Madrid train bombings? How could McCain possibly confuse him especially after the reporter kept clarifying Spain and Europe?

OMG.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:43 AM
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13. This REALLY needs more media attention.
A presidential candidate who doesn't know a NATO ally's prime minister, and seems confused about the location and political position of a European country? Are you fucking kidding me?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:54 AM
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15. "McCain has further covered himself with egg...in an excruciatingly embarrassing interview"

Where’s Señora Palin When You Need Her?

September 18th, 2008
By SHAUN MULLEN, TMV Columnist



John McCain has further covered himself with egg — or in this case huevo — in an excruciatingly embarrassing interview with a reporter for a Spanish newspaper in which it was revealed that he didn’t appear to know that Spain is in Europe, or that the leader of Spain is a guy named Zapatero.
Anyhow, the reporter said:

“Senator, finally, let’s talk about Spain. If you’re elected president, would you invite President Zapatero to meet with you in the White House?”

McCain then launched into an answer about America’s friends and America’s enemies and then talked about Mexico. Did he think that the reporter was talking about the Zapatista guerrilla group in Mexico? Or perhaps he was still high on his nightly dose of Ambien.

More here if you dare.





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