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skjpm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 12:20 AM
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What would it feel like to be undecided?
I'm trying to imagine the circumstances in which I would be undecided. I can't. Who are these people? What more do they need to know?
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iwantmycountryback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 12:21 AM
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1. It's hard to give myself their pysche
I don't know how much more people need to be convinced of how awful Bush is. It is literally beyond me that his approval rating is not in the 20's.
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 12:24 AM
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2. In a coma?
How else would you be so uninformed?

Of course, the publicans are WILLFULLY IGNORANT, so they are actually in awareness deficit.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 12:24 AM
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3. You know what though the undecideds have to be 2000 Bush supporters
and now this time around they're not so sure. I bet they are RINO's or moderate Republicans or indies that for some reason voted Bush in 2000.

I still believe NO ONE who voted for Gore in 2000 is thinking "well gee ya know Bush actually did a good job here for the last 4 years"
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 12:26 AM
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4. they see all the bad bush has done
dont know anything about kerry only what they are fed so not confident there and wanting to support the troops in war and afraid of terrorists
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skjpm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 12:27 AM
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5. bush or kerry, bush or kerry. . .
Nope--I just don't see a tossup there. I'm sitting here trying to think of an issue that would keep me undecided, but there just isn't any.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 12:27 AM
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6. Comatose?
Edited on Wed Sep-01-04 12:29 AM by WakeMeUp
:shrug:

On edit: previous post beat mine by a couple minutes. That's what happens when you have to suddenly go the the powder room! I know, TMI!
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 12:28 AM
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7. America's Undecided Voter
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 12:31 AM
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8. Pervasive, all-emcompassing ignorance and lack of curiousity
could explain it.
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abrock Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 12:35 AM
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9. Here is why:
Republicans and Republican-leaners do not CARE what the other side has to say. Period. When the dems win, they win because they got a huge democratic base out and the INDs helped out, the repubs almost never vote democratic. It doesn't work the other way, though. Dems quite often vote Republican if their candidate is simply far superior. This has not happened in a long time though, 84 probably being the last time.
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homerthompson Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 12:42 AM
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10. i was undecided until 2 months after 2000
i was an apathetic voter, because i never spent the time to pay attention. working 8 hours a day, plus the hour and a half for round trip driving time, makes me too frigging tired to follow politics. then after work and on weekends, i'm trying to go out and enjoy life a little, to help me survive the next days of work.
all the while, the only politics that i knew about, was stuff that floated towards me... a glance at a headline here, a talking point on networks there.
i started doing my research, because i discovered that *'s presidency was false - all i knew about it was the fact that 5 supreme court justices voted him in. that led me to an incredible path of political discovery, where i researched both sides of the issues.
eventually i discovered that rethuglicans consistently distort the truth. i found this out when i would watch actual video footage of something, and then later see a rethug put some spin on it and totally lie. that sold me right away... i figured, if you can't determine the honesty or benefit of a group's particular goals, then at least you can analyze HOW they achieve their goals. if they play fair and honest, then that says something. if they play dirty, and resort to cheating and lying, then right away i know their goals are devious as well. the daily show is a good example, they catch those lies alot that way, by showing the actual video and then the rethug trying to spin it.
anyhoo, long story short, undecideds are that because they don't have the time to look into the subject matter. they're too busy scratching to survive, and they only have time to remember a few things here and there. that's why the rethug talking points work so well, as well as their smear attacks.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 12:54 AM
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11. You're not alone and welcome on board!
Many of us were enjoying life in the 90s....raising kids, working, watching that market go up, up, up. I voted Gore, but I just assumed everyone would look at the Clinton/Gore record and vote peace and prosperity. Sadly, the Clinton Inquisition did a number on Gore, as did nader. But he still one...and they stole it anyway. So I will never ever trust a Republican again. They are the antithesis of Americanism. Liars, cheats, greedy hypocrites. They have selected a team, Bush/Cheney that epitomizes those anti-virtues.

And people better realize that this is our last chance to fix this country. If they get 4 more years, I think we've lost this country.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 12:58 AM
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13. BTW
who did you end up voting for last time?

Anyways, welcome to DU. And I like your screen name. I'm a Simpsons fan also. That episode with the witness protection program was funny.
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homerthompson Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 07:32 PM
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14. thank you, glad to be amongst those who have left the matrix...
and dammit, you discovered my secret identity. :)
anyways, i didn't vote last time. i didn't understand politics well enough to care. at the time, i was under the impression that the u.s. government has ALL Americans' best interests in mind, and thus didn't see the need to vote. my ignorance told me that if both guys will do what's best for ALL Americans, then who cares which one gets in?
boy was i mistaken. it took a lot of research, after seeing 5 Americans decide who's president, to find out the historical difference of the parties, their track records, and which Americans benefit when a certain party is in the whitehouse. and other tidbits, like how lobbying is actually legalized bribery.
too bad the rino's aren't doing their research.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 12:58 AM
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12. I heard about an acquaintance of mine whom I always thought was a
moderate Democrat. Now she's saying, "Oh, these Swiftboat ads. ... now I just don't know WHAT to think about John Kerry."

She's undecided because she's listening to Lies and Crap.

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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 07:46 PM
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15. The undecided voters are people who know that Bush should be fired
but for one reason or another are unsure about Kerry. The same thing happened in 1980 when many voters thought Carter deserved to be fired but they were uncomfortable or uncertain about the thought of Reagan as president. That changed with the debates when Reagan came across to these people as capable of being president. I think Kerry will have the same opportunity in the debates, but he has a much smaller number of undecided voters to win over.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 08:00 PM
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16. A lot of Undecideds are
people who don t like either candidate, so they cannot decide whether to pick the lesser of two evils, or stay home.

Indies are not ALWAYS uninformed dunces...they usually vote the person, not party.

A lot of them do not have an allegiance to either party...they see both as corrupt.

These were Ross Perot voters; they are tired of politics as usual.
They are reform minded, but their party was highjacked.

Not everyone agrees with Repubs or Dems; it doesn t make them dumb.
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