The GOP will never overturn Roe v Wade

[mdmc]

The GOP knows that sex sells, sex is popular, and to fight against sex is a losing battle. The GOP gets much more mileage from abortion then we do. They will never lose their cash cow.

[cynatnite]

1. Scalia, Roberts and Alito...

Picked because they WILL overturn Roe vs Wade when given the chance.

[mdmc]

13. souter was a bush pick

GHWB

[Faygo Kid]

19. Fluke. Not much to hang your hat on.

Not much at all. In fact, nothing.

[cynatnite]

25. So you're saying they won't overturn it given the chance? n/t

[Faygo Kid]

42. No, I'm saying I meant to respond to mdmc, and screwed up.

Oops.

[mdmc]

46. if they overturn roe-wade they will face a backlash

sex sells and trumps prudes every time.
most Americans don't vote. This "victory" by the GOP would change that, in the same way a military draft would get the youth vote out.

Overturning Roe would be the greatest gift to liberals that the cons could ever give us.

[YOY]

2. Don't be so sure...

because once they overturn it...they'll love to protect the change.

[Kerrytravelers]

3. Exactly. They would lose one of their wedge issues and donation getter.

But they will make it harder and harder to get and begin the process of criminalizing it.

[anonymous171]

4. I've often wondered what would happen to the GOP's coalition if they managed to overturn Roe v Wade

[cynatnite]

6. Porn, dildos, gays...it won't stop n/t

[Dissent Is Patriotic]

5. You may be right but I am NOT willing to take the chance. n/t

[PermanentRevolution]

7. It's their main rallying cry to motivate the fundies

If it were to actually get overturned, they lose that. The trick they've been playing for years is to give the appearance that it's just on the verge of being overturned, but the nasty godless Democrats won't let it happen. I agree that they have nothing to gain from actually going through with it. The base wants it, but the real heart of the GOP - the big-money corporatists who actually run things - could care less.

[silverweb]

8. Sure they would.

It won't end the battle, it will just break it up into 50 smaller battles.

Once abortion law leaves the federal level and reverts back to the individual states, the reTHUGs will continue fundraising and publicizing each state's fight, interfering in liberal states' decisions exactly the way they're now flooding California to overturn the new law allowing gay marriage.

Overturning Roe v Wade will change nothing in the reTHUG agenda. They'd hail it as a victory, then immediately redouble their campaign to stamp out reproductive choice in each and every state.

[PlanetBev]

11. You hit it on the nail, my friend

I think about nine states, including mine, have the right to choose written in the state constitution. The other states are sitting ducks.

[kestrel91316]

37. None of the 50 states are safe. Those with abortion rights in their

constitutions will see an unrelenting effort to change their constitutions.

[silverweb]

41. Even those nine wouldn't be safe.

You can bet your bottom dollar that they'd be trying to amend those state constitutions.

They'd be after all 50 states.

[JVS]

20. righto!

[Median Democrat]

9. Roe v. Wade Is Just The First Step...

Roe v. Wade would just allow states to regulate or ban abortion. The next logical step is to pass a federal law to ban abortion nationwide. There will always be freedoms out there that the evangelical right can strive to limit.

[PlanetBev]

10. I wish people would stop saying this

The Supreme Court is now one vote away from overturning Roe v Wade. That one vote is Justice John Paul Stevens, 88 years old. Plus, McCain would likely have two more openings later on.

Roe v. Wade was very close to being overturned in 1992. The only thing that saved it was Justice Kennedy changed his mind at the last moment.

It's hanging by a thread.

[mdmc]

16. IF it is overturned, there would be a "promiscuous" lashback

They KNOW that sex is popular. Being against sex, or sexual freedom, will be a loser for them big time. Keeping abortion legal gives their side a rallying cry.

[McCamy Taylor]

23. They say it because McCain wants it said on progressive threads.

[theothersnippywshrub]

12. Reversing the decision in Roe v. Wade is only one step in the anti-abortion agenda.

If Roe is reversed, the GOP will immediately begin a national campaign to establish that a fetus has all of the legal rights of any person. They also will wage 50 state campaigns to criminalize or limit abortion. And then 50 state campaigns to limit access to birth control methods. If Roe is reversed, the GOP will still milk the issue for another 50 years.

[PlanetBev]

26. Exactly right

I'm fifty-seven years old. If I have another thirty years, let me guarantee you that they will still be fighting over this when I take my dirt nap.

[AndyTiedye]

14. Yes They Will!

Then they can use state-by-state abortion bans to mobilize their base.
They can push for a Federal ban.
They can go after birth control by claiming that birth control is abortion (they are already doing this).
They can always take away more of our freedoms to please the Fundies!

[me b zola]

15. Well I'm glad that it's not your uterus up for grabs

Seriously. I'm done with my child bearing years, but I have 3 grand daughters and I don't appreciate anyone with such a caviler attitude about their health care.

[mdmc]

21. I support privacy (the grounds which keep abortion legal)

The GOP know that overturning this would
1. give up their big rallying point.
2. piss of the libertarians.
3. rally promiscuous Americans against them.

When the fight is between pro-sex and anti-sex, the pro sex side will always win. Sex sells. Prudes lose.

[me b zola]

27. I believe you.

But please don't be so caviler with your opinion that the rw won't over turn Roe v Wade. It means too much to assume so much.

[Skidmore]

17. I'm going to make certain they don't have the chance to.

[Crunchy Frog]

18. One more Supreme Court justice.

It will still be a useful political football for them even after Roe v Wade is reversed. People shouldn't kid themselves.

[McCamy Taylor]

22. This is a McCain/Palin talking point. What is it doing at DU?

They will do overturn it, because they can then use the issue to gain control of state legislatures as they begin to pass anti-abortion laws in every red state in the country. And fight to keep those states red.

One of the main challenges that McCain/Palin face right now is that they must lie to the majority of the people and convince them that they were only lying when they promised to over turn Roe V. Wade at the convention.

There is a reason Obama told us not to accuse McCain of political posturing on issues like abortion.

And yet, every few days, someone at DU posts a thread that Democrats are suppose to read that says (in essence) Relax! McCain and Palin won't really take away your abortion rights!

[drm604]

24. That may have been the case at one time.

But the problem is that they've pushed the party farther and farther to the right; to the point that they may no longer be able to stop what they started.

[crazylikafox]

28. Bingo. They made a pact with extremists. The bill will come due.

[PlanetBev]

31. Ditto that

In 1980, the GOP made a deal with the devil when they allowed the insane fundies to swallow them up. Now, the devil must have his due. The Christian Right owns the Republican party.

[Raine]

29. Agree, it's their cash cow ... it's keeps the money & votes rolling

in by leaving it in place. They could've already overturned it but it's to their benefit to keep it so they have something to bitch about.

[cynatnite]

34. You don't think they have a laundry list?

Overturning it is just number one. Number two is porn, gay marriage and so on. That's not to mention how they'll go after every single state and push for a federal ban on abortion.

Getting rid of Roe vs Wade is just one small first step of many.

[Raine]

43. For sure they do, a definite agenda

but I think it also suits them to hold off as long as they can on Roe V Wade cause it brings in so much money. I think they'll save that one to take out till they have gone thru all the others. Their whole plan on all these issues is just terrible.

[WI_DEM]

30. don't count on that.

[bornskeptic]

32. Supreme Court Justices will do what they choose to do.

Once they get 5 Justices who want to overturn it, it will be overturned. If the Republicans in Congress decide they don't want it overturned, they are out of luck. At that point it will be too late to go back.

[Claire Beth]

33. Oh YES they WILL! n/t

[kestrel91316]

35. You must be young. You don't seem to realize Roe v Wade has not

been with us forever.

These people have made their intentions clear and anyone who disbelieves them is a fool, IMHO.

[TrogL]

36. After R v W they'll go after the LGBT community, then PDA's

'til we're back in life in the 50's where they couldn't have the sound of a toilet flushing on TV.

[liberalpress]

38. and there's "no way John Kerry can lose the 2004 election."

with GOOP there's ALWAYS a way

[PolNewf]

39. They certainly will

or they risk losing their fundie base. The fundie's are already very suspicious that they are being jerked around. McCain would have no chance for re-election if he didn't appoint a judge to overturn it.

[PaDem]

47. I disagree.........

I don't think their "fundie" base is anywhere close to jumping ship. The GOP knows that the base might exist in a state of perpetual agitation alongside the party, but they also understand that they aren't going to abandon for the Democrats.

[meow2u3]

40. It would take conservative DEMOCRATS to overturn Roe v. Wade

and not for the reasons you think.

Conservative Dems believe the entire basis of the Roe v. Wade case, and its companion case Doe v. Bolton, were based on perjury: perjury on the part of Roe herself allegedly lying about being raped; and perjury on the part of Doe's lawyers who claimed Doe wanted an abortion when in fact she was looking for a divorce and custody of her kid in Oklahoma, when the law at that time automatically gave custody to the father.

[TooRaLoo]

44. They are SURE going to try. nt

[opihimoimoi]

45. After the reverse...we will be speaking in Tongues

[Major Hogwash]

48. McCain has sworn to overturn Roe v Wade for 20 years!!

He's a lot more fanatic than maverick, bud.

[Butch350]

49. And half of GOP men would spend a fortune in child support!!