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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:39 AM
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I have a nagging feeling that Palin wasn't picked by McCain. McCain
was TOLD she WOULD be his pick. She came on too fast, slid into it too easily and BINGO, here came ANWR and the pipe line...can off-shore drilling be far behind?

I think the Neocons are so intent on getting all of this in the works, they will pull anything they can to make sure their "people" are in the WH to get it done. Who better to use for a puppet than Palin? McCain gone? Here comes Jeb or Mitt.

I wish I could get rid of the nagging feeling, as it makes me sick to my stomach because I don't think we've seen the whole picture yet.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:41 AM
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1. I'm visualizing a landslide that stops them in their tricky tracks nt
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:47 AM
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2. It's not just a nagging feeling...
Campaign insiders have been leaking this since the pick was announced. According to these sources, James Dobson kept nixing all of McCain's picks (Joementum, Tom Ridge) and insisted on Palin. McCain needed their support and, even more important, their money or this wouldn't even be a contest.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:16 AM
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3. HOW did they gain so much power?
This is getting scarier by the day. I can't even begin to think of how I'll feel the day after they elect this next American Idol. That's all it is, you know?
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:17 AM
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4. Dobson is making good and delivering the adoring fundie crowds too..
McPOW has sold his soul so many times, he's just damaged goods now. Does he really think all these people will just go away if he makes it to the White House? He's sick and delusional.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:22 AM
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5. McCain wasn't nominated for having some sort of talent for making decisions.
He's a placeholder, and so is Palin. The GOP could have put two Hostess Fruit Pies(tm) on the ticket, and the Very Serious pundits on the TV would praise the choice, and attack anyone who didn't love apple pie.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:23 AM
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6. The Council of BatShitCrazy selected Palin
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/01/who-chose-sarah-palin/


Last week, while the media focused almost obsessively on the DNC’s spectacle in Denver, the country’s most influential conservatives met quietly at a hotel in downtown Minneapolis to get to know Sarah Palin. The assembled were members of the Council for National Policy, an ultra-secretive cabal that networks wealthy right-wing donors together with top conservative operatives to plan long-term movement strategy.

CNP members have included Tony Perkins, James Dobson, Grover Norquist, Tim LaHaye and Paul Weyrich. At a secret 2000 meeting of the CNP, George W. Bush promised to nominate only pro-life judges; in 2004, then-Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist told the group, “The destiny of the nation is on the shoulders of the conservative movement.” This year, thanks to Sarah Palin’s selection, the movement may have finally aligned itself behind the campaign of John McCain.

Though Dobson and Perkins reportedly attended the recent CNP meeting in Minneapolis, a full roster of guests would be nearly impossible to require. The CNP deliberately operates below the radar, going to excessive lengths to obscure its activities. According to official CNP policy, “The media should not know when or where we meet or who takes part in our programs before or after a meeting.” Thus the CNP’s Minneapolis gathering was free of reporters. I only learned of the get-together through an online commentary by one of its attendees, top Dobson/Focus on the Family flack Tom Minnery. (Watch it here)

Minnery described the mood as CNP members watched Palin accept her selection as John McCain’s Vice Presidential pick. “I was standing in the back of a ballroom filled with largely Republicans who were hoping against hope that something would put excitement back into this campaign,” Minnery said. “And I have to tell you, that speech by Alaska Governor Sarah Palin — people were on their seats applauding, cheering, yelling… That room in Minneapolis watching on the television screen was electrified. I have not seen anything like it in a long time.”


Council of National Policy:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Council_for_National_Policy


The Council for National Policy is a secretive forum that was formed in 1981 by Tim LaHaye as a networking tool for leading US conservative political leaders, financiers and religious right activist leaders. The group, which meets three times a year, promotes "Educational conferences for national leaders in the fields of business, government, religion and academia to explore national policy alternatives. Weekly newsletters are distributed to all members to keep them apprised of member activities and public policy issues. A semi-annual journal is produced from membership meeting speeches."<1>

In 2001, ABC News reported: "The CNP describes itself as a counterweight against liberal domination of the American agenda."<2>

Others are not so kind to the organization and its motives. Mark Crispin Miller states that the CNP is a "highly secretive... theocratic organization -- what they want is basically religious rule" (A Patriot Act). Barry W. Lynn, the executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, told the New York Times about the CNP meeting ahead of the 2004 Republican National Convention, "The real crux of this is that these are the genuine leaders of the Republican Party, but they certainly aren't going to be visible on television next week."<3>

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:37 AM
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11. these people are like parasites
Edited on Wed Sep-10-08 08:42 AM by alyce douglas
anyone have RAID? and those who follow palin have cult like features.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:31 AM
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20. Is this the "highly secretive" group that met at that Grove in California, each year?
What is the group that sends out secret messages for meetings where no one is allowed to bring paper, pen, recorders, etc., and which Bush, Junior, Cheney, Rumsfeld...a whole bunch from this cabal...has to plan our future? It isn't this group, is it?

What do these guys do? Try to return to childhood and their "secret clubhouse" meetings?

How did we allow this to happen?
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:25 AM
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7. Palin was McCain's choice as much as Biden was Obama's choice.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:30 AM
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8. I find it very very disturbing. I also think they obviously did not research her enough.
They wanted a fundie and ended up with a lipsticked pig...the media is just starting to pick up on this now. All her lies are coming out now, though we picked up on the right away (troopergate, bridge to nowhere, billing the state).
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:34 AM
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9. Maybe they were counting on the infusion of $$ would buy them lots of Swiftboating
ad producing 527 action? It worked so well in previous elections. He's a maverick, he gambles enough to know that sometimes taking a huge risk can payoff handsomely.

Mccain needed his base - let me correct myself here - Mccain desperately needed the $$ that the religious
base can provide him and the RNC.

Well, that's kindof how I'm seeing it. I very well could be wrong though hehe.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:41 AM
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13. if our media was for the people I would love them if they would
link these so called religious organizations in selecting Palin for their own extreme religious agenda, only in my dreams.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:36 AM
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10. Keith explained last nite how
Uncle Karl is working for the mcinsane campaign, this has rove's fingerprints all over it.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:39 AM
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12. Palin's entire career, from mayor on, was backed and funded by the religious right--
Edited on Wed Sep-10-08 08:40 AM by wienerdoggie
that's why she rose to power so quickly. Ryan Lizza even mentioned it on Hardball. McCain didn't pick her so much as relent, in desperation and deference, to the Dobson and Norquist crowd, who met secretly to "vet" her that same week.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:42 AM
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14. I read something about Craig Ferguson...
He said something about having to turn Palin down to be on his show, well before the pick. Now, why the hell would some obscure Alaskan governor (if she was one at the time) want to be on Craig's show? Bizarre, unless you consider maybe they were trying to raise her national profile beforehand.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:46 AM
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16. That is weird. It could be that Palin has wanted to be a celebrity for
a while and was shopping herself around to the B-grade talk shows for her big "break", but it could also be the fundie GOPers trying to raise her profile long before she was officially chosen. The GOP is really trying to make a star out of her--she's the empty celebrity they bashed Obama for being, ironically.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:51 AM
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18. Indeed, very strange.
I'm glad Ferguson was smart enough to turn her down. I knew I liked him for a reason. :D
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:43 AM
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15. kick
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:50 AM
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17. Limpballs and TurdBlossom chose her as successor to
McSame when he keels over.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:52 AM
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19. This was known a while ago. Dobson chose her.
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