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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:15 AM
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Everyone posting here owes to themselves to watch this video
It's called "The Power of Nightmares", it's a BBC expose on the roots of neoconservatism and jihad

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2798679275960015727

If you haven't yet seen it, watch. If you have seen it, kick this. It's important. It will explain everything you just watched in the RN Convention.

Trust me.

Give it 20 minutes of your time:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2798679275960015727

Part 2
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6277881193659506084&hl=en

Part 3
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1433149975726132762&hl=en
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:19 AM
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1. Oh, yes -- I remember this. Thanks for posting. Bookmarked. nt
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:23 AM
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5. You're welcome
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:19 AM
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2. Bookmarked - thank you. Looking forward to watching it. nt
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:23 AM
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7. It's excellent
Thank you for watching
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:20 AM
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3. Been there, done that
If you haven't seen it do

Its BBC

Hear that OMC?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:24 AM
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8. Like you said, if you haven't seen it. Do.
Watch this.
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LeftyFingerPop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:21 AM
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4. Bookmarked. Thank you. n/t
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:25 AM
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12. There's a lot of information here
Thanks for watching. The first part is longer than 20 minutes, my mistake, but sit back and watch it all. It's worth everyone's time.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:23 AM
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6. I have a DVD copy of it that I ordered from England - it is incredibly powerful.
The producers have tried to get it played on American TV but to know avail. It's a BBC production and has played everywhere else - but even PBS or HBO won't touch it.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:26 AM
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13. Of course they won't
:hi:
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chatnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:24 AM
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9. Saw it long ago. Thank you.
:kick:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:26 AM
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14. welcome
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:24 AM
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10. Brilliant movie. Also check out The Century of the Self, also by Adam Curtis. -nt-
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:27 AM
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15. I will, thanks
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:25 AM
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11. Try this un:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:27 AM
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16. Looks good, thanks!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:28 AM
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18. "The Century of Self"
Fantastic.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:37 AM
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21. Watching now
Outstanding. Where is OUR BBC?
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:27 AM
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17. I'll recommend all 3 parts, as well.
It's not perfect, but it provides a fantastic background on the birth of militant Islam and the neo-cons.
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Sunnyshine Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:30 AM
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19. Very thought provoking and a shock to one's comprehension of world affairs.
It is must see, and time well invested to further our understanding of how to counteract their subservient version of freedom.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:34 AM
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20. Indeed it is
I hope this gets kicked after I go to bed, because it really lays it all out, and why we have to fight against the neo-cons.
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Sunnyshine Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:53 AM
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23. K&R- Sweet dreams for everyone who actively works to acquire peace and prosperity for humanity.
Goodnight.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:02 AM
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24. It might be hard to sleep after seeing these
but people should watch them anyway
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:39 AM
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22. That deserves a few recs. n/t
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Agent William Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:04 AM
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25. ...
I'm putting this on my to watch list.

Wow, BBC for the win!
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:16 AM
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29. BBC rocks
that's a shameless kick
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:08 AM
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26. K & R
This not only shows the NeoCons for what they are but it ties them to the same mentality behind the terrorist faction of radical Islam. Strong stuff.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:16 AM
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30. Yes, it's a slap in the face for some
Definitely strong stuff
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:10 AM
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27. Thanks...
bookmarking now to watch tomorrow night.

K&R
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:15 AM
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28. Kick!~
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:21 AM
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31. K&R&B
I'm watching one now, well, listening as I type.

thank you for the links
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:47 AM
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32. Much better than I expected. Part 1 is one hour.
A good perspective on Leo Strauss / Irving Kristol and Khoutub. Touches on slow dancing, lawns, Perry Mason, Sadat, Kissinger, Rumsfeld, Khomeini, Al Zwaheri, Reagan. Shows how the NeoCons deluded themselves by buying into CIA fake propaganda falsely linking the Soviet Union to terror groups.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Strauss
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Kristol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:21 PM
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33. That was one hour VERY well spent - recommended
and on to part 2 for me.

Michael Ledeen, Wolfowitz, Perle, Cheney...and "freedom on the march", Citibank in Egypt. My my and all of that when I was born...
This documentary would be nicely accompanied/complemented by a lecture of Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine.

Thanks for the pointer DS1, I neglected history in my teens but not anymore.

bmc
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:52 PM
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37. Still time to recommend!
This series gives the necessary context to 9/11 press for truth which you should see here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:42 PM
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38. And after hour three... even this long time DU reader is astounded
and challenged in his basic beliefs.
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:16 PM
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40. "the consuming self" as a way to manufacture consent...
hence, my cry "I will not be controlled by "desires"" - see my latest journal entry.

I'm really indebted to the people in this thread for strengthening my conviction of "wanting out".
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:24 PM
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34. I'll see your "Power of Nightmares" and raise you a
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:26 PM
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35. Thanks an kicking.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:28 PM
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36. bookmarking to watch later n/t
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:57 PM
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39. Kicking this so I can find it later
Thanks for recommending it.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:30 PM
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41. me too. nt
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