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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:57 PM
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Palin was offered VP-ship the day before giving birth (April '08)
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 08:20 PM by Waiting For Everyman
(I'll bet that would really annoy Romney, Pawlenty, Ridge, et.al. to know that, wouldn't it?)

I know. I've been reading stories too, about McC and Palin only meeting last February at the National Governors' Assoc. Conference in D.C. They talked, and since then his people vetted her from a distance, etc. (Only now we're not so sure about the vetting, are we?)

But there are some "loose ends" out there in various stories, lying around, which don't quite fit this week's version of the tale. Check this out:

1) pregnancy announcement:
http://www.adn.com/front/story/336402.html

"Secret's out: Palin pregnant"
SEVEN MONTHS ALONG: Even her staff was unaware that the first family was expecting a fifth child.
By WESLEY LOY, Published: March 6th, 2008 12:02 AM,
JUNEAU, AK
...
She's kept a hectic schedule in recent days, traveling last week to the National Governors Association conference in Washington, D.C., followed by a trip to Los Angeles on Monday for a Newsweek magazine conference also featuring Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano. The magazine profiled the two in its Oct. 15 "Women & Power" issue. With Palin riding extraordinarily high popularity ratings, pundits have mentioned her as a potential vice presidential candidate. But she said Wednesday night she's "not pursuing or perpetuating it," adding, "I have no desire to leave my job at all as governor."

That's where she and McC had their "get to know you talk", right? That's the version of the story we're used to. So we have the initial meeting with McC at the Governors' Coference in late February, and the Newsweek article in LA, and the pregnancy announcement within a week. And then supposedly, she knew nothing more about her chances until this past week. (Meanwhile a month ago, out of the blue TrooperGate came up, which she says she had nothing to do with - except that she was involved in it back to 2005.) But look at the next story...
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2) birth announcement:
http://www.ktuu.com/global/story.asp?s=8194634

"Welcome to Alaska, Trig Paxson Van Palin"
by Lori Tipton, Friday, April 18, 2008
ANCHORAGE, Alaska --

Gov. Sarah Palin gave birth to her fifth child at about 6:30 a.m. Friday morning.
...
Just yesterday, Palin was in Texas at a forum on energy with Texas Gov. Rick Perry and executives from four other states.

Palin was asked at the forum whether or not she would accept an offer by Republican presidential candidate John McCain to share the national ticket as vice presidential nominee. She said she would accept, according to reports from a Texas newspaper.
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More things that make you go hmmm, huh? I wonder why that VP-offer info was put there, in the birth announcement? Maybe a little truth just slipped out between the lies.

How about this one? Palin was first approached to be VP, by Rudy Guiliani for his candidacy back in October of 2007. And we know too, that she was a Buchanan supporter in the previous election. This week, Viguerie sent out a lauding email about her being McC's nominee. These little bits and pieces just seem to stand out somehow.

So Palin had been harassing her BIL since 2005 over a custody dispute with her sister, then she's approached by Guiliani for VP in October 2007, and then the offer from McC... and what I see, is her maneuvering to clean up BIL/TrooperGate and BabyGate behind the scenes, to make her VP career move. (And no, I don't think the announcement today that Bristol is pregnant clears up all the facts that don't make sense - we're looking at a tip of the iceberg, what's underwater remains to be seen.)

You know, I'm getting the distinct impression that this has been planned for a long while? I think this whole "moderate" show by McCain was just that... bunk, from the gitgo. I think this whole hijacking of the Repub ticket by the Palin-crazies this time was planned - at least back to last Fall. It's like this way they get Huckabee, but much easier, and with a nice moderate veneer to it. Know what I mean? Ever since McCain won the nomination, I've been thinking that the real President was going to be whoever they all (probably the 4 "energy executives") chose for VP (and no, I don't think it was McC's choice, since Palin's arrival this has all become too unanimous and neat). The only ones unhappy, are the ones they supposedly wanted to appeal to - the independents and moderates. This is a Family, CNP, CUFI party-putsche as I see it. And now, who knows if there'll even be a convention this year. (And yet for all that, I think we can take them this time... maybe even in a landslide, who knows.)

But now the good news... Palin comes with her downfall built-in - if it's used right.

They call her a "principled conservative", and yet she has BabyGate.

They call her a "reformer", and yet she's under an ethics investigation for TrooperGate.

They call her a "maverick", and yet she's a hardcore by-the-book ideologue. (A/G, Joel's Army, too).

Even Maria Bartiromo yesterday was gushing about her expertise on energy (that's supposedly going to be built into her "claim to fame" going forward), and yet she endorsed Obama's energy plan in a press release.

Her achievements: 1) the Bridge to Nowhere earmark, already debunked; 2) reform of corruption, done by the FBI & IRS not her; and 3) her popularity, already down 20 points, comes from oil surplus checks to each citizen, and a surplus economy. What achievements? Where are they?

Did I miss anything? Isn't that a game-plan? Or maybe I'm wrong.

Now about this "two versions of the vetting" overlapping with BabyGate. I don't know what's up, but something's not fitting together about it since all the whole truth isn't on the table yet. Truth isn't a smear. We have no reason to fear it, or be ashamed of it. Dems didn't invent this BabyGate thing or Palin's other problems - they already existed in Alaska. They're part of her baggage, and it's up to her to explain it. It's up to us, to see that she does. And find the pieces she refuses to. That's our part, that we can do. Some of it anyway. We aren't as limited as the campaign is, in some ways.

Just a thought.

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Palin press release on Obama's energy plan
http://www.votesmart.org/speech_detail.php?sc_id=399654&keyword=&phrase=&contain=

Bridge to Nowhere
http://www.adn.com/sarahpalin/story/511471.html

2005 Roots of TrooperGate (evidence transcripts)
http://www.today.com/external.php?url=http://divasblueoasis.blogspot.com/2008/07/press-conference-and-huge-stack-o.html&reffurl=http://www.today.com/view/the-press-conference-and-the-huge-stack-o-papers/id-2394917/

TrooperGate
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/palin_probe_could_mean_election.php
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/29/AR2008082903598.html?sid=ST2008083000375&sub=AR&s_pos=
Republican presidential candidate John McCain's running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, is an ethics reformer under an ethics investigation...
John Cyr, chief of the troopers' union, said he was "shocked and disappointed" at McCain's selection of Palin. "It goes well beyond the fact that she is under a cloud of ethics investigations. She's fired the only commissioner who dared to stand up and say we need to do more to make Alaska safe."

BabyGate (for what remains of it, we'll see)
http://community.adn.com/node/130178
http://www.examiner.com/x-221-Seattle-People-Examiner~topic17948-sarah-palin
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-69834
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/29/17933/7330/417/579267
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bart-motes/palin-baby-shocker_b_122813.html
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/things-that-mak.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4647965.ece

Vetting
http://www.adn.com/news/politics/story/510249.html
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_08/014492.php
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/30/AR2008083002377.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/31/mccain-camp-didnt-search_n_122823.html

What McC didn't know
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200808u/mccain-palin
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/the_palin_meltdown_in_slomo.php#comments

Repubs and Alaskans on Palin
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_08/014478.php
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_08/014477.php
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=a1uiw5Tqp4EM&refer=home

Alaskan Blogs
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/
http://www.andrewhalcro.com/

Guiliani Offer
http://www.observer.com/2008/politics/2007-sarah-palin-being-rudys-v-p
http://monocle.com/sections/affairs/Magazine-Articles/Not-for-hire---Alaska/
Alaska's youngest governor, Sarah Palin, is taking US politics by storm. Her anti-corruption drives have found astonishing success - her approval rating is at 90 per cent. Now Rudy Giuliani is rumoured to want her as his presidential running mate.

Viguerie email
http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/republican-party/22237/conservative-pioneer-viguerie-palin-is-perfect-vice-presidential-pick/

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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:20 PM
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1. Deserves a kick. Too much great stuff to ignore. n/t
:kick: & R!!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:39 PM
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2. She's your typical GOP fraud.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:35 PM
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3. nice work...
and in the latest--she endorsed ron paul several months ago and she was part of the Alaska independence movement...abc and rachel maddow reported on this today.

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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:40 PM
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4. Told my husband about all this and all he could say was " you've got to be sh*ttin me?"
No babes, wish I was.

:wtf:
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MsLeopard Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:46 PM
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5. Kick to the top, because it's important
Very good information here - thank you for posting.:hi:
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