Do you appreciate HRC enough to help?

[Spiffarino]

I'm a proud Obama supporter who was utterly blown away tonight. There is no doubt Hillary did the job and did it well. But what she did went way beyond what was needed. It wasn't just a "home run" or the "speech of the Convention."

Hillary Clinton may have just single-handedly made the Presidency of the United States Barack Obama's to lose.

A poster in another forum made a great suggestion on how to reward her, and I took him up on it. I just sent a few bucks toward retiring her campaign debt. And it felt really good.

If you can swing it in this horrible Bush/McCain economy, please show Hillary Clinton some love for bringing something to the Democratic party it hasn't had in 12 years:

UNITY!

[Booster]

1. I already did - I would have paid a lot more to see that speech

in person, but I sent what I could. Hope everybody else does too.

[DeepBlueC]

2. We think alike

She deserves some help from us. A few bucks from a lot of people will go a long way, as Obama has demonstrated.

[truthN08]

3. I do

I have always been an Obama supporter but tonight a bit of my heart belongs to Hillary too. I donated to her as soon as I saw her speech. I think and hope that in the morning we are all one big happy democratic party.

[Beacool]

4. Thank you!!

Some of us are maxed out.

:hi:

[Spiffarino]

6. Don't worry

I sent a couple extra for you...about twice what I donated to Obama this month. :D:thumbsup:

Of course, when it's all contributed Barack will come out ahead, but Hill's gonna get hers in 2016.

:hug:

[Beacool]

34. Thanks for saying that!!!

:pals:

[TTUBatfan2008]

5. I would if I could...

without fearing that I'll get fired from my job by writing my employer information. I'm afraid they will find out I donated to a Democrat and fire me for "under performance." I haven't donated to Obama's campaign since I graduated college in May.

[Spiffarino]

9. I don't think it gets reported if it's under $200

And I've only donated that much one time, to John Edwards.

And boy, do I want that back.

[TTUBatfan2008]

11. Hillary's site says you can put in "none"...

I wonder what would happen if I did that? Can you get in trouble for something like that?

[Spiffarino]

15. I doubt it

But it wouldn't do any good and would probably only count as snark. And that is something that should be in very short supply after her stirring endorsement of the Democratic ticket.

[TTUBatfan2008]

18. What do you mean?

I'm wanting to donate to her but I don't want my right wing employers to fire me. Not trying to snark anyone.

[Spiffarino]

20. Nothing

I just think if somebody were to donate "$0" it would be taken as an insult by the campaign.

As for you, it's apparent right here and now that your heart is in the right place, so :hug:

[TTUBatfan2008]

22. I'm not donating $0...

I mean there is a thing where you can put in "not employed." What I was trying to ask is can I get in trouble for saying I'm not employed when I really am?

[Spiffarino]

24. Oh man...

I'm so sorry. I totally misunderstood. :dunce:

[TTUBatfan2008]

28. Well looking at it I now realize I wasn't very clear what I meant...

but I was just directly responding to your comment about the employment thing. Anyway, I think I'm going to give it a shot both on Hillary's site and Obama's. Hopefully I won't get in trouble. I've only given $25 to a politician in my life and that was Obama earlier this year. I'll give $25 to her tonight and if Bill can jump on board and become a strong surrogate of us, I will make another donation. I want to give around $50 to Obama but I think I might wait a while for when it's closer to the election and I can have a bigger impact.

[Spiffarino]

30. In that case

:yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock:
:yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock:
:yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock::yourock:

[TTUBatfan2008]

33. Just donated the $25...

:)

[Spiffarino]

36. !!

:toast: :party: :toast: :thumbsup: :kick: :hug: :pals:

[roguevalley]

46. I can't. I'm retired and barely getting along for now. I wish all well

though.

RV, pissed at being so strapped.

[Spiffarino]

51. Plug on

Keep doing what you have to do to get by. We'll get your back.

[NYC_SKP]

16. It would violate your constitutional rights.

Your contribution is your personal business, unless you are employed by a lobbyist I don't think there is a problem in contributing.

How is it that your employer would find out, do you think?

[Spiffarino]

17. Contributions to political campaigns are a matter of public record

That's how they keep corporations from sneaking money to their friends. As if that were actually working. :eyes:

[NYC_SKP]

29. even $5 contributions for example?

Ah well, just trying to help.

I'd be really surprised if an employer tracked down their employees contributions, hmmm, maybe Wal Mart would.

[Spiffarino]

32. You KNOW Wallyworld would.

I'd love tell the union-busting creeps what I think of them, but I refuse to set foot in their stores.

What a conundrum.

[democrattotheend]

54. I went through this too

I work at a labor union that was neutral in the primaries, so when I donated to Obama I just put "Labor Organization" as my employer. I doubt your employer actually searches FEC data by name to see who you are giving to, so you should be safe if you don't put the name of the employer. Plus, I believe it would be illegal for them to fire you for donating to a political candidate. Isn't that covered by freedom of association in the 1st amendment?

[Colobo]

7. I'll give her $20.

[Spiffarino]

10. .

:yourock:
:yourock:
:yourock:
:yourock:
:yourock:
:yourock:
:yourock:

[tigervalentine]

8. Isn't it too late?

Didn't the debts have to be repaid before the convention started?

She was great. Would be happy to contribute.

[girl_interrupted]

12. Just made a donation to Hillary Too! K&R

[Spiffarino]

14. !

:dem: :bounce: :grouphug:

[Spiffarino]

13. Not that I'm aware

My understanding is you can contribute as long as the account's open.

Hey...anybody around here who knows da rulz, please pipe in!

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

40. She had until the convention to re-pay herself

From NPR's site


The 2002 McCain-Feingold campaign finance law, however, pushes her the other way — setting no deadline for paying creditors but giving her only until the August convention to repay herself. After that, all but $250,000 of her $11.4 million in loans would automatically be converted into unrecoverable campaign contributions. The Millionaires Amendment in McCain-Feingold sets that deadline to prevent self-financing candidates from collecting and pocketing contributions years after their campaigns have folded.

Edited because I had misrememberd what I heard

[intheozone]

19. I just did too! I hope she gets a ton of contributions tonight. nt

[Spiffarino]

21. It would be awesome

Can you imagine the headlines tomorrow if donations to HRC start pouring in from grateful Obama supporters!? Faux Noise would go frickin' nuts!

[Spiffarino]

35. WOOT!

:toast: :party: :toast: :kick: :hug: :applause:

[Tesibria]

23. I'm waiting for Bill ...

As I wrote to them (and I'm just OH so sure that they read it ... not) ... I'll be happy to send $1K to help her pay off her debt IF both she and Bill demonstrate - in ways I can see, not through spokespeople and/or written statements, that they're behind Obama/the Democratic Ticket this week.

FIRST - I thought her speech was TERRIFIC.

SECOND - I'm confused. Is it really MSM (including MSNBC, as well as at least some of the blogs) "blowing" things out of porportion -- or is there "off camera" real bad stuff going on? (See, e.g., http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/27/opinion/27dowd.html -- I mean, Maureen's nonlove of the Clintons has been plain to see. But this column isn't JUST anti-Clinton .. it's anti-Democratic Convention. How TRUE is it? Making me crazy).

That being said, again, I thought her speech was great, and ... will be sending something to her just for that.

Bill still has to earn his, tho. Sorry.

[Spiffarino]

26. If Bubba does as well as his better half

...I'm doubling mine.

:D:thumbsup:

[RB TexLa]

25. I've long ago run out of "friends" to help donate to her.

[nevergiveup]

27. OMG

If someone several months ago had said I would be contributing to Hillary I would have laughed all night. I just sent her $25. I am still in shock over her speech. It was truly amazing.

[Spiffarino]

31. Thank you

You just made me laugh really loud. I was thinking the same thing!!

Of course, now Hill's my imaginary girlfriend.

[Erin Elizabeth]

37. You know.

That's not a bad idea. And I just got paid.

Thanks for this thread. I agree with you, totally.

[DevonRex]

38. I'm trying to see what I can budget. But I definitely WILL help.

She did a freakin magnificent job last night. I'm proud of her and proud of our party. I'm proud of Obama for celebrating her and I celebrated her, too.

[Greyskye]

39. off to the greatest with you

That speech had a lot of redemption value in it. :thumbsup:

[Spiffarino]

48. Thanks!!

:D:thumbsup:

:grouphug:

[SeaLyons]

41. Unity!!!! n/t

I'm donating today.

[CTD]

42. Any available Dem cash should go to Obama not HRC

HRC screwed up her campaign on her own. We need to win. Giving critical funds to HRC instead of Obama at this point is pure foolishness.

[Ino]

44. agreed! (nt)

[Spiffarino]

53. Couldn't disagree more

Helping clear her campaign debt will send her a powerful message: Obama's supporters will take care of you if you take care of them.

Whether some like it or not, we need the support of the Clintons if Obama is to become the next president. Right now her supporters are soft on Obama. We need them to come home and the Clintons can help make that happen.

Make no mistake, the Clintons will do the right thing. But I want them to not only do what's right, I want them to do it with enthusiasm. If she knows we have her back, it will motivate her even more.

[Raffi Ella]

43. Done!

From the bottom of my heart I thank Senator Clinton. She is truly my hero.

:dem:


and thank YOU, Spiffarino, for the lovely post :patriot:

K&R

[Honu one]

45. I do appreciate and applaud what she said last night, but

I need my money a lot more than the Clinton's do.

[Spiffarino]

47. That's OK

So you're in the same boat as most Americans? Then do what you gotta do.

The whole purpose of this thread isn't to shame anybody into doing anything. Some give because they can. Others can't give but take action instead. Either way, it makes all the difference.

[SwampG8r]

49. even i decided that

was the right thing to do
i sent her 20 bucks
its all i had til friday
she fucking earned it!

[Spiffarino]

50. Thanks, g8r

$20 is still real money. Besides, giving is all relative and anything, even a dollar, sends a strong message of support.

[Overseas]

52. No. /eom

[Spiffarino]

55. Whatever.

:shrug:

[weezie1317]

56. I have to give what I can to Obama, to the election. If I have anything left in Nov., I'll help HRC

[Dr Fate]

57. A good idea for those who are maxed out as to POTUS & DNC giving.

Or for those who can afford it.

I can only afford one more $100 gift to Obama- I also give small increments to the DNC weekly.

For those who can afford to help Hillary and who are maxed out as to Obama, I say go for it.

[Nye Bevan]

58. The Clintons have earned $109 million since 2000

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/05/nation/na-taxes5

I truly appreciate Hillary, and I loved her speech, but why can't she pay off her own campaign debt? It does not feel quite right that people living paycheck to paycheck send money to Hillary that could be going to Obama, when Bill earns $125,000 per speech. Is there some campaign finance regulation coming into play here?