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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:32 PM
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Gallup: Hillary’s Stock Still High Among Democrats (this is why Clinton-bashing here needs to stop)
Obama has a slightly higher favorable rating. But please look at how close Clinton is, and realize just how important a figure in our party you're targeting with attacks on Hillary Clinton -- and how damaging this is to party unity.

This is not an attack on Obama. This is a reminder here to those attacking the Clintons, many of whom have suggested Hillary Clinton is now "irrelevant" or should disappear, that they are completely out of step with most of the party. And their views are offensive to most of the party, just as similar attacks on Obama would be.

WE NEED UNITY. We have to be united to defeat McCain.




http://www.gallup.com/poll/109837/Hillarys-Stock-Still-High-Among-Democrats.aspx

August 26, 2008


Hillary’s Stock Still High Among Democrats

Eighty percent have favorable opinion of her


by Jeffrey M. Jones

PRINCETON, NJ -- The intense battle for the Democratic nomination between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama seems to have done little to diminish Democrats' affinity for the New York senator. Eighty percent of Democrats have a favorable opinion of her, compared to 74% just before Obama clinched the presidential nomination in early June and 82% before the primaries began, when she still rated as a strong front-runner for the nomination. Her favorable rating among all Americans is 54%, the most positive since just after she officially announced her candidacy in early 2007.

Obama rates above Clinton on basic favorability -- among both the general public (63%) and the Democratic rank-and-file (86%). Obama has typically rated higher than Clinton among the general public since the presidential primaries got under way in January.

But his higher favorable rating among Democrats is a more recent development. Clinton typically had higher favorable ratings than Obama throughout this presidential campaign season, but that to a large degree reflected Democrats' greater familiarity with Clinton than Obama (until recently, a substantial minority of Democrats did not have an opinion of Obama), rather than a more negative evaluation of Obama.

In any case, Democrats still see a future for Clinton in the Democratic Party. Seventy-nine percent want her to be a major national spokesperson for the party over the next four years as she completes her second term in the U.S. Senate. Just 18% of Democrats would prefer she have a less prominent role within the party.

Additionally, 75% of Democrats say they would like to see Clinton run for president again someday. Overall, Americans are not as high on a second Clinton presidential bid, with 52% in favor. That includes 50% of independents and only 24% of Republicans.

During the primaries, there was significant concern within Democratic ranks that large numbers of the eventual nomination loser's supporters would not back the nomination winner and thus hurt the party's chances of winning in November.

In the latest USA Today/Gallup poll, 16% of registered Democrats who say they supported Clinton in the primaries say they would vote for John McCain if the election were held today, and another 14% are undecided. One of Obama's and indeed Clinton's challenges during the Democratic Convention is to reduce those numbers. The vast majority of former Clinton supporters (70%) say they would back Obama, and they have a predominantly positive view of him (78% favorable and 18% unfavorable).

Even today, there remain concerns among Clinton backers that Obama does not give the Democratic Party the best chance of defeating McCain and the Republicans in the presidential election. A CNN/Opinion Research poll conducted Aug. 23-24 found the two running similarly in trial heats versus McCain, with Obama and McCain tied (47% to 47%) but Clinton having a slim but not statistically significant advantage over McCain (49% to 46%).

Even if many Democrats believe their odds of victory might be slightly better with Clinton rather than Obama headlining the ticket, there does not seem to be widespread support among the Democratic rank-and-file to deny Obama the nomination. The same CNN/Opinion Research poll finds 59% of Democrats saying that if the choice of Democratic nominee were up to them, they would choose Obama, while just 37% would anoint Clinton. That's about as strong as an endorsement as Republicans give McCain (57% would nominate him, 42% someone else), despite the fact that he won his party's nomination in a shorter, and perhaps less contentious, campaign than the Democratic contest.

A key question is to what extent those favoring another nominee would defect and vote for the other party in the general election. For the most part, the party supporters would remain loyal. As noted, the USA Today/Gallup poll finds 70% of former Clinton supporters saying they would vote for Obama if the election were held today (though only 47% say they are certain to do so). Additionally, the CNN/Opinion Research poll finds 66% of those who would nominate Clinton backing Obama versus McCain. That leaves a non-trivial percentage who would cross party lines -- among Democrats who say they would nominate Clinton if the choice were up to them, 27% would vote for McCain if the election were held today. But the GOP faces a similar problem, as 21% of Republicans who would rather the party nominate someone other than McCain say they would vote for Obama in the general election.



Implications

Obama and Clinton are doing their best to heal any remaining wounds within the Democratic Party from their protracted nomination battle. In general, Democrats still view Clinton positively, and welcome a prominent role for her within the party in the future.

While some Clinton supporters have yet to fall in line and support Obama for president, for the most part they have a positive opinion of Obama (as well as a largely negative view of McCain). So it is still not out of the question that they will come home by Election Day. But it is important to note that unifying the party is not a challenge unique to the Democratic Party, as many Republican supporters who are not enthusiastic about McCain have yet to return to the GOP fold.

-snip-
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:33 PM
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1. Get a life
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:35 PM
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This is it!
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 03:35 PM by FrenchieCat
Reminds me of......the Pumas wearing Shit eatin' grin fellow in the photo.

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:37 PM
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10. Wow...he even WEARS Pumas
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 03:40 PM by BeyondGeography
:rofl:
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #10
45. What is he doing with his hand? n/t
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:51 PM
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25. That Fin SCUMBAG ...
1
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #1
13. Care to explain your animosity?
I think the OP makes a very good point.

Or do you just like being ugly?
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. this is the only point the op makes.
Over and over and over. The OP's intentions became clear long ago and it has nothing to do with supporting Democrats.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:49 PM
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21. I'm sorry, and excuse me if I'm not getting the full story,
But all I see is the fact that it isn't good to alienate supporters of other primary candidates if we want to win the general.

And I'm down with that.

I don't see how that isn't supporting Democrats?

I'm being totally honest here, is there something I'm missing?
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:54 PM
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28. read the other replies
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #28
32. Okay, seriously, you people at GD:P are all nutbars. Each and every one of you.
No wonder why I prefer the Lounge. Holy fucking hell.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 04:01 PM
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36. if you hung out here more often
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 04:02 PM by Egnever
it would be abundantly clear what this OP is doing.

Its a passive aggressive thing.

Edit to add that yes we are nutbars.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #14
35. I have posted dozens of favorable topics about Obama and his wife this summer, and they have
been largely ignored by the Clinton-haters here, who want to do nothing but bitch about the Clintons.

Other former Clinton supporters here have noticed the same thing -- anything positive they post about Obama is ignored, but God forbid they dare ask for the Clinton-bashing here to stop.

I was accused, for instance, by another DU Clinton-hater of never posting anything positive about Obama the same day I'd posted these threads:

Thomas F. Schaller, Baltimore Sun: Obama unlike any politician, black or white
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6449828

Rasmussen, Partisan Trends article: Democrats Retain Huge Party ID Advantage
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6451015

AP: Play of the Day: Motorcycle officer meets Obama (great photo!)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6451266

CBS: Flag Pin Just One Symbol Embraced By Obama
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6451214

WORLD Magazine, a Christian mag: Young evangelical vote is "Up for grabs"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6451392


That was just one day when I was slammed for never saying anything positive -- after I'd posted all of those.

I've been posting articles like that all summer. But let me dare to object to the venomous Clinton-bashing that goes on here, which is so destructive of party unity, and I'm attacked for never posting anything positive.
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iconicgnom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 04:58 PM
Response to Reply #35
49. you poor widdle thing!
:cry:
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:45 PM
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15. I'll tell you what it is.
Obama has to break his back trying to show support for the Clintons. He has to kiss their ass, fall to their every need and tip-toe around everything and anything because some of her supporters are too petty and selfish that they would rather watch America fail just to see Obama fail. It's a sick game for them and then when we don't fall over ourselves trying to kiss the Clintons' feet, we are "attacking her", we are "promoting disunity.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:49 PM
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20. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 04:23 PM
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41. See my reply above. I've posted dozens of favorable topics about Obama this summer
and I don't recall your bothering to read and respond to any of them.

This forum in general seems much more interesting in bashing the Clintons than in saying anything positive about Obama and the Democratic Party.

If I can take the time to search for and post dozens of very positive articles about Obama, I don't think it's asking too much to ask DUers to pay attention to what Obama said when he asked his supporters to be nice to Clinton and her supporters.

We need party unity, and the people here bashing the Clintons and their supporters are nothing but the mirror images of PUMAs, very divisive and dangerous to our chances of beating McCain in November.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #13
22. The only "attacks" lately are responses to bad behavior by Hillary, her surrogates or Bill
We don't need to be scolded. Meantime, there's an election going on, don't you know.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #13
26. Ugly.
Anyone that supports Clinton must be destroyed.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #26
30. are you related to the OP?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #30
33. No
and why do you give a damn?
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. cause you sing the same song
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #37
52. and your point is????
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 06:07 PM by ronnykmarshall
Other than your daily outrage ......
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Balderdash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #52
70. Absolutely
some people seem to live to be outraged. I think it's just a ruse
though.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #1
64. Seconded. OP's kinda...obsessed about this.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:33 PM
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2. She lost, get over it.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:34 PM
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3. Sigh WTF?
Go away troll
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:34 PM
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4. Get a fucking
life.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:34 PM
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5. OK, you're right, Hillary bashing is not helpful...
...n/t...
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:35 PM
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6. Gallup is BAD these days don't believe it. n/t
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #6
27. Of course you don't.
Anything postive about Hillary doesn't fit into your little world.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:09 PM
Response to Reply #27
57. that's right I dont's like me megalomaniacs
n/t
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:36 PM
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7. The ball's in her court. nt
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:37 PM
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8. People calling out the Clintons for stupid moves are not attacking.
She is not above reproach.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:37 PM
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9. I think there are some who can't stop.
It's clearly an addiction (and an upleasant one at that). You see, after the primaries, rules were established at DU. We were supposed to become unified and supportive. The candidate bashing was supposed to cease.

Sadly, at times it seems that the rules only apply to one side.

Of course, I don't discount GOP operatives sowing seeds of discontent. The more divided Dems are, the happies the GOP is. After all, it's their ONLY chance (aside from voter suppression) that can possibly cause them to win the presidency.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:38 PM
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11. So do the repeated efforts to shove Hillary down our throats.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #11
29. Who held the gun to your head to read it?
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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:42 PM
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12. Unity and Sore-loserism are mutually exclusive
You are either a Democrat or a PUMA
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:46 PM
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16. I'm already voting for the Democrat. What about you?
And since you seem to believe there are so many on the brink of voting McCain, do you know them? Are you doing your part to convince them otherwise?
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:46 PM
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17. Peace, people... peace, love, understanding, and donations to Obama. He needs the ammo...
We have to supply it. I'm tooting my own horn here... I donated $1K of my hard-earned money through the Democratic Underground donation page today. C'mon... if you can afford it, make a donation today. We've been sitting in the measly teens for quite a while and he needs some decent financial firepower to defeat the 'thug onslaught of corporate bribes!

This is a war! Don't let them divide us!
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. wow 1k
Sweet! Thanks for that! Wish I could afford to do the same.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:47 PM
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18. highplainsdem right on cue
:crazy:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:50 PM
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23. What will you post about after the convention?
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:51 PM
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24. Because any comment here about HRC, positive or negative,
is just so consequential for the party and the election, right?

Sure thing.

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PolNewf Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:58 PM
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31. We don't trust the Clintons yet
Moreso Bill and henchmen like Carville. If the Clintons come through for Obama there will be Clinton love again. I'll give Hillary credit for coming out like a pro so far but until the rest of the Clinton machine smartens up there will continue to be suspicion that Hillary is fronting while the rest sabotage Obama.

I do find it encouraging that McCain's numbers are not much better and there isn't such an obvious rift on the GOP side or a prominant pug that can fix it.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:59 PM
Response to Reply #31
34. We?
Who is this "we" YOU speak of?
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PolNewf Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #34
42. Perhaps I should say "I"
but I think the suspicions are obvious among many on this board.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:52 AM
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59. No. You can say "We".
Edited on Wed Aug-27-08 12:13 PM by bvar22
I'm with you.

Hillary did her job last night.
She did it well. She was inspiring.
I expect no less from any Democrat.

That said, I feel no urgency to fall on my knees and worship at the Hillary altar as some of her acolytes here are demanding.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 04:04 PM
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38. Bash Clinton and Obama all you like. But if you bash Lee L. Mercer Jr.,...
I'm gonna come in here and put a major-league regulate government sleepers and government regulations authorized thought, ideas, acts, actions, rights, wrongs, controversies, facts, issues and circumstantial evidence through intelligence research, law research, law enforcement research and criminal law research implementing ROTC communications research innovating education national and international on all your asses (all three).
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #38
53. Those Mercerites are blood thirsty ..
and won't leave a scrap on your bones!
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 04:06 PM
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39. Nastalgia does that to polls..especially on the night she is to give a speech.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 04:20 PM
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40. Endless drama in the face of one history's clearest choices.
:eyes:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 04:35 PM
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43. Thank God the real world is nothing like DU!!!
:hi:
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #43
46. LOL! Yes, thank God!
:hi:
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 04:39 PM
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44. Hillary owns livestock? So those cattle futures came back to haunt her! n/t
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 04:54 PM
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47. K&R!
Every time you bash a Clinton...you.. Dilutes Obama's message and PISSES PEPOLE OFF! Enough outta already!
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 04:58 PM
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48. I don't understand. We should stop giving our opinions on a message board??? WEIRD.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 05:07 PM
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50. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 05:08 PM
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51. We need you to STOP trying to rub Obama supporters noses in any bad polling news you can find
and constantly advocating for Hillary.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:08 PM
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54. Many here only have one thing in common and that is their hate for Hillary.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:18 PM
Response to Reply #54
58. It does seem that way. And it's really unfortunate when we need party unity to win.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #58
63. If we need party unity, why cite polls that are continuing to
pit Obama against Clinton?

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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:12 PM
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55. But, but...
then we might all manage to get along and support our candidate. Have you no sense of tradition? As Democrats we must follow the tradition of eating our own and losing. So stop all this nonsense about thinking and winning. We're Democrats, damn it.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:24 PM
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56. It won't stop.
There are many infiltrators working overtime to guarantee that Dems are divided.
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 12:32 PM
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60. Skinner's post says it best: Hillary Clinton delivers the goods. (Again.)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6771546&mesg_id=6771546

And personally, for me, I agree & think it's time to put away the petty bickering & jealousy & hate and Unite. Praising one Dem doesn't take away from another. It helps our party. You have to give credit, where credit is due. Hillary did her part now its up to Obama, and he is going to need every vote he can get. Alienating each other isn't going to help. We need to bring people into the fold, not push them away.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #60
71. I wish I were as positive about this as you.
Personally, I believe a civil war in the Democratic Party has already erupted. :cry:
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 12:45 PM
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61. Yeah because the WHOLE world cares what goes on at DU.
:eyes: Christ I'm so sick of the whining.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 12:48 PM
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62. Why are people still pitting Obama against Clinton?
Why are you doing this? Your OP cites poll numbers that put Clinton against Obama in support, like this part:

Obama rates above Clinton on basic favorability -- among both the general public (63%) and the Democratic rank-and-file (86%). Obama has typically rated higher than Clinton among the general public since the presidential primaries got under way in January.

But his higher favorable rating among Democrats is a more recent development. Clinton typically had higher favorable ratings than Obama throughout this presidential campaign season, but that to a large degree reflected Democrats' greater familiarity with Clinton than Obama (until recently, a substantial minority of Democrats did not have an opinion of Obama), rather than a more negative evaluation of Obama.


This is a great example of continued attempts at division. Which I'm not falling for. There's no basis for comparison. Obama is the nominee. Clinton is a senator who gave a GREAT speech of support and unity last night. Why try to stir the waters again?


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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 12:56 PM
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65. How about we STOP talking about Hillary altogether? n/t
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 01:05 PM
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69. No
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 12:56 PM
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66. No one is bashing Hillary. The party is United. Apparently you aren't paying attention....
or is it something else? :eyes:
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 12:57 PM
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67. But if they stop bashing Clintons
half will lose any reason for breathing. It is what they live for. The other half will lose a paycheck from the republicans.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 12:59 PM
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68. However...

Hillary Clinton is not going to be the nominee. The Clinton supporters should be getting behind Obama.

Look...there are Clintonites who have no desire to vote for Barack. It's time for the Clintonites to be nice to
Obama supporters - if not vote for whom ever they want. I'm not kissing the arses of sore losers. GO VOTE MCCAIN
they deserve him.

But remember some of us Obama supporters will remember Hillary if she runs again.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 07:10 PM
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72. Both sides are way too sensitive
Any mention of Hillary/The Clinton name without heaping praise is seen as bashing and the merest question or opinion about Obama are the seeds of destruction.

We have not a moment or a vote to spare and all of this negative energy needs to be focused on McCain and the Republicans.
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