George W. Bush Wore a Ribbon He Did Not Earn

This is a photograph published on the Presidential Library site of George H.W. Bush. We can clearly see that in this photograph, George W. Bush is wearing an Air Force Outstanding Unit Award (AFOUA) and a Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon (SAEMR) just below his pilot wings, however, on line 24 of his NGB22 National Guard discharge form dated October 1, 1973, George W. Bush has no awards listed:



The photograph above was also included in the information released by the Bush administration:



He is listed as a second lieutenant in this photograph, and we know for a fact he earned the wings as he graduated from Undergraduate Pilot Training according to the record. As far as the Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon is concerned, he obviously earned that ribbon while he was an Airman prior to his commission as evidenced by line 24 of the NGB22 filed when he was discharged as an Airman:



The Bush administration has also provided a military biography:




The awards listed here are the Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon and the National Defense Service Medal, but no mention is made of the Air Force Outstanding Unit Award. It also lists his dates of service with units. Other than his time training, he was assigned to the 111th Fighter Intercept Squadron and it’s parent organization, the 147th Fighter Intercept Group. His discharge date from the Texas National Guard was October 1, 1973.

The above photograph had to have been taken some time between his qualifying as a pilot in 1969 and his promotion to First Lieutenant on November 7, 1970.

So what about the Air Force Outstanding Unit Award? In the United States Army, unit awards can be worn on a temporary basis. If you are transferred into the unit that has received an award, you wear that award until you transfer out of that unit. I contacted the Air Force Personnel Center and asked whether the Air Force Outstanding Unit Award was ever authorized for temporary wear. This was their answer:

IAW AF Instruction 36-2803, THE AIR FORCE AWARDS AND DECORATIONS PROGRAM

All assigned or attached people who served with a unit during a period for which a unit award was awarded are authorized the appropriate ribbon if they directly contributed to the mission and accomplishments of the unit.

Additionally, there isn't a "temporary" wear of AF Outstanding Unit Awards for AF personnel.

So to finally solve the mystery of the Air Force Outstanding Unit Award, I contacted the Air Force History support Organization. I requested all dates of all awards of the Air Force Outstanding Unit Award received by the 147th Fighter Intercept Group and the 111th Fighter Intercept Squadron. The answer I received was shocking. This unit had received this award only once. The dates of the award are as follows quoting directly from the source at the AFHSO:

147th Fighter Interceptor Group AFOUA 1 Oct 73-30 Sep 75 DAFSO GB 164/77

111 Fighter Interceptor Squadron AFOUA 1 Oct 73-30 Sep 75 DAFSO GB 164/77

This states explicitly that the units received the Air force Outstanding Unit Award for the time period from October 1, 1973 to September 30, 1975. George W. Bush’s discharge date from the 111th FIS and the 147th FIG was October 1, 1973. Clearly, these units did not receive an award of the AFOUA until after George W. Bush had been discharged, and well after the date the photograph in question was taken.

This means, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that George W. Bush was photographed wearing a ribbon he clearly did not earn.

Webliography:

Source of the photograph: bushlibrary.tamu.edu/photos/photos.php?file=HS502.jpg
Air Force Personnel Center: http://www.afpc.randolph.af.mil /
Air force History Support Office: http://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil /
USA Today source of documents used in this report: http://www.usatoday.com/news/2004-02-14-bush-docs.htm
Source for ARG22: http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/2-Discharge.pdf
Source for NGB22: http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/11-2_2004_Personn...
Source for copy of photograph: http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/11-2_2004_Personn...
Source for "military biography": http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/11-1_2004_Personn...

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Walter Starr, below is your initial request, and resolution. If the resolution is not sufficient please e-mail us at mailto:contact.center@randolph.af.mil or the POC below. Include your ticket number. You can also submit an update to your original request by logging into https://webcolab.afpc.randolph.af.mil/Scripts/rightnowd...

Problem : A couple of questions about the Air Force Outstanding Unit Award
Problem Details : Hi, I have a couple of questions about the Air Force Outstanding Unit Award.

1) Has the AFOUA ever been authorized for temporary wear? The Army has many Unit Awards that, when you transfer into a unit, the award is worn temporarily, and then removed upon leaving said unit. Is this a practice of the Air Force or has it ever been a practice of the Air Force?


2) I have no access to the Air Force Pamphlet 900-2. I have found that the 147th FIG (now the 147th FIW) received a first award of the AFOUA in 1966 and a third, I believe, in 1982. Could you give me the dates of all AFOUA awards the 147th Fighter Intercept Wing has been awarded in its illustrious history?


Thank you so much!
Resolution : Mr. Starr,
IAW AF Instruction 36-2803, THE AIR FORCE AWARDS AND DECORATIONS PROGRAM

All assigned or attached people who served with a unit during a period for which a unit award was awarded are authorized the appropriate ribbon if they directly contributed to the mission and accomplishments of the unit.


Additionally, there isn't a "temporary" wear of AF Outstanding Unit Awards for AF personel. Unfortunately, we do not have access to 900-2 however, if you request verification of entitlement of award of the AFOUA while assigned to a specific unit from the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, they can research the data for you. Please send your request to the below address and include a copy of your DD Fm 214 showing proof of service. They'll be able to provide a one time issue of the award upon verification.



Resolution Details : The address:

NPRC
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website address:
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race to the boards just to be first post on a breaking story.

p.s. I'm not calling you a yahoo.

and that is a really cool site: http://atrios.blogspot.com/

except they say "Frist"...LOL

What great work, Walt!

n/t

They love ratings more then Bush.

It is clear from the many rightwing programs with continued sponsorship, that ratings are secondary to the message. Why does Carlson have program on NPR? That twit Buckley had sponsors by the dozen for a program very few watched. Hannity and O'Reily have lower ratings than Moyers. I only wish what you were saying is true.

ratings and projected ratings determine ad rates, ad rates determine if someone will place the ad, and ad placement becomes ad revenue.

You're both right. They love ratings because they are money, because they are better ad rates, caused by bigger audiences, which makes someone want to place an ad, and pay for it.

But, the media companies love Bush more than they love money, because the two are not all that different.

TV was a heavily regulated industry. It's a lot less regulated, but there are still some vestiges of media ownership regulation left in the world. Bush will remove those, allowing a company to own and operate more than 33 stations.

A bump for an interesting story will get a company maybe a million extra in revenue, if it's a very large bump (Bush crossdresses, Kerry secretly in love with Cheney's Lesbian daughter, or something else similarly huge and shocking). Weigh that against the prospect of owning 100 TV stations, rather than just 33, each one earning ad revenue and diffusing production costs across a broader spectrum of business units.

No TV company in acting in its own interest (rather than the public's) will air this, because it's a case of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

If Kerry wants fair media coverage, he should support the elimination of regulation on the broadcast industry. That ain't gonna happen, and will drive some to Nader, so this story stays online, until it gets too big to ignore.

Do you mean this?

for disseminating this story. A big paper like the Houston Chronicle (right in Bush Country) might run with it, which would result in the story getting picked up by the national media.

I sent a link to the HC; we'll see if they bite. Bill Maher was an inspired choice, though. And it needs to go to Air America, which is where I'll be going after I send this message to y'all.

Thanks Walt...it IS a story. I hope it gets picked up.

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Dear Mr Starr:

147th Fighter Interceptor Group AFOUA 1 Oct 73-30 Sep 75 DAFSO GB 164/77

111 Fighter Interceptor Squadron AFOUA 1 Oct 73-30 Sep 75 DAFSO GB 164/77




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Hello,

I am trying to determine dates for all awards of the Air Force Outstanding Unit Award to the 147th Fighter Intercept Wing (formerly the 147th Fighter Intercept Group) and the 111th fighter Intecept Squadron. These organizations are part of the Texas National Guard.

Is there any way I can get this informaiton from you?

Walter E. Starr
XXXXXXXXX, XX

sent to drudge, not that he'll report it. ha ha ha ha ha

Do you think he stole it from Poppy's dresser drawer? We all know how he likes to play dress-up.

I think you're on to something here.

Fight back we must.

You have the temerity for details that many of us so severely lack.

Will pass this on.

The story behind this story is quite interesting. It all started on Saturday, August 21 when I began trying to compare Kerry's military awards to Bush's. When looking into Bush's I quickly found that something didn't add up.

Over the course of less than a week, it developed into a scandalous report of a president (famous for smearing Vietnam Veterans) who while serving in the Texas Natinal Guard wore an award he did not earn.

Every last bit of information came via the internet. I found using the telephone was simply not quick enough.

This is the new media, folks. The means of quickly researching this sort of story exists and is open to everybody. Participatory journalism will be the wave of the future.

Pat yourselves on the back, DUers, you kept me honest with this and forced me to dot my "i's" and cross my "t's".

are the man.

post on this. You are the hero of a lot of us. Yeah, we thought about and critiqued, but you did it. I think we should nominate Mr. Starr for internet investigting news god of 2004, or some such. Congrats and heartfelt thanks!

thank you for all of your hard work and determination.

the more of us who email them, the more likely they'll air it.

. . . but I served in a unit that got the Outstanding Unit Award. . . and it did NOT show up on MY DD-214. . . I think it only lists INDIVIDUAL decorations, not unit ones, but I've been out of the USAF for 15 years. . . personally, I think linkage between Bush and the not-so-swifties is far more damning. . .

and the Air Force History Support Organization could verify your unit received the award while you were assigned to the unit.

Unfortunately for Bush, his unit didn't.

the picture is taken at the wrong time for him to have it and that unit didn't even EARN that award until 1973. In other words, there's no way he could have been wearing it legit in that picture.

Bush was discharged on 1 October 1973, the same date that the time period of the AFOUA began. Does that mean that Bush's service and the AFOUA time period overlapped by one day? If so, couldn't Bush have received the AFOUA for that one day of service?

So he could never have legitimately worn the award while in uniform.

I will contact my local media immediately.

Even if boosh had been authorized to wear it for the one day overlap in 1973, the photo was taken 1969-1970.

The unit hadn't won the award then.

here it is: http://www.awolbush.com/deserter.html

Bush asked for discharge from the TANG on 9/5/73 and then headed for Harvard Biz school. He didn't hang around long enough to receive word that his request had been accepted, in other words ... "after tender of his resignation and before notice of its acceptance, his post or proper duties without leave and with intent to remain away permanently..."

which makes him GUILTY of desertion according to the Texas Code of Military Justice, Section 432.130. (Yeah, I know the links are broken...I'll fix them ASAP...)

It's been sent to Salon as well.

Get the word out. Blast the media. The people need to know that a president who sinks to the low of questioning documented awards of our veterans did not conduct himself as an officer and a gentleman while he served in the Texas Air National Guard.

What do you think the Tribune is going to do with it?

It could be published this weekend.

Thanks for the info.

I so hope they get scooped.

I'm proud of you!

Aren't these pictures both of W. You mention George HW Bush and then W.

Thanks all for the explanations.

He has only a bit role in this story.

Citing the location of where the photo came from helps to shut up the naysayers who think the photo must be doctored because their perfect leader would never do such a dishonest thing.

Nice work Walt!

Kicked

I heard on Mike Malloy's show that when BushCo was running for congress that he had a section that stated he was "in the Air Force"...did you hear about that one...?

anyway...great work...great work...I'm sending it out to a few places here in AZ...

The above photograph had to have been taken some time between his qualifying as a pilot in 1969 and his promotion to First Lieutenant on November 7, 1970.

What is this based on...?

Here's what they will say...

"The picture was taken Oct 1, 1973. Bush was discharged that same day the unit received the award..."

But that still stinks because it looks like the award was given to the Unit just so Bush - who was about to leave - could look good in a photo op...(and presumably on down the line) And have something to make it look like he did something in TANG...

Now - who - just who - might have that kind of influence...???

And the award wouldn't have been issued until 1975.

There is absolutely no way he could have legitimately worn the award while in uniform. The award is never given until after the last date of the time period covered by the award, usually several months later.

This is part of the reason why John Kerry was issued a DD215. It added several unit awards and corrected another.

...not trying to cut up your fine work...but I think we really need to know...

He was promoted to 1st Lt. in Nov 1970.

Why would someone have a photo taken of himself at a lower rank than he was at the time and wear a ribbon he couldn't have earned until after he was at the higher rank?

Ergo, he fucking lied.


TG

I need more than that scribble on the corner of the one pic...

You want to know if anything about the HAIRCUT can definitively date the photograph, but the date written on it as posted by the Bush administration in their document dump isn't good enough?

Yes - the HAIRCUT - their are probably regulations about haircuts...

Sorry - something scribbled in the corner of a FAX doesn't cut it...that could have been scribbled on there in the past year.

What is the conclusive proof of the photo date?

If I'm following this right, at NO TIME during aWol's term of service was he authorized to wear this ribbon.

Never ever.

wear that second ribbon. bush was discharged in 73, BEFORE the ribbon was given to the unit which would have been in 75. Here is the reason, taken from Walt's initial post:

IAW AF Instruction 36-2803, THE AIR FORCE AWARDS AND DECORATIONS PROGRAM

All assigned or attached people who served with a unit during a period for which a unit award was awarded are authorized the appropriate ribbon ****if they directly contributed to the mission and accomplishments of the unit.****

Additionally, there isn't a "temporary" wear of AF Outstanding Unit Awards for AF personnel.

So to finally solve the mystery of the Air Force Outstanding Unit Award, I contacted the Air Force History support Organization. I requested all dates of all awards of the Air Force Outstanding Unit Award received by the 147th Fighter Intercept Group and the 111th Fighter Intercept Squadron. The answer I received was shocking. This unit had received this award only once. The dates of the award are as follows quoting directly from the source at the AFHSO:

147th Fighter Interceptor Group AFOUA 1 Oct 73-30 Sep 75 DAFSO GB 164/77

111 Fighter Interceptor Squadron AFOUA 1 Oct 73-30 Sep 75 DAFSO GB 164/77

This states explicitly that the units received the Air force Outstanding Unit Award for the time period from October 1, 1973 to September 30, 1975. George W. Bush’s discharge date from the 111th FIS and the 147th FIG was October 1, 1973. Clearly, these units did not receive an award of the AFOUA until after George W. Bush had been discharged, and well after the date the photograph in question was taken.

(**** added by me for emphasis)

I have been wondering the same exact thing. The 1st Lt. is a higher rank than the 2nd right?

Love ya!

all his military records.

Believe me, mine too!

Are we just all sending this out to random media sources or is there some sort of method to the madness?

Send it to media people you don't know.

It needs to get out there. The more that read it the more likely it'll get picked up.

The facts are all there. Heck, if you look at the headers on the Air Force History Support Organization, you'll notice that email flowed to me through Pentagon servers!

I'm very happy you did all this Walt.

...don't blame it on a right-wing conspiracy or censorship enforced by the administration. The reason it won't get picked up is this: it's really not that impressive.

Walt, I've been nay-saying this story since I found it. I'm not saying that your research is in any way incorrect or inaccurate. Rather, I just don't think it is that big of a deal.

I live in Texas, in Bush territory. Now, if I felt I could show someone this thread to my Bush-backer coworkers and make them swallow real hard and mutter, "Uh-oh...." then I think you would have something. But I really don't think this discovery of yours is going to turn anyone away from Bush.

The Bush-backers will stick with their man, and the undecideds are more worried about issues than past military records (which is why the Swift Boat thing isn't very damaging either).

If I had to sum up my reaction to this discovery in two words, it would be:

So what?


It reconfirms our opinion of him: Bush is a dweeb and a loser. But to be important, it has to be strong enough to turn people away from Bush, and it just plain isn't.

Sorry to burst your bubble, Walt, but this isn't earth shattering stuff.

On a new thread?

I will gladly eat crow on a new thread.

I will even admit that Walt is right.

But for the record, I'm thinking major daily or network, not a minor web news service. Is that fair?

The facts have been laid out. We'll see.

I pity the misunderestimators. Super congratulations!

We'll see.

Even if I doubt how much it will impact the race, it is a good piece of work.

Obviously you're wasting your time and should stop this nonsense immediately.

if the smearies weren't telling lies about Kerry and his medals, you would probably be right, bush supporters would just shrug and say "well, you know, he was young, but he's found JESUS now!"

Etc etc.

BUT. In light of the BIG deal that has been made out of KERRY'S service, this is now a germane topic, is it not?

AND the biggest audience this will hit with is veterans. My husband is a veteran and I asked him what it means to a veteran to know of a fellow service member wearing a ribbon they didn't earn.

He told me of a buddy of his who "decided" to wear Ranger tabs on his uniform (Army). He narrowly escaped a court martial over it and lost all his buddies. He was shunned, so to speak.

there can be enough of a doubt as to whether Bush thought he was doing the right thing that his backers will not be fazed.

I mean, yes, of course, there are plenty of people out there who would vote for boosh if he were standing on the White House lawn wearing only dress socks and a pink tutu, eating toddler fingers and singing "How Dry I Am". Of course.

BUT....this case, as far as I can see, is airtight. I've even been checking out all the links in his webliography, etc. I've been talking to vets about it, double-checking. And now I'm trying to find out what the repurcussions are for doing something like this so we can get an idea of how major it is/was.

Do you know any veterans? They take this stuff VERY seriously and this isn't just some guys saying they were kinda sorta in the same country at the same time and heard some things, this is hard evidence.

Not only that, this could very well make SOME journalists get nosey about the rest of his records....being punked by a guy who isn't even a journalist and all.....

....one of which claimed he saw the AF reg on temporary wearing of ribbons back in the 70's. Condidering the AF is an off-shoot of the Army, could it be possible that they were still adhering, officially, to Army regs in the 70's?

Then it just becomes a case of whether the unit won the award prior to Bush's time there. According to Walt, it didn't, but there was anectdotal evidence from a unit web page or something like that that said they won it in '66. Are the records kept well enough, and are all the units (and their histories) documented well enough to establish for sure that there is no rational explanation for Bush's wearing of the medal?

I know Walt has done a lot of digging, but the significance of his findings could be debunked if others in his unit during the same time frame were also wearing the ribbon.

I am sending to Helen Thomas!

(I don't know her but have her email addy)

There are more than a few unanswered questions about Bush's time in the National Guard. There is no way they can hope to ignore or bury this after the smear they just tried on John Kerry. Where's your records George?! Prove you earned that medal!

Now to get it out there. It's too bad our national media blaster isn't ready yet. I forgot how to do google prison.....

I wish there were an award we could put you in for! Long live Democracy!

Guess who I saw crossing the street in DC today? MAX CLELAND! We gave each other the thumbs up and then I got to shake his hand and thank him for what he was doing for our country. He looks ready for anything. Healthy as could be. Max Cleland rocks too.

Hero.. who got tarnished and is coming back Stronger!

I can't wait to see what Kerry has in mind for him in his Admin.

little while to run this - they will have to get their lying talking heads in-studio and all "liared up".

Excellent work Walt

Media Blaster:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cu/cu.php?az=blast...

I didn't have bcc so I put it in to:

I can see your own web site. The Starr Report!

Hope the media picks up on this.

We should send it to TDS also...

RL

I'm now leaving the house and taking her out to dinner. We'll make sure we eat something with Heinz Ketchup on it.

I'll catch up on this thread later tonight.

...once you sink your teeth in this story, there's no letting go...

and backdated.

I've always thought the Alabama story was a ruse. My bet is Dubya's discharge was repaired in good ole Texas. Alabama is just to throw us off the real trail.

I personally think someone else's old papers were used and altered later before he ran for Gov of Texas (which would explain the weird boxes like marital staus that were censored on his discharge papers)

He's photographed as a Second Lt. wearing an award that was issued in 1975.

And the certain conclusion is that he was photographed in 1969-1970 wearing a phony ribbon to inflate his importance?

That's the most charitable way of looking at it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

I personally think someone else's old papers were used and altered later before he ran for Gov of Texas (which would explain the weird boxes like marital staus that were censored on his discharge papers)

Lots of weird stuff in his military paperwork that just doesn't add up, of course the same could be said for his DMV record, and indeed his life in general. Lots of fuzzy areas with simplistic explanations, again like the man himself.

{Don t get mad, get even} is a great saying!

And you put your energy to work in a terrific way!!

not to go with this story, but the documentation is persuasive. I hope it at least generates another series of Bush lies. It would be hilarious to hear Bush himself try to explain this.

This reminds me of the question of Bush wearing Naval Aviator's wings when he attended the Carrier Costume Party. Does anyone know whether that was determined to be appropriate?

This is just so kewl!

The best part is that I am reading this thread and writing this reply while listening to John Kerry's 1971 Foreign Relations Committee testimony on C-SPAN.




Tansy Gold, proud to "know" Walt Starr

Glad you're with 'Democratic Underground Citizens For Truth'!

and do a damn fine job of it.

and I'll be thrilled to publish it.

Shame that our "liberal" media has forgotten how to do investigative reporting.

n/t

Enjoy your evening out, you've more than earned it.

Downright inspirational, you are!

Thanks for all your work, Walt. And to DUers who worked on the Blaster.

I hit all 50 states for TV and Daily News

that's a strange photo. when one gets a picture taken in uniform, the rank is usually clearly visible. in this picture, his rank is vague.