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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:34 PM
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I'm suspecting that the GOP would like Biden in the ticket
Can someone explain to me what Biden could propose as an alternative to the republican party policies.
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:36 PM
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1. I think
his best asset will be as attack dog. Not his only asset, but his best.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:36 PM
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2. Get out of Iraq, for starters? Pitt bull to protect and defend the Dems? nt
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Shoelace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:46 PM
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12. Biden has that quality for sure
and that's what Obama needs right now so might be the right choice. Damned if I know!
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:37 PM
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3. If I was McCain't, I'd pay money to get Biden on out ticket. Total cop out choice.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:38 PM
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4. They don't want someone like Biden on the ticket. They want a weak VP like John Edwards
Edited on Fri Aug-22-08 09:39 PM by BrentTaylor
Biden will attack attack attack. Which will cause McCain to blow a gasket
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:39 PM
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 11:03 PM
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18. Show me the shining path to illuminate my ignorance
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 11:51 AM
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29. Try reading.
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GrizzlyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 01:19 PM
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35. That's always a good start
Edited on Sat Aug-23-08 01:19 PM by GrizzlyMan
I get a kick out of these moronic undecided voters who don't feel like "they know Obama". He's been running for president for 18 months. He has been on the cover of every magazine imaginable. There are endless things to read about him "on the tubes".

Really what it's about is being lazy.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:39 PM
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6. Pro choice, pro environment, anti-stay in Iraq for 100 years, pro labor ...
you know, those sorts of things.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 10:12 PM
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16. Actually will have a son serving in Iraq. Letter the old war guy beat
that!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 10:16 PM
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17. I just read that he'll be going in October.
How sad. I hope he will be able to come home safe and soon.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 09:05 AM
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23. McCain's Marine son recently served in Iraq.
He has another son at the Naval Academy.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 09:12 AM
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25. Okay, I did not know that.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:40 PM
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7. Knows foreign policy like the back of his hand, worldwide siplomatic respect,
and he can kick McSame's sorry ass to the curb with his sharp wit--and McS won't even know what hit him.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:41 PM
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8. Yeah, both parties are the same. Go vote Nader, but take it someplace else.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:42 PM
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9. watch his appearances for Obama on MTP, CNN, ABC, and get back to us. nt
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:44 PM
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11. And here I thought irony impairment was a Republican virtue
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:43 PM
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10. Rush Limpballs has recently said as much... n/t
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:47 PM
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13. Since when is it the VP's job to "propose" policy?
He presides over the Senate and otherwise does what the President tells him to do. The Vice President doesn't set policy, unless he is Dick Cheney, and thankfully that long national nightmare is nearly over.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:49 PM
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14. Biden is much better VP candidate material than presidential
He doesn't have to be as likable. He can frame issues, assert positions, eviscerate fools. I don't think people have strong feelings about him even after all this time. A lot of people think he's a pretty good guy. I doubt many people hate him - just not much hate on.
I don't think they can do much to go negative on him. They can say he's a Washington insider and that he plagiarized a part of a speech once 25 years ago. That's nothing at all. Plus, with his son going to Iraq in October, and the tragedy he suffered earlier in his life, there's just little room to give him crap. Yep, if this is good news for the Republicans, I wish them such good news every day from now until November.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 10:05 PM
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15. Repubs should really like Biden -
after all he worked with them as chair of the judiciary committee to orchestrate the public stoning/flogging of Anita Hill.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 12:51 AM
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19. Clarence Thomas?
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 08:39 AM
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20. Yes.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 11:53 AM
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31. Oh man. You really don't want to open that wound here at DU.
Biden was despicable.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 08:58 AM
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21. It's funny.
Every presidential season I get really excited about the possibility of picking someone to right the wrongs of the previous administration. But then it is always business as usual and it is the same old politicians and the same old crap. Joe Biden? Really? For fuck's sake. What a disappointment.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 09:04 AM
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22. I think the GOP is relieved they don't have to face a unity ticket. OTOH, Biden is probably the
strongest of the non-Clinton choices Obama had.

I caught Sean Hannity saying a few nights ago that he hoped it would be Biden, simply because of all the stuff he had to use against Biden. But he also said at the same time that he'd heard Kaine and Sebelius were the finalists. :shrug:

I don't know how this is going to turn out. But I'm less concerned about GOP attacks on Biden than I am about how Clinton supporters will react. I'm not sure we've ever had a situation where polls consistently showed a majority of Democrats wanted a particular VP candidate, and the nominee chose someone else. We'll see what happens.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 09:09 AM
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24. I think the GOP is upset that despite all their prodding, poking, cajoling
Obama STILL didn't pick Hillary Clinton. I can only wonder how many anti-Clinton campaign ads were in the can that now have to be scrapped.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 11:50 AM
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28. Lol, that part cheers me up a little, I mean the thought
of the money they've probably already spent getting ready for the Hillary hate-fest. :rofl:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 09:13 AM
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26. AlphaCentauri, get used to it
A centrist Democratic nominee picked a centrist VP running mate. Anyone with half a brain knows Obama and Biden are quite the alternative to McCain/Lackey.

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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 11:47 AM
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27. I don't know how to define McCain political position at this point
Obama is at the center, McCain then could swing to the right or to the left. If McCain moves to the center there will be no space for Obama to be in that position so he could go right or left.
If both candidates pitch to the center then people will have to vote for the one has the best hair cut.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 12:00 PM
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34. I believe you're mistaken about what being in the center means
Being centrist means taking some left position, some right positions, and also finding compromise stances.

It's arrived at from the totality of all positions, but they don't have to be the same positions for everyone.

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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 10:48 PM
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37. may be they could disagree in the most irrelevant positions
and been considered centrist
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 10:54 PM
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39. You don't know where McCain is politically?

Really?

Really!?

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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 11:58 PM
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41. Its a little bit confusing
put McCain side by side with Denis Kucinich then McCain looks like he is on the center, Kucinich on the left.
Then put Kucinich against Ralph Nader's running mate Matt Gonzalez, Kucinich looks like he is on the center and Gonzalez on the left.

Gonzalez Vs. Biden would be the left and the right.
Gonzalez Vs. McCain extreme left versus extreme right.
McCain Vs. Pat Buchanan Center Right versus extreme right

:dilemma:
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:25 AM
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42. Ohhhhh ...

I get it now.

Nader is running again? Really?

Huh.



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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:44 PM
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44. yep! and I've been reading that " if you don't like Obama vote for McCain"
and "if you don't like McCain vote for Obama"
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 10:56 PM
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40. Wait.
What?

MPK
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 11:52 AM
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30. Sanity.
He's not a neoconservative. Also, he will adequately counter the bull out there thrown at Obama. He's not one to sit politely and scared to throw real stones instead of weak statements like from other dems. Watch and see.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 11:56 AM
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32. What planet are you on? n/t
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 11:59 AM
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33. It's SARCASM, folks. Jeez, get a grip. He just forgot the little thingie. The smiley.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 07:23 PM
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36. Agreed
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 10:51 PM
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38. I think it's more than "like"
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:35 AM
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43. everyone please beg and cajole me into voting Democratic!
Edited on Sun Aug-24-08 12:42 AM by TexasObserver
Is it really that complicated to you?

You have two choices. Which are you going to choose?

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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 12:46 PM
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45. the less evil?
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