New VP poll

[mvd]

Poll question: New VP poll

What are your late preferences, DUers? I hope it's Biden out of Biden, Kaine, and Bayh, but still would like Clark most of the main names being floated around.

[Muttocracy]

1. any of those but Bayh

[Bucky]

2. Can you specify which Clinton you mean?

I'm hoping you meant Roger. Or George.

[SoxFan]

18. DeWitt

[nsd]

3. I still prefer Bayh ...

... though I think it'll be Biden. And he's a good choice too, I recognize, so I'll be happy either way.

[Blackhatjack]

4. Biden, Clark and Kerry are all good choices... Bayh would be worst IMHO

I like Biden, Clark and Kerry -- each for different reasons.

Biden would bring excellent foreign policy experience, and is a good communicator when he stays on the reservation. His downside includes his past gaffes.

Clark would bring instant worldwide recognition to the office as the past Supreme Commander, and his foreign policy views are consistent with those held by Obama and Biden. His downside is lack of political experience, and his less than successful Presidential run was not well planned and thought out.

Kerry might actually bring the most to the ticket, AND be most compatible with Obama --making a strong unified team. The public has not forgotten how the election was stolen in Ohio and what 4 more years of Bush gave us --when we could have had Kerry as President.

We need to present the public with a very clear choice, and any of these 3 VP candidates would do that.

Bayh would be a train-wreck, beginning with his defense of his voting record. He also has too many positions in common with McCain. You want to be on the offensive drawing a clear reference to McCain's similarities with Bush. Bayh won't do that.

[saltpoint]

5. Good poll. Always a plus to take the pulse of people this close

to an announcement.

We may only have a couple hours more to do this, so I appreciate your putting this up.

By degrees, i happy to support any of those names if Barack Obama is the Decider. I'd ideally like 8 to 16 consecutive years of progressive judicial appointments.

Under 'Other' I like Bill Bradley, Barbara Boxer, Brian Schweitzer, Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg, and several others.

In your named-name poll choices, I'll go with Feingold with a view toward those 16 consecutive years, but I think it will be Joe Biden.

[mvd]

6. I also really like Feingold

He hasn't been memtioned as much, but would be up there with Clark for me. :hi:

[mvd]

7. Interesting.. Clark has been winning all along

There's late interest in Biden, which is fine with me.

[Sparkly]

8. Biden's "yes" vote on IWR doesn't bother DUers anymore?

Just askin'. :shrug:

[Clark2008]

11. And, apparently, these DUers don't want to flip any Southern

or mid-Western states, either.

Biden would absolutely not draw them out in the Heartland.

I thought the goal of winning was... well... to balance out the ticket so that's it's easily acceptable to wide swaths of people - and two Northerners aren't going to do that (yes, I know that Illinois is technically a mid-Western state, but Chicago is more Northern than mid-Western in it's thinking and, frankly, in its colloquialisms).

[elleng]

17. The 'goal' of winning

is 'to win,' and there are LOTS of theories about the effect of VPs on tickets.

It may be that o is deciding based on getting along with someone, or relying on someone's Xpertise, surely not merely 'geographic.' (texas/wyoming?)

[Sparkly]

20. But Obama's run on the judgment to oppose the invasion and specifically, the IWR.

Would it not be a distraction for him to have to explain why his VP is fit to be president, given his stance on judgment? Wouldn't it weaken his position against McCain?

[elleng]

23. It might be an issue to discuss,

among many. I don't see it as a significant 'distraction.'

Joe has explained that he's long since changed his mind on the 'war' vote.

[Sparkly]

24. "Changing his mind"...

... Just so it's clear what we'd be getting into.

This didn't work for Kerry, Edwards, or Clinton.

[elleng]

26. He'll explain why/how it came about.

I'm sure his explanation will be full and credible; fergit kerry and edwards. and hrc?

Leaders MUST be able to change their minds AND EXPLAIN HOW AND WHY; we 'normal' people do that, don't we?

[Clark2008]

22. Ah... but you're forgetting that a Southerner or mid-Westerner

(even if they're a fake Southerner or mid-Westerner) has been on the winning ticket every year since 1976.

Granted... Gore and Kerry lost (Gore and The Cheater being the Southerners), but that's because they were out-mid-Westerned by the phonies.

Anywho... most folks in the South and mid-West wouldn't know Biden if he bit 'em. I'm speaking, of course, of the LIVs, but they vote, too.

[PM7nj]

25. Obama isn't even a "fake" midwesterner? nt

[Dinger]

13. Bayh Too, And

I was wondering the same thing.

[Naturyl]

19. Actually, it does...

...and so does his vote to let creditors screw the public with near-impunity.

However, everybody makes a few big mistakes in life. All things considered, Biden is still a good choice.

[Dems to Win]

9. Obama / Gore '08

Obama needs Gore. Gore has the gravitas plus the future-focus that fits in with Obama's message.

Al Gore is a patriot. It's a chance for Gore to put the world on a sustainable energy path -- it's an opportunity/challenge he will accept.

Obama / Gore '08

[Owl]

10. Biden, though Clark, Feingold, or Richardson would be great also.

[Dinger]

12. Take A WILD Guess Who I Picked?

:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

[Dinger]

27. Awww, Shit. Is it Really That Hard?

C'mon, just a little bitty guess.

[Arnold Judas Rimmer]

14. Richardson, Clark, or Feingold.

If Biden wasn't the Senator from MBNA, he would be on the list as well. But he is, and for both those reasons, he shouldn't be on the ticket. Cabinet position, sure. Campaign liability, no.

[AlinPA]

15. Brian Schweitzer.

[jefferson_dem]

16. Biden is the one.

Hands down. We need his fp experience and frank talk. Joe will bring the hammer down on McCain's bullshit.

[wisteria]

21. it really doesn't matter what any of us think or wish for. n/t

[dpbrown]

28. Feingold would be the only decent pick

Come on. Saddle Obama with some tired old white guy like Gore was saddled with Lieberman?

Feingold is the only one who is not a prevaricator.