The difference between Obama and McCain in a nutshell...Their answers to the abortion question.

[jefferson_dem]

Here's Obama's response: "One thing that I'm absolutely convinced of is that there is a moral and ethical element to this issue. And, so I think anyone who tries to deny the moral difficulties and gravity of the abortion issue is not paying attention." Obama said. "I am pro-choice, I believe in Roe v. Wade, and I come to that conclusion not because I am pro-abortion, but because ultimately I don't think women make these decisions casually. They struggle with these decisions profoundly."

Here's McCain's: "I will be a pro-life president."

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters/?pid=345742

[AuntPatsy]

1. One with a thoughtful and well put response, the other response, a callous indifference

to an issue that he would have absolutely no clue as to what such entails...

[wolverinez]

To most voters, that repsonse is boring and long winded

nt

[Cronus Protagonist]

7. How much is it one gets for these blog postings again?

Is it airline miles or a seat on the maverick's airplane? I can't remember.

[Mz Pip]

8. And that really short answer?

That was downright scary.

[Whisp]

12. and most DUers can smell a fake

and your ass is pretty pungent, pal.

[wolverinez]

19. Drink the Kool Aid, nothings wrong....Obama is unbeatable

If you wish it enough it will happen. Long winded poltically correct answers in a soundbyte world are a good thing.

[AuntPatsy]

33. Of course he is unbeatable, the only well he could lose is through foul and illegal means which

is my biggest fear, anyone voting for mcbush seriously would need his or her head examined....they are obviously ignorant beyond belief, to even attempt to imply that mcbush stand a chance by legal means is trully laughable...no reason for debates if you ask me its clear as day who is the better candidate to lead this country back on track...

[AuntPatsy]

21. well then those voters have no real desire for honest thought, in my mind those people

are pretty much worthless in that they need others to make their decisions for them, how lazy can one be...

[Kool Kitty]

36. Exactly-heaven forbid you might have to think

about a candidate's answer. It's so much easier when the answer is the standard-issue republican talking point which never ever changes.

[dkf]

5. "Callous indifference" pretty much sums up his attitude.

Did he display an ounce of sympathy or empathy? I don't remember it.

[jefferson_dem]

11. It was supposed to be a "Faith Forum".

The old geezer just sat there and told war stories about himself and screamed about "Drilling Here and Drilling Now!"

[dkf]

23. Being a POW is the only way a guy can cry about himself 24/7.

[grantcart]

2. One unintended outcome of the night -

Any prochoice women who thought that they might flirt with McCain just got their marching orders.

If you want to keep Roe vs Wade there is only one candidate to vote for.

[jefferson_dem]

3. Yo PUMAs! All six of you!

How do ya feel right about now?

[grantcart]

31. PUMAs are one thing

but the reality is that there are tons of professional women who normally vote Democratic that were still pissed off.

This should help to clarify it for them.

[wolverinez]

4. BINGO. Obama is starting to campaign like Kerry

I even wonder if they are using the same playbook.

[jefferson_dem]

6. Really? What exactly do you mean?

Are you more comfortable with McCain's response?

[Cronus Protagonist]

9. Don't encourage them

Not that I can control you or anyone else, but why invite negative propaganda? We NEED to win this time.

[wolverinez]

13. Your response reminds me of this time in 2004..

"Why invite negativity?" This isn't negativity. This is realism. People were all over Kerry for taking the high road and having long winded, politically correct answers carefully constructed to offend no one.

In two weeks, people will say "there's still plenty of time". That will be the next line.

John Kerry is a great guy and being thoughtful and thinking things through is a great way to govern *once* elected. But it's a horrible way to run elections in a soundbyte world. I see the exact same things going on with the Obama camp.

[Cronus Protagonist]

18. How much are you getting for this?

Coupons for a gas discount, or a ticket on the McCain train?

[wolverinez]

24. You are right, everything is fine

dollar is weak
gas prices highest ever
crazy high budget deficit
trade defiict@record levels
80% of country thinks "wrong track"
food costs rising
college tuition skyrocketing
health care skyrocketing
unpopular war


yet McCain is neck and neck with Obama. Sorry, but so far I have not seen a good campaign. Keep drinking that kool aid though.

[Cronus Protagonist]

28. haha, yeah, right

Show me where I ever said, in the last 8 years that everything is fine.

You cannot do it. And I'll tell you why. You made that crap up. Then you shot it down.

Interestingly, this is a perfect example and a metaphor of all the other crap you've made up today in your 28 posts, or is it 29 now?

[jefferson_dem]

29. LOL!

Can you get any more obvious?

Slacker.

[EC]

35. So exactly what is it your guy McCain is going to do

to get us out of the mess his pal got us into? More of the same? McCain came off as a crazy man.

[AuntPatsy]

27. Your post really makes no sense at all, I did not see obama attempting to take

the high road or use politicaly correct answers in that response?????? Now if you were talking about Mcbush your post would make much more sense, what he did is pander as usual....

[jefferson_dem]

15. I was just tossing out a little bait to see what I catch.

Smells fishy to me. That's for sure.

[Cronus Protagonist]

20. hahha no kidding.. lol

n/t

[Blondiegrrl]

38. Awww, how cute. We have a visitor.

Whatsamatta U? Grampy McGrumpy's message boards putting you to sleep so you had to come over here for some excitement and thought-provoking conversation?

[FrenchieCat]

40. (((FREEPER ALERT!)))

I've done my duty and confronted Evil. Unfortunately, only Jesus Christ can Defeat Evil....so I rest my case.

[Thrill]

10. McCain's answers tonight should have fired up the Democratic base

[JeanGrey]

14. Did you miss Obama's answer to when life begins?

"above my pay grade".

[Median Democrat]

16. Imagine If This Was Conducted In Front of NOW...

I imagine the answers would be like this:

Here's Obama's response: "I will be a pro-choice president."

Here's McCain's: "I am right to life, but I do believe in precedent, and will not apply any litmus test to the appointment of Supreme Court justices. Rather, I will focus on merit and qualifications. I also will not apply any litmus test to appointess, and in fact have several members of my campaign who are pro-choice. In fact, several of the candidates who have mentioned for Vice-President, Tom Ridge and Joe Lieberman, are pro-choice.

[dkf]

25. Exactly. Its easy to have a nice short answer when you are preaching to the choir.

The interesting thing is how those typical Republican answers that McCain gave are not where he was just a little while ago.

[pot luck]

17. McPOW came off sounding more conservative than even Shrub tonight.

The thought of him the White House scares me.

[dkf]

26. He even out stupids Bush.

[Kool Kitty]

37. No mean feat, that.

And he's way more hostile and belligerent. I don't want this man in the White House for any reason-not even a tour.

[rasputin1952]

22. Obama's answer was a good one...I'm pro-choice for a # of reasons...

but the biggest one for me is that I have no say in the matter of what someone does w/their body. As for "late term" abortions, they are remarkably rare, and there is no such thing as "partial birth abortion", that is straight up murder as the baby would be in the birth canal.

A few years ago I was told by an anti-abortion individual that the sperm cells and eggs each possessed half a soul each, needless to say, I was incredulous, and quietly said that was ridiculous. The individual actually agreed w/me after a moment. It was if his thoughts were challenged for the first time!

McCain played to those who watched this and have already made up their minds because they are essentially single issue voters anyway. Obama, on the other hand, spoke as if he expected people to think about issues that affect the nation. No one need be "religious" to have a sense of morality, and it is far worse to claim the mantle of "morality" and then have it ripped away because it was empty in the first place.

[Middle finga]

30. Their answers to the "Evil" question was also telling

Obama basically said and I'm paraphrasing, there's evil all over the world such as Dafur, Parents abusing kids, etc, there's all kinds of acts of evil including here in the U.S. and that we can all play our part to work against evil but ultimately only god can eliminate evil from the face of the earth. McCain said yeah there is evil and I promise you my friends I'm going to chase him to the gates of hell. McCain got a loud round of applause after that simple dumb childish answer.

[gblady]

34. yeah.....

with Obama, the answers totally given a depth of consideration...
McCain...didn't even go through his brain...

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[SeattleGirl]

39. I love his answer.

It IS a tough decision for most women, and not an easy thing to go through.

Abortion should DEFINITELY be an option. And, so should birth control.

I'm so sick of assholes like McSame, flapping their gums about abortion being wrong. Sometimes, it IS the best choice for a woman, and as far as I'm concerned, men ought not to have a big say in it.

Sorry, DU guys, but it's not you who would have to carry a baby to term, and then struggle with either taking care of it, or giving it up for adoption.

The Reich Wing only cares about the fetus (and about keeping women down). Once the child is born, the couldn't care less about it, or the mother.