Barack About to Pick VP?? Email from Plouffe... anyone else get it

[dave29]

Dear X

Barack Obama is about to make one of the most important decisions of this campaign -- choosing a running mate.

You have helped build this movement from the bottom up, and Barack wants you to be the first to know his choice.

Sign up today to be the first to know:

http://my.barackobama.com/vp

[mnhtnbb]

1. Hmm.. Put an end to talk about Edwards.

[jesus_of_suburbia]

2. Well of course he's "about" to pick a VP. There isn't much time left.

I don't think there will be an announcement till the convention.

WE don't have long to wait AT ALL!


If it's not Hillary, he certainly won't announce it before the convention, because that's all the media would talk about.

[dkf]

3. It can't be Hillary. She's doing the keynote speech on day 2.

The VP nominee speaks on day 3.

[madfloridian]

6. Bill Clinton is speaking on Day 3

:shrug:

[dkf]

27. Right before the VP.

[Blondiegrrl]

61. I'm thinking that's Obama's way of bringing Clinton supporters into the fold.

What better way to say there's no hard feelings between the Clintons and Obama than to have Bill introduce the VP selection. It's as though he's saying, "I approve of the VP choice even though it's not Hillary."

[BlooInBloo]

37. hahahaa!!! The Surprise Test Paradox!

:rofl:

[jesus_of_suburbia]

48. you figured it out! Hillary will be VP!

Can't wait to see you campaign for her! *sarcasm off*

[BlooInBloo]

51. heh. I don't imagine that either she or I would want that.

[gateley]

4. You present a good argument --

if it is not Hillary and he were to announce prior to the convention, that's what all the media would be all over.

So, if Hillary's speaking the second day, and Bill is speaking the third -- which I read is traditionally the day the VP gives a speech, when in that time frame do you think they'd announce? How would that be handled?

When Bill is through, does Obama take the stage and say And now, Ladies and Gentlemen, I'd like to introduce my running mate...."?

I'm unfamiliar with the machinations of the convention. Thanks!!

[femmocrat]

5. There has been speculation that Bill is going to introduce Hillary as the VP choice.

:shrug:

Stay tuned....

[ErinBerin84]

7. anything's possible

but, I still think that if Hillary were the VP, they would choose someone other than Bill to introduce her, to show her as the new "star" Clinton of the democratic party.

[NYC_SKP]

8. NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Oh Dear Oh Dear Oh Dear.

Please, no.

I want to win, it's been so long....

[BeatleBoot]

13. It has been so long, you're right.

Since a Democrat won the White House.

Err...oh, except Bill Clinton won...not once, but TWICE.

The only Democratic President to win two terms since FDR.

But, NOOOOOOOOO! We wouldn't want to win again, would we?




:rofl:

[NYC_SKP]

20. Yeah, I heard, peace and prosperity...

And jobs going overseas, and outsourcing, and rich getting richer, and media consolidation and deregulation.

And no progress on fuel efficiency in automobiles, no leadership on energy.

Bill Clinton was not a great president, and he was scarcely a good democrat.

Like I said, it's been a long time.

:rofl:

[Alexander]

23. Funny how the Clinton crowd forgets NAFTA, DOMA, GATT, WTO, DMCA and MFN status with China...

All right-wing proposals, all of which happened under their idol Clinton's watch.

[NYC_SKP]

31. Thank you. It's easy to look good compared to the Bush presidencies,

..But being better than Bush or just being a Democrat doesn't make one a "great" president.

[NCarolinawoman]

74. I remember the best FEMA that ever existed---under Clinton and

his cabinet secretary James Lee Witt.

Of course my state, North Carolina, was pounded by hurricanes back in the 90's; so I would remember something like that. Thank goodness Bush and Brownie were not in charge back then.

[Alexander]

95. Compared to Bush, even mediocre presidents look good.

Remember when we took it for granted that government agencies weren't totally run by incompetent hacks?

[quickesst]

36. Clinton hater.....

"And jobs going overseas, and outsourcing, and rich getting richer, and media consolidation and deregulation."

.....pretending Bill's still president. Thanks.
quickesst

[NYC_SKP]

45. That's right. So What?

They are over, done, history.

Being better than Bush does not a great president make.

[Zhade]

81. Let's not forget the half a million dead Iraqi kids.

NT!

[Blondiegrrl]

64. Yeah, really. It's not like Obama needs any of those Independent

or moderate Republican votes that he'll lose if Hillary is on the ticket.

[TheWraith]

89. And Hillary is our best chance of losing. nt

[paulk]

15. then you should be hoping it's Hillary

since polls show she helps, not hurts, Obama in his quest to win the Presidency.

"In late June, polls conducted by The Wall Street Journal/NBC and Fox/Opinion Dynamics -- using entirely different samples -- both showed Sen. Clinton giving Sen. Obama a +3% bump, pushing him over 51% for the first time, when the two of them were paired against Sen. McCain and Gov. Romney.

Most recently, in nationwide polling on July 22-23, a Fox/Opinion Dynamics poll showed a more dramatic bump of +8% with Sen. Clinton as Sen. Obama's vice presidential running mate. In a head-on match, it was Sen. Obama 41% to Sen. McCain's 40% (this was before the intense media coverage of his European trip). But with exactly the same sample, when all voters were presented with the choice of an Obama-Clinton ticket vs. McCain-Romney, the results were Obama-Clinton, 48% (+7%), and McCain-Romney 39% (-1%). "

[NYC_SKP]

16. For every poll that shows her as a plus, there's one that doesn't.

And, they are just polls.

She and Bill have not been vetted, it's too dangerous, what polls show now cannot be applied to what would in fact happen.

Not going to happen.

I owe you a beer if it does.

:toast:

[Alexander]

24. She helps with Democrats but hurts with Republicans and Independents.

That's the gist of what these polls are telling us.

[NYC_SKP]

32. Exactly. nt

[paulk]

34. are you sure about that?

"*Sen. Clinton is polarizing and will rev up the Republican base.

In fact, the data proves the reverse is true: Sen. Clinton has little or no effect on Republican preferences in a race against Sen. McCain -- and she helps Sen. Obama significantly among Democrats.

According to the July 22-23 Fox/Opinion Dynamics poll, in an Obama-McCain head-on match-up, Sen. Obama gets just 74% of the Democrats and 6% of the Republicans. With Sen. Clinton as his running mate vs. a McCain-Romney ticket, Sen. Obama's Democratic vote goes up to 86%--a significant 12% increase. As for Republican voters, rather than getting "revved up" because of Hillary's presence on the ticket, there was no effect at all: The Obama-Clinton ticket gains 3% (from 6% to 9% among Republicans), whereas McCain-Romney gains the same 3% (from 82% to 85%).

So what about independents? An Obama-Clinton ticket appears to gain some strength in this critical swing-voter group. With an Obama-McCain head-on contest, independents are evenly divided, 32%-30%, with Sen. Obama over Sen. McCain. But with an Obama-Clinton ticket vs. a McCain-Romney ticket, the independents favor Obama-Clinton 38%-30%--a statistically significant 6% increase in a crucial voter group. "

[Alexander]

46. One FOX poll does little to discredit all the other polls out there...

All of which suggest that Clinton would hurt us with Republicans and Independents.

[Blondiegrrl]

66. LOL. It's a Fox poll? Surely it's not biased.

[paulk]

93. do you have evidence that the poll in question is not credible?

or that opinion dynamics is not a credible pollster?

perhaps you would like to post one of those other polls out there that backs your position?

[Alexander]

97. Oh, please. What am I, your nanny? Do your own research next time.

In the meantime, here are some polls you are apparently too lazy to go find for yourself.

http://cbs5.com/campaign08/clinton.vice.president.2.744025.html

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1530

[paulk]

108. from your article

"For now, there is no definitive answer whether Clinton would help or hurt Democrats. Gallup and CNN polls last week showed the Democratic ticket doing slightly better against McCain with Clinton on Obama's ticket than when Obama and McCain were paired without running mates."


What's the point of the Zogby poll?

Am I supposed top take a poll that concludes that Colin Powell should be Obama's running mate seriously?


As for your gratuitous insults, while I realize it's a staple of your posting style, when you make a claim wouldn't it be reasonable to back that claim up with some hard evidence? It's not a matter of me "doing my own research". You're the one who made the claim, it's your job to back it up.

[awoke_in_2003]

113. "do you have evidence that the poll in question is not credible?"

Yeah, really, who would ever question the credibility of anything the fine Fox Network would do? :sarcasm:

[qwlauren35]

58. What happens if it's not Romney???

The poll makes a faulty assumption, and as such, the data is questionable, even though I'd like to believe it.

[FatDave]

107. As I read this, I was thinking "Gee, that poll seems out of skew".

Guess I was right.

Obama winning the primaries is the best thing that could have happened to us. It's not what the republicans expected, and it's not what they (McCain included) were prepared for. With Hillary, they had a well laid out, easy to execute plan. Barack blind-sided them. I realize we're democrats, but let's try not to fuck this good thing up.

[Ichingcarpenter]

47. I have Republican neighbors that will vote for Obama and not McCain

Clinton on the ticket would make them reconsider.

[my3boyz]

86. Yup! My supervisor is a Republican. She despises McCain.

She really despises Hillary. She likes Barack. She is supporting Barack this year. However, during the primary season she said if Hillary was our nominee she would become John McCain's best friend. LOL She sent me an email yesterday complaining about John McCain and what a sleazy campaign he is running.

[Eric Condon]

62. She shouldn't have to help with "Democrats."

If someone is really a Democrat, then Obama won't need any help getting their vote.

[my3boyz]

87. The above poster is referring to the racist dems. nt

[Alexander]

98. Yes, and we don't need her on the ticket just to get racists to vote for us.

[paulk]

28. post them.

[NYC_SKP]

38. Right, sure, I've got nothing better to do.....

:sarcasm:

Seriously, go find them yourself.

I don't care enough about convincing you to put any effort into it.

yawn.

[paulk]

42. you're the one who made the claim, not me.

back it up or lose your credibility.

[NYC_SKP]

44. Well how about I retract it? VP Hillary Clinton will make Obama King!!!!

:rofl:

Independents and Republicans will swarm to the voting booths.

Credibility, indeed. Am I going to lose DU credibility points, or just with you?

OMG :fear:

[greguganus]

50. Your credibility is dead to us now.

:rofl:

[paulk]

92. why don't you just post a poll that backs up your position instead?

you want to play with the grownups, act like one.

[Zhade]

82. A majority of polled registered voters DO NOT want her on his ticket.

So, you're wrong.

[Ichingcarpenter]

84. Remember the clinton crowd never believed in polls or the truth

unless she was on the tarmac of Bill Clinton's supportive lies
about that story.

[Zhade]

96. Oh, I remember. Some of them STILL can't accept the fact that she lied about Tuzla.

NT!

[Alexander]

99. Many here can't believe John Edwards cheated and fathered a child...

That's why hero worship is so dangerous.

[gateley]

9. I've heard that, too, BUT

Why have her speak the night before Bill, if she's just going to speak again as VP candidate the next night?

[NYC_SKP]

11. Well, I'm sure she wouldn't mind...

Sucking up all the air in the room, twice.

[question everything]

12. Chelsea will - there is a thread about it someplace (nt)

[Whisp]

19. please don't make me cry.....

:sobs:

[Ichingcarpenter]

21. I heard it was a socks the cat speaking through a sock puppet

either that or Penn will introduce somebody.

[dkf]

33. Nope. Hillary is keynote speaker on 2nd day.

Bill is on 3rd day before VP nominee.

[WheelWalker]

60. Gezactly.

[NYC_SKP]

10. Hell yeah, I signed up...

I'll happily pay for the text message to find out who is going to help us win.

:thumbsup:

[rhombus]

14. Hmm, no email to me yet

Are you on some kinda special list?:hi:

[eshfemme]

17. Signed up. I just wanna know GODDAMMIT! n/t

[butterfly77]

18. The republicons have been on television...

all morning trying to get him to choose, Evan Byah the wrong choice...

[jesus_of_suburbia]

22. I think it's gonna be Hillary, and she's gonna speak twice. That way, it will be a shock when

Barack introduces her as his VP.

Nobody will expect it because she already spoke.

And the Presidency will be won at that point.

Obama/Clinton '08.

UN-FREAKIN-STOPPABLE!

[dkf]

35. yeah that makes sense. Give her two days to speak. haha.

[jesus_of_suburbia]

49. yeah, let's see, dkf, why so bitter? I hope your bitterness is towards the Republicans and not

Hillary.

[Zhade]

83. Keep dreaming, it won't be clinton when you wake up.

NT!

[nxylas]

110. When did the element of surprise become the most important consideration?

I'm not just talking about this comment, there seems to be a general assumption on DU that "it'll be a surprise" is the number 1 qualification in a running mate. I mean, Bernie Mac would be a surprise with him being a) a comedian and b) dead, but that doean't mean to say he'd be the best choice of VP candidate.

[DarthDem]

25. Just Got the E-mail

. . . yup. I signed up imemdiately. Heck, I think I'll be a nerd and sign up for the text message notification too. :applause:

I think it will be Hillary. And the win will be sealed. The Rethuglicans will be just as demoralized as half of DU.

Seriously, though - - Kaine was just a headfake and a nod to Virginia voters confirming that Obama is taking them seriously. I think Bayh (who expected to be picked himself last Wednesday) was the same deal, for Indiana. I think Biden, Richardson or Clark would all being strengths, but Hillary is far and away the best choice. And folks . . . the convention speaking arrangements can be changed on a moment's notice. This guy and his campaign know how to run big-media events, remember? :-)

[dkf]

40. email is too slow. I signed up for text and got my notification of receipt already!

I can't wait.

[DarthDem]

78. Me Too!

VERRRRY media-savvy campaign. A nice change. :-)

[dkf]

91. Not media savvy...tech savvy. Too bad McCain hasn't got a clue.

With him we will be in the dark ages.

[Alexander]

26. I think it will be Feingold. Outside chance it's Hillary Clinton.

But if not Hillary Clinton, I bet it's Feingold.

[cbc5g]

29. Don't get your hopes up

It's gonna be Bayh. It'll be a midwest ticket. I wanted Warner or Clinton but eh, not happenin.

[KittyWampus]

30. the stupidity of suggesting it's Clinton, at this point, is mind-numbing.

[Alexander]

39. The only possible reason he'd do it is to appease the PUMA crowd.

But they're such a small and irrational group of racists that I don't think he'd bother.

[jesus_of_suburbia]

53. Please don't pull the race card. Our candidate doesn't. It makes you look very desperate.

Hillary has more fans than the PUMA idiots. I'm one.

Obama has my vote no matter what, but I'd be elated if he chooses Clinton.



And I think there are 18 million people who would be so happy to see Hillary as VP that aren't racist.



Again, please don't pull the race card. Our candidate doesn't. It makes you look very desperate.

[Joe the Revelator]

56. The PUMA folks are racists...

Since he was refering to the PUMAs I see no problem with him calling it like it is. He wasn't speaking about all Hillary supporters, just the PUMAs. Its really quite clear.

[Faygo Kid]

69. Agreed. Cut the defense of them here at DU.

They play hardball like nobody else.

We need to push back, not enable them.

[Alexander]

100. PUMAs are racists. That's a fact. Don't like it? Tough.

Thankfully most Clinton supporters are not PUMAs.

But I will not apologize for calling a spade a spade, nor should you expect me to.

[politicasista]

111. They don't like themselves

I know cause one that was a chronic Obama hater posts on a urban music board.

[AllentownJake]

71. The PUMA crowd wouldn't be won over even if she was VP

[Alexander]

104. Right. They want to hijack the convention and make her nominee.

Which is why I don't think he'll choose someone to appease people like this.

[Ichingcarpenter]

43. Bill........ is not vetted... will not be vetted .... has not been vetted

Numerous news items on that yet still they persist its Hillary.

Mind numbing ......... that's what crack or cocaine does to you

[DarthDem]

79. Oh? Why?

Apart from the fact that you're being a tool by calling people you don't agree with "stupid," what's your rationale? I'm bracing for the same tired talking points.

[Alexander]

101. Watch the Tuzla video with Hillary's "sniper fire" comment playing.

Then imagine the phrase "I'm John McCain and I approve this message" at the end.

The race will be over.

[DarthDem]

112. No

That's . . . almost childishly simplistic. One ad, directed against the VICE-PRESIDENTIAL nominee, is going to make the race "be over"? Um, I really, really doubt it.

[nc4bo]

41. yup, can't wait to hear! nt

[Jakes Progress]

52. Yeah,

just you and me and about 20 million others.

[DCBob]

54. Got response back

Sent the text message about 15 minutes ago and just got a response back saying:

Welcome to Obama Mobile. You will now be one of the 1st notified when the VP candidate is selected. (Priority: Emergency)

[book_worm]

55. that doesn't mean he will pick one tomorrow or even this week

it just means the time is near which it is.

[BklynChick]

57. brilliant tactic to get everyone's cell phone number, and of course I signed up. I'm thinking he's

gonna decide when he gets back from his vacation and just a few days before the Convention

[ecstatic]

63. Yeah. I was about to provide mine but stopped short...

I figure it'll be all over the news and at most I might be a few hours late. But I just can't take the risk of endless spam texts (not on an unlimited text plan).

[Avalux]

76. I signed up with Obama's campaign early on in the primary.

I get important text alerts from them - they don't spam. I think you'd be OK.

The alert I got today said Obama will pick his VP between now and the convention.

[Blondiegrrl]

67. I hope Barack random crank calls me.

"Is your refrigerator running? Then you'd better go catch it!"


:rofl:

[Alexander]

102. I'd be happy with a drunk dial where he tells me who his VP choice is.

Or better yet, he asks me personally for my advice.

[Joe Bacon]

59. I think Obama has a wild card up his sleeve.

It may be someone not even on the radar yet!

[factcheckr]

73. How about Joe Sestak?

[Joe Bacon]

77. Mindreader!

That's one of the wild cards I think Obama has in his hand!

[Alexander]

103. Sestak had 13 staffers quit on him, and we need that seat in the House.

I hope he's not the pick right now, it took quite a bit of work to get that seat.

[WheelWalker]

65. I think it's (gasp!) Jerry Brown.

[Faygo Kid]

68. Maybe Jerry Lewis.

Well known, MDA, kind of a nasty attack dog type.

Perfect Veep.

[WheelWalker]

70. Probably not...he's the original Jerk.

[awoke_in_2003]

114. Why not Jerry Lee Lewis-

would be cool to have a VP whose nickname is the Killer. Wait a minute, we already do, and it ain't cool :)

[mrs_p]

72. just got it. nt

[Avalux]

75. I got a text message today.

VP pick will be announced via text message between now and the convention. :D

[RBInMaine]

80. Yup. Got it. It'll probably be Bayh or Kaine. I'm betting on Kaine.

[snowbear]

85. I think the revelation on how big of a Lieberman fanatic Kaine was made him less likely...

.
.
.

Or at least, I hope it did.

Not that I don't like the guy.. I'm sure he's a fine governor. But reading about how big of a Lieberman supporter he was.. even campaigning for the weasle instead of John Kerry, really grosses me out.

[Top Cat]

88. I received an email from Plouffe

The suspense is almost over.

[ccharles000]

90. I got it.

[windbreeze]

94. yep, sure did....n/t

[alwysdrunk]

105. Got it then came straight to DU

Looking for some inside info so I can really be first.

Also, everybody here should have got the email. If you didn't get the email then you haven't contributed to the campaign. Shame on you. (unless you're broke)

[polichick]

106. The campaign made that announcement last week at office openings.

[President Decider]

109. MSM is pissed that Obama isn't going to them with "scoop" first ...

Honestly, I believe the main stream media is perpetually "HACKED" at Obama because he's a non-conformist to their (i.e., MSM's) protocol and establishment ....

I see MSNBC is saying this "email" thing to announce his Vice Presidency is somewhat "strange" ...

Ha, there just pissed because he's going straight to the American people who are supporting him first, and the media doesn't get to break any stories.