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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:14 PM
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Andrea Mitchell: It may be Obama's Fault that there are bitter feelings with Hillary's Supporters
She raised these points during her interview with Bill Daley, Obama supporter.
1. Obama and his supporters have not made it easy for her and her supporters to come on board
2. Obama has only raised $500,000 to help erase her debt

Mr. Daley did a good job defending Obama and explaining his positions.

Andrea then pointed out that Joe Biden has attacked McCain by saying that there is no daylight between Bush and McCain since McCain has embraced all of the failed Bush policies. Andrea believes that Obama needs a "scrappy" VP in the mold of Biden and asked Daley if he endorsed Biden for VP. Daley said that he endorses Biden as a friend and that he admires Biden.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:18 PM
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1. I think Biden would be good..... but is he too "insider" for Obama's change message?
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:22 PM
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3. I think his candid nature may negate his insider status
We shall see. I'd be happy with Biden on the ticket over a DLCer, that's for damn sure.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:23 PM
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6. And Biden would burn McCain at the stake like the heretic that he is.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:21 PM
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2. Gosh, only $500,000?
How evil is that?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:25 PM
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10. Yeah, if Obama raised me $500,000 for implying that he might be a Muslim, sending
out a surrogate to say that he's the affirmative action candidate, suggesting that McCain was a better choice for President, and bringing up assassination under the guise of "you never know what can happen", I'd be pissed too--I mean, ONLY half a million for all that effort to discredit him. Obama owes her so much more, clearly.
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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:36 PM
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16. Yeah, and after all of that
Obama still have not welcomed the Clinton's with open-arms!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:22 PM
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4. did you know the McCain money bundler scandal involves a guy who also gathered money for Clinton?
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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:23 PM
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5. Is McCain helping Mitt Romney on an of his unpaid campaign bills?
If there aren't any, let's just say hypothetically! If Mitt Romney had racked up a couple of million dollar dept, would John McCain be made to help pay that back? Just curious.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:23 PM
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7. Bull Hockey.
She stayed in the race after she had lost the primary, and loaned herself money to attack Obama.

This is a stupid ridiculous situation.

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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:24 PM
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8. She has 18 million Voices .... they send a dollar each .... debt is gone. n/t
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 01:32 PM
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25. 18 million voters, and she can't get 2% of them to send $100 each.
Edited on Thu Aug-07-08 01:33 PM by TexasObserver
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 02:58 PM
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34. The point I've been making for months! With all this touting and bragging about
18 million voters (a dubious claim at best), why can't they simply give her a $1 each. Problem solved! Please tell me again why it is *Obama's* responsibility to pay off a debt, much of which was used to slime and trash him, even when she knew that he had lost way back in February? Tell me again why he has to lick her and Bill's ass? To suggest as much is so incredibly insulting. They demand respect but show this man absolutely none!!
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:48 AM
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42. There's something ridiculous about this campaign debt thingie
It's not really debt. The Clintons are rich. After the campaign was clearly lost, they lent their own money to buy the kitchen sink. They were thinking that no matter what they did, they could force Obama to bail them out in exchange for their support. Bill could just go give a month's worth of speeches and they'd be back where they started.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:24 PM
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9. Have Hillary's supporters ever stopped to think that Obama is a bit busy, right now?
He has only raised $500K? He doesn't have an obligation to erase her debt. The fact she wouldn't face facts might have had something to do with it. She was making an investment in her future and failed. Tell me again why he should pay down her debt?

Obama is busy running for president. Why don't Bill and Hillary go out and make a couple speeches...write a book about how awful Obama treated them, if that's what they believe. They'll refill their bank account. If that is the only thing they are concerned about, shame on them. She knew there was a chance she wouldn't win, so get over it. They should be more concerned about how we are going to get this country back on its proper course. Stop the whining, already.

If she and Bill screw up Obama's chances, she can forget ever running again. Everyone I know is thoroughly disgusted with both of them.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:27 PM
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11. What's he supposed to do, put a gun to his donors' heards?
If they don't want to donate to Hillary, despite his requests, that's her too bad.

I'm all for unity, but it's not Barack Obama's fault her campaign is in debt.

And what is he supposed to do to make it easier for them to come on board (BESIDES NAMING HER VP)?
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:27 PM
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12. If someone were to go into debt from broadcasting slimy negative ads against me...
... I think I'd be a little reticent about paying off that debt, too, or at least it would be some distance down my to-do list, just below getting my toenails painted bright orange. Who can blame him or his campaign for finding lots of better things to do?
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 01:36 PM
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26. Exactly.
:thumbsup:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:31 PM
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13. You have to translate for Mrs. Greenspan, from Hillspeak to RealSpeak.
HillSpeak:
"1. Obama and his supporters have not made it easy for her and her supporters to come on board"

RealSpeak:
"1. Hillary's supporters think they should be given titles and treated special, and they whine when they don't get their way."

HillSpeak:
"2. Obama has only raised $500,000 to help erase her debt"

RealSpeak:
"2. Hillary doesn't want to get off her ass to help the ticket unless there is money in it for her now."
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:32 PM
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14. That's blatant stupidity.
In the first place, the primaries are over, we have a presumptive nominee, his name is Barack Obama. If there are some die-hard Clintonites who are still too bitter to get on board, that's really their problem. Nothing will satisfy some of them (except possibly Hillary as VP). If they're going to stand around and whine that they aren't getting the ass-kissing they feel entitled to, then they have a problem.

In the second place, it isn't really incumbent on Obama to do anything to retire Clinton's campaign debt; that he's done as much as he has is commendable, but given the Clintons' name recognition and Bill's star power and the speaking fees he commands, perhaps Bill isn't doing enough to help Hillary retire her debt either. Why anyone would expect a diversion of fundraising efforts to pay the bills of a losing campaign when general election season is about to get into full swing and money is needed for campaigning against the GOP just makes very little sense, and really sounds like nothing more or less than lingering bitterness. For that matter, one can question why these Hillary supporters aren't helping her retire her debt; after all, not all of them can have contributed the maximum.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:33 PM
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15. With HRC, it's always all about her.... never the Democratic party.
Get over yourself, Hill. Obama won. You aren't owed anything.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 01:17 PM
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18. Get over it yourself
Hillary wasn't being interviewed. Hillary has said she supports Obama 100%.

If you have a problem it's with Andrea Mitchell and some of Hillary's supporters. Hillary is doing all she can to bring her supporters on board. Comments like yours HURT Obama because they alienate people who will vote for him if they are treated with respect. Obama is doing that. You should follow his lead.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 01:23 PM
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21. HRC supporters shouldn't have to have their asses kissed to vote properly.
Edited on Thu Aug-07-08 01:24 PM by azmouse
It's more than time that you and other HRC people got over her loss and stopped obsessing over every little thing said about her.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:37 PM
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17. Or it may just be a slow news day and the GOP media slags are
trying to gin up a story for the rest of the week.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 01:20 PM
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19. Who do I call to get Andrea Mitchell an impromptu long term vacation from the Presidential Election
Edited on Thu Aug-07-08 01:21 PM by vaberella
or politics in general. After the presidential election and Obama is inaugurated she can come back and spout her nonsense.
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ObamaIL Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 01:24 PM
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22. Greenspan
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:25 AM
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38. Yes, he's still on the chair at the FED, but he doesn't go into the office in NYC regularly.
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ObamaIL Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 01:23 PM
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20. Hasn't Obama Hired Like Half Her Staff?? nt
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 01:24 PM
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23. Please. Money Has Nothing to Do With It
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 01:29 PM
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24. We shouldn't be hearing anything about "Hillary Supporters"
They either support the Democratic nominee, or they support John McCain.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 02:29 PM
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28. Why not?
I am still a Dean supporter and a Kucinich supporter. :shrug:
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 07:48 PM
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37. Are you planning on casting a vote for Howard or Dennis for President in 2008?
Too many "Hillary Supporters" are actively working against the election of Barack and other Democrats.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:40 AM
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41. and she's STILL calling him "my opponent"
:grr:

that's what she called him the other day as she stirred the pot some more with "her ladies".. I guess too many of them were supporting the nominee, and departing from the fray..
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 02:28 PM
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27. Andrea also said yesterday that Obama is not a good debater.
So, I think her bias is totally obvious now.
She will go on Hardball and other programs and try to place more doubt on Obama over the next 6 weeks, but there is no way McStuffy is going to "hold his own" during the debates.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 02:54 PM
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32. She's doing him a favor
if she lowers expectations.
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Basement Beat Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 02:38 PM
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29. With all this Clinton news, I can only picture....
'me,me,me,me,me,me,me'.

It'll be nice if we can focus on the person that actually won the primaries.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 02:51 PM
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30. Why are people trying to start the primary wars over again?
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 02:52 PM
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31. and that would be a vast UNDERSTATEMENT...
Edited on Thu Aug-07-08 02:53 PM by TankLV
too many of his "supporters" here are poster-boys/girls for the OP...

and they will decend/have already decended on this thread like the POX they are...
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 02:57 PM
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33. Total bullshit.
Obama has been nothing but gracious to Hillary and her team. It's not his responsibility to retire her debt, debt she incurred running against him! It's not my responsibility to help out the Clintons with their bills. I'm responsible for fulfilling the obligations as a citizen of the United States, which is to do all I can to get a Democrat elected. Obama is the nominee.

I also don't necessarily believe that any of this is actually being said by the Clintons. The media is making shit up to divide the Democrats and give their total loser candidate McCreepy a shot at winning.

Shame on Andrea Mitchell.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 03:10 PM
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35. That's $500,000 more than he raised for me!
:eyes:
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gblady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 04:22 PM
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36. it's always....
Obama's fault...isn't it?
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:30 AM
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39. what bullshit.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:37 AM
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40. Well , shame on him, for winning..
and it's NOt his fault that she ran up $25+million in debts..

Maybe she should have quit when her money ran out or when she lost...in late feb/early mar..

He opted OUT of federal money, so he has a short window of time to amass money from HIS contributors.. It's not their responsibility to pony up cash for the person who made his life miserable for months, made mccain commercials to be run against him in the general, and caused him to get a late start..

She claims to have 18 million supporters...$2 times 18 million is more than enough to retire her debt and set her up for her run for Governor of NY.. C'Mon Hillary supporters..pony up a measly $2 each, and let Obama's people support Obama..:)
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:07 AM
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43. Who cares what Mrs Greenspan thinks?
She's a pug.
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