Anybody happen to notice a herd of downer-bots on this board this weekend?

[patrice]

Regular Dems or not?

This campaign IS harder than some people have been thinking it would be. But it's very far from a done deal at this point.

Seems like an awful lot of people around saying the sky is falling. I've decided to discount them by, say, 1/3. Is that giving them too much?

[TexasObserver]

1. You're right. There was a herd of them.

It appeared to be some of the last remnants of the dearly departed. It looked like a hodge podge of zombies, sock puppets, and long dormant back door accounts.

And the usual dozen who attack him relentlessly and add their obligatory "but I will vote for Obama."

[tedoll78]

2. Hmm..

In return, I could say that we have tons of PollyAnnas who think that everything is fine, and that being on defense all the time is a wonderful way to win an election.

Both sides have good points to make. I'm not going to question someone's party loyalties just because they have honest problems with how Obama is running his campaign.

[geek tragedy]

4. Exactly.

It's amazing to see people ignoring the obvious results of last week and then castigating those of us who had our eyes open.

[patrice]

12. Divide much?

If you'll read my posts from the last couple of days, my message was that we need to go on the offense.

I think those polls should be taken very seriously, but not to the point of Oppression . . . .

Oh well, one person's "castigation" is another person's "discussion".

Have a good day, geek tragedy.

:hi:

[geek tragedy]

15. Well, from my perspective there was a lot of

"shut you troll Obama knows what he's doing and his plan is working perfectly."

Turns out, us 'concern trolls' were right and those who insisted that Obama's plan was working were wrong.

[patrice]

40. Sorry about that! ALL of us, at ALL levels of power, need to practice, practice, practice . . .

R - E - S - P - E - C - T

However, that doesn't mean that you can't say what needs to be said.

[Bobbie Jo]

37. Lo and Behold...like flies to the light.

...and CLICK, they're all over it. :shrug:

You're not the only one who has noticed the "trend."...as it were.. ;-)

[patrice]

8. Agreed.

. . . just sayin' it DOES happen.

Maybe only 1/4 or less of them were actual subversives, but it doesn't take a whole lot to create a maelstrom.

[LiberalAndProud]

22. The pessimism isn't helpful.

It's demoralizing. Part of Barack's winning charm is the sense of optimism he brings. I choose to be optimistic while continuing to work to get Obama elected. An Eyeore-like attitude won't energize the troops.

[tedoll78]

23. It isn't going to always be happy-happy-joy-joy.

The campaign showing an unwillingness to fight last week wasn't very helpful either. What kind of message does that send to the troops?

[geek tragedy]

3. No, it's a matter of the campaign having a bad week.

Look, people can sit here and pretend that the Obama campaign is infallible, but the reality is that McCain dominated Obama last week. Obama's economy message WAS NOT HEARD. Obama lost a nine-point lead in Gallup and is behind in Rasmussen.

Why? Because McCain was attacking, and Obama was defending. And Obama's defense was whiny--acting as if voters give a shit about things like "divisiveness" and "civility."

Obama is on the attack this week, and things will therefore improve.

[glowing]

6. Personally, I thought the McCain came accross as a nasty, old man.

If you see the response, people didn't like the negativity. Thought it was unbecoming of their serious issues they want addressed. McCain is attacking because he doesn't have anything.

[geek tragedy]

7. Well, you're not a swing voter.

We can't trust our own reactions to these ads--we have to follow other indicia.

[glowing]

16. I do work with the public, and many are saying the same thing in FL...

It is unbecoming...

[treestar]

27. That is very true. Then again second guessing the Obama

campaign is not entirely valid, either. There is some degree to which they are the professionals. They can learn from 2004.

The Rovian idea of attacking the strengths just seems to be pure evil and causes me to lose respect for the average American swing voter that they don't recognize that and let it get to them. They may not be lacking in intelligence so much as in principles and the morality they are so loud about - otherwise, why reward that negative behavior with victory?

It is proving a difficult task to figure out how to counter that tactic, too. Hitting back is instinctive, but indeed might not work. The M$M could take up the Republican cause and suddenly find those tactics unacceptable, when coming from the Democratic side. That is not an unrealistic fear. There is nothing so hypocritical as a rethuglican, and their arrogance stems from the fact it seems to work. Look how arrogantly McInsane takes the attitude that he is entitled to question the opposition on things he does himself.

[H2O Man]

5. Yes.

Flocks of sticks-in-the-mud, and herds of bumps-on-a-logs.

[patrice]

11. Mornin' H2O Man!

"God" Bless!

. . . gotta get to work now, see you later.

:hi: :hi: :hi:

[H2O Man]

20. Good morning.

I suppose that in a party symbolized with a donkey, there is always going to be a minority Eeyore wing. It is said that a little rain falls on each of us .... some more so than others.

[Coexist]

9. maybe not a herd... maybe a gaggle, or a pride

:0)

[patrice]

10. think I'll opt for "gaggle", as in geese, alarmists, but not the brightest creatures in the world.

[WeDidIt]

13. IT was a mob

and they had a mob mentality.

Put Down Obama as much as possible seemed the meme. I've noticed it in the media with certain folks who supported Hillary in the porimary who now take any opportunity to dis Obama.

[sui generis]

14. well, failing to address THE MEDIA's spin is denial

I'm not a downer-bot or whatever other dehumanizing thing you can say to feel superior about yourself, but realistically we have to address perceptions.

If WE here on DU can be "down", imagine what people who just occasionally "check in" on the news get. So we sit here and tell ourselves that Obama shits golden turds and walks on water and everyone else is a downer bot -- really what does that get you?

If you want a warm fuzzy eat a ripe peach.

[LowerManhattanite]

17. Fuck 'em and move forward. n/t

[ClassWarrior]

18. If some people thought this campaign wouldn't be hard, they're living in la-la-land.

And I don't mean Los Angeles.

NGU.

[BeyondGeography]

19. There will be many twists and turns; good weeks and bad weeks

and the reason isn't the campaign or even the media; it's that people aren't paying attention and, even when they do, you can have no confidence that they'll react responsibly.

What reassures me is that Obama's overseas trip, which was fraught with peril for him (one false move and we'd be hearing 24/7 how the inexperienced, unpatriotic Muslim can't be trusted with the country) went so well that it permanently compromised McCain's foreign affairs/c-in-c arguments, forcing him to go Lee Atwater very early in the game. Of course it moves his numbers with perenially fickle white men, but, to me, it's a sign of weakness on his part. Until I see Obama giving ground on a key issue or make a damaging error, I'm not going to fret before we even go to the convention, no matter what the polls say.

[Peacetrain]

21. There seemed to be an amen corner this weekend

Not sure what brought it all on, but there it was. Sometimes I get the feeling that a few, a very few are waiting for sky to fall so they can say "I told you so". Just a feeling, I could be wrong.

[LWolf]

24. No.

But then, I didn't spend much time in GDP.

:shrug:

[AwakeAtLast]

25. I caught a pic of one of 'em

:hi:

[LowerManhattanite]

26. “Wap-wa-a-a-ahhhhhh!” LOL!

[TexasObserver]

31. LOL!

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

28. A few "chicken-little"s can't hurt

This campaign should be a no-brainer slam-dunk for Obama. Republicans have shown that they have no sense of financial responsibility, in addition to their traditional lack of social responsibility. McCain in particular doesn't show any sense of fundie-family-values, which is usually very important to the Republican base.

So why is it as close as some polls indicate? Bad polls? Or is this a tougher campaign than I thought it would be?

Anyway, apparently we can't just fall asleep 'til November. We may have to keep contributing to Obama.

"herd of downer-bots". I like it. Reminds me of "Night of the Living Dead".

[DailyGrind51]

29. MSM contributes to Dem pessimism!

All we see is knit-picking at Obama, with McCain getting a pass on major blunders.

[MyNameGoesHere]

30. Is a downer-bot someone who sees that

it's virtually a tie and wonders wtf is going on? FUCK i am a downer-bot.

[babylonsister]

33. No kidding. nt

[TheWraith]

35. It's not virtually a tie.

First off, Obama's polling better than either candidate in 2004. Second, polls don't take into account turnout, new voters, and enthusiasm level. All the indicators are as good or better this year than in 2006, and we haven't even hit the debates yet.

[MyNameGoesHere]

36. But you do not count.

everyday the American people see the msm telling them it's a tie. Sorry but you don't have that sway.

[rockymountaindem]

38. The voter entheusiasm thing was supposed to put us over the top in 2004

How'd that work for us?

[patrice]

41. I see that too and it's scaring me; tryin' not to "jump off the roof"

also tryin' to be no bot of any kind.

I must!! get out and knock on a few doors; that'll make me feel better!

[Arnold Judas Rimmer]

32. Downer-bots?? Is Kryten here too?

[TheWraith]

34. You're right on the money. Trolls, PUMAs, and the usual suspects.

Taking any opportunity to trash Obama under the veil of "concern."

[Kokonoe]

39. My sky is falling intervention post was strictly spiritual clairvoyance.

Ok, nobody believes that silly stuff.

Sorry for the panic, but it was time to pick up the train and put it on different tracks.