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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:40 PM Original message |
Obama supports the offshore drilling plan of the Gang of 10. Some details... |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. This stinks. And I'm disgusted he's supporting it. nt |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. It Might Be One of Those "Piecrust Promises" So Common to Elections |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Yes, I'm prepared for those. But they seem to be piling up. Fingers crossed. nt |
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quantass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 06:39 AM Response to Reply #27 |
72. Reading Obama I just dont get the sense that he'll go thru w/ it -- "Piecrust Promise" indeed! |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. just the latest in a now lengthening list of complete 180's he's made... |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. A fair point - FISA, Off-Shore Drilling, & the ridiuclous 1000 rebate economic |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #29 |
50. There is no excuse - you're so right. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
66. I just "love" all the usual suspects who come out to express "concern" |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. Emphasis on the words "Florida gets no choice." |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
18. That should be a what the fuck moment for the Florida tourism industry |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
43. So what do we do, now that Obama just shat in our backyard? |
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ErinBerin84 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. depressing.......thanks for all of your research on this. |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
4. Good for Obama. He knows a losing issue when he sees one. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Wait till Floridians hear that Florida will be given no choice. Bam. |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Again, his position neutralizes the only strength McCain had this election cycle. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. good politics for those living in Oregon perhaps |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. You only repeat the same phrase...you don't see anything but political posing. |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I'm sorry if I see a McCain administration infinitely more harmful than this one bill. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Being okay with everything is just wrong. |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Good politics to throw all of your ideals out the window |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Politics is a game, and it isn't even a fair game. The media is against us because of |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Well, GarbageMan, you won. He gave in. |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
65. All that means is |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
30. ahh - I see now - "neutralizes" - as in fully SURRENDERS to the repukes on this... |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. I thought Floridians were in favor of offshore drilling. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. They were for it according to some polls recently. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. I live in Florida... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Well, they got it now. With no choice. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Now that might just upset some people... |
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FlaDem83 (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 07:01 AM Response to Reply #20 |
58. People are so stupid. |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
41. Exactly right. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
11. Please reconcile.... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Those statements are in the OP..... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Thanks..the media doing what they do best. n/t |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. The paper included those quotes...so did I. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. You say "Obama supports" he says "I remain skeptical". Please reconcile. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Did you read this part? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Good 'nuff - thanks! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
28. The only Democrat of the 10 I could find was Kent Conrad... |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Blanche Lincoln from Arkansas, Ben Nelson from Nebraska, Mary Landreau from Louisiana |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Only Landrieu is on the coast...always votes with oil. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
53. In Louisiana we already drill off of our coastline |
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suzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 04:46 AM Response to Reply #38 |
70. Inland States |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #37 |
67. Every one of them is DLC nt |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
32. Great - Pelosi FINALLY stands up to the Republicans, and Obama caves... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I was thinking that. The same day wasn't it? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Yeah, same day - I was so happy she walked out on them... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
36. Obama must have had another visit from the DLC or Chamber of Commerce . . !!! |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
39. When Obama justifies possible offshore drilling |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. He could tell the truth, but then he'd lose. |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. The title of your post |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. More than any other candidate, Obama has chosen truth over expediency... |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
40. Can't defend him on this decision |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
42. You forget that Fl./CA polled positive for off-shore drilling |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. That's because many voters don't know it's a scam... |
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cyberpj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Statistics show that he didn't educate enough on the tax holiday gimmick either - |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I think he needs to hold an energy summit, with well-known experts to explain things clearly. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I haven't forgotten. We have anchors like John Wilson spouting propaganda |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
48. The "policy shop" was ready and waiting with answers on drilling offshore. |
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Holly_Hobby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
51. WTF??? |
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bigmoon (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
52. Would this not let the states decide if they want to drill? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:27 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Not Florida. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 06:35 AM Response to Original message |
57. there is a world wide shortage of deep water drilling equipment |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 07:06 AM Response to Original message |
59. Stupid move on Obama's part |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #59 |
69. Well if it does take years |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
60. A majority of Floridians support offshore drilling |
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suzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 04:48 AM Response to Reply #60 |
71. I would guess that a number of Floridians have decided |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 07:34 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Oil tankers dock in Florida ports every day |
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bluesmail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
61. There must be something credible out there linking |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Or perhaps it was the poll last week that showed that 60% of Floridians favored drilling |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
62. Semantics-- making consideration into support -- as a political tactic |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. I quoted his support for the Gang of 10's plan, which I think is a bad plan. |
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demokatgurrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:10 AM Response to Reply #63 |
74. This is very very wrong. |
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tnlefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
68. Hey mad!! I've been re reading Naomi Klein's. The Shock Doctrine |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
75. Ed Schultz was just talking about this issue and Florida. |
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