Has anyone seen this email??

[Claire Beth]

A GOP friend of mine sent me this email and I was wondering if anyone had seen one like it. I replied back to him that he would NOT change my mind in this election - - I KNOW Kerry is the better candidate and he was wasting time sending me the crap. Has anyone else seen an email like this one??

Subject: Alarming quote from John Kerry



I FOUND THIS QUOTE FROM KERRY. THINK ABOUT WHAT HE IS SAYING. ESPECIALLY THE LAST LINE, "RECLAIM OUR COUNTRY FROM THE CHURCH

GOERS". SAY WHAT?????

HE WAS AT THE VIEWING OF REAGAN'S BODY IN CALIFORNIA.

"This moment in Simi Valley is a moment of truth," Kerry said. "Not just for my campaign, but for the future of my party as well. For some of us, this may be our only chance to confirm the demise of the man who is solely responsible for turning the American people away from liberal philosophy. As Democrats, we need to put small differences aside and be certain that this man is truly gone. Next, we must reclaim our country from the church-goers, the middle America folks and the uneducated conservative masses."

[benburch]

1. A lie.

Kerry never said that.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

2. Debunked by Snopes.com

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/reagan.asp

[Shopaholic]

4. Send the debunk back to him

and if he copied it to anyone else---send it to them too. Remember-NO Retreat, NO Surrender!

[LosinIt]

3. Debunked at snopes

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/reagan.asp

it is an excerpt from a Kerry parody site. Send a replyall to the jerk that sent it to you.

[Claire Beth]

20. I did....

I told them all (replied to all) it was just another despicable lie by the right wingers. I asked if there wasn't something in the bible about this kind of "spin gossip". I also, gave the snopes.com link and posted the ACTUAL quote that Kerry DID say.

I don't understand why gopers are so mean, evil and hateful.

:kick:

[HarveyBriggs]

5. You could always send him this e-mail

Friends, I'm sending along an e-mail containing the partial text of a speech given by President George W. Bush in Cincinnati Ohio at a very exclusive, invitation-only fund raiser for George Bush's campaign. Once you read this speech, you can understand why the dinner was invitation only.

No press or cameras or recording devices of any kind were allowed during the event, and once you read the text of the speech you will understand why that rule was imposed. Unfortuantely for the organizers of this fund raiser, their screening of the invitees was not thorough enough to keep one former veteran of D-Day from becoming offended and writing down what he heard.

I will tell you, I am a lifelong Republican and loyal to the party principals, but what I have read here and had confirmed by those at that fund raiser has shocked me to the extent that I can no longer support George W. Bush for re-election, and I have decided to stay away from the polls this year.

I would like to share with you the shocking text of Mr. Bush's speech and urge you not to vote for him either.

Here is the text of that speech:

Once again, I’m among the haves and the have mores.

I’d like to say it’s great to be here, but I’d be wrong. It’s really great to be here, and may I add very financially rewarding, too.

As you may know my opponent in this year’s election announced at his convention that he will use his military service in Viet Nam against me in this year’s election.

We cannot stand for that. Because he still believes in the old idea that sacrifice in combat for one’s country is somehow better than profiting at the expense of one’s country. And ownership of medals is more important than the ownership of corporations, and land, and the media. And I am here to assure you that as long as we own those things, men who fight in combat will not own the White House.

There are those of us who lead. And there are those of them who will die for our leadership. There are those who fight in combat, and those who are better than that.
I am here to tell you, that I am better than that. Dick Cheney is better than that. We are better than that.

I have friends, as the song says, in low places. And they have told me they will help tarnish John Kerry’s record, just as they helped us tarnish the record of John McCain and Max Cleland. It would be wrong of me to tell you their names. But, if you would like to help these people with a generous donation, it would not be wrong if you picked up the flier on your way that somebody accidentally left here.

And remember. Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask me what I can do for you once you have done have done something for me.

Thank you.

[Bettie]

10. Did W actually say those things?????

Seems over the top even for him!

[imax2268]

11. I don't like BushCo

anymore then the next person...but I would need some type of proof as to the truth behind those statements from Chimpy...if he did say those things...he's dumber then I thought...

[HarveyBriggs]

15. Betty and iMax ...

That's just a copy of an e-mail I received in my spam box.

I get a lot of them about Kerry from Republicans. This one caught me eye, though.

Don't be mistaken in thinking I wrote it -- particularly the one about not voting!

I lost my Republican stripes a while back.

Harvey Briggs

[gratuitous]

16. Of course he did

I saw it on the internet with my own two eyes, so it must be true.

Right?

[The Magistrate]

12. Excellent Work, Mr. Briggs!

The people above who have asked for proof it is a true excerpt would seem to have missed the point of the exercise. My advice would be to circulate it wide and far as you are able....

"Honesty, like courage, is often merely lack of imagination."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[democratreformed]

6. That's not even a good imitation

of what John Kerry might say. Pleeeeeeeaaaaaaaaase!

[Claire Beth]

7. I can't believe anyone would even believe....

he would say something like that. I replied back to the person who sent the email to me with the snopes.com link AND pasted what Kerry really said.

These people are desperate and will stop at NOTHING to smear Kerry.


:kick:

[LizW]

8. My husband has a friend who sends him 2-4 e-mails every day

Some of them are little optimistic messages, you know, nothing overtly religious, just "here's a thought to brighten your day" kind of stuff. But he also passes along every single one of these astroturf Kerry smears, and it's beginning to irk us.

He's an elderly man, someone my husband has known since he was a child. We have talked about how to get him to stop without offending him. All these things are obviously lies, and are easily debunkable. If it was a stranger or someone I didn't care about offending, I wouldn't think twice about telling them to cut it out. But this is a sweet old man.

How do you guys handle this when it's friends and family sending it to you?

[trof]

13. Try this:

I have the same situation with a couple of folks.
I just find the 'debunk' at snopes or wherever and paste it into the reply with no comment.
And ALWAYS "reply all".

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

18. The answer is just to be simple, to the point, and polite.

Point out to the gentleman that "we clearly disagree in our politics and choice of president" and that you would appreciate it if he would refrain from sending unsolicited political emails. Unless you WANT to engage in some kind of exchange or dialogue via email with this person.

I had to do this with one of my best friend's dad who started sending me RW clone emails, unsolicited. I think he may have assumed that since his son and I were both military, as he had been, that I was some kind of right winger as well. I just deleted most of these for a while, but I read one that steamed me so much that I had to respond (some supposed decorated Viet vet who trashed Kerry and talked about Bush being a "brave fighter pilot" or something), made steam come out of my ears! I let him know in no uncertain terms that I thought Bush was quite likely the worst president in the history of this country, but certainly of my lifetime, and that it made me angry to no end for people to trash Kerry's Vietnam service, especially on behalf of Bush who couldn't even be bothered to show for his cushy ANG duty finagled by his family connections.

Then about 5 min. later I sent another email apologizing for my strident tone, as my friend's parents had never been anything but very nice to me, I've eaten at their home etc. I said let's just leave politics alone and be friends as we are, and asked that he not send me anymore political spam, and he agreed. He did violate this ceasefire one time with a stupid Zell Miller op-ed about being "outraged about the outrage" over Abu Ghraib, and I pointed out that he was in violation of his agreement, and no spam since.

[LizW]

19. Thanks, Trof and Mayberry Machiavelli

I appreciate the thoughtful responses. We'll give them a try.

[gratuitous]

9. The short answer, as always, is . . .

Prove it.

Otherwise, your GOP friend is bearing false witness against his neighbor, which is against the Big 10 that they'd like to post everywhere. Now why would your friend do that? Doesn't he love Jesus and God? How will he atone for his sin?

[Claire Beth]

17. Well...that is what really makes me mad....

he claims to be a Christian. He reads the bible every day and attends church about every time the door is open. I'm very irritated at him and I am waiting to respond back to him until I calm down, less I say something I might regret.

:kick:

[TWiley]

14. As I have said

If a bush-republicans lips are moving, then they are lying.

Why do they hate America so much?