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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:35 PM
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Obama camp jumps on Gramm comments
Obama spokesman Bill Burton seizes on Phil Gramm's comments pooh-poohing concerns over the economy::

“One of Senator McCain’s top economic advisors may think that when people are struggling with lost jobs, stagnant wages, and the rising costs of everything from gas to groceries, it’s merely a ‘mental recession’. And Senator McCain may think it’s sufficient to offer energy proposals that he admits will have mainly ‘psychological’ benefits. But the American people know that our economic problems aren’t just in their heads. They don’t need psychological relief – they need real relief – and that’s what Barack Obama will provide as President."


McCain didn't address the comments at the start of his town hall in suburban Detroit, but, as he has all week, he did use his opening remarks to lament the country's economic woes.

The McCain campaign hasn't said anything yet about Gramm's observations, either.

UPDATE: See post above; McCain's camp is disavowing.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0708/Obama_camp_jumps_on_Gramm_comments.html
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:37 PM
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1. I love how Obama's camp is all over statements and issues like this.
We ain't takin' no shit! :7
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:38 PM
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2. Good. Gramm needs to be an issue--really. nt
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:38 PM
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3. K & R!
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:40 PM
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4. quick on the draw...
i likes
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:51 PM
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14. It HAS to be.
IMMEDIATE response, and forceful, AND pointed.

These things absolutely CANNOT and MUST NOT EVER be allowed to stand - unchallenged, unrebutted, with no objections and no attempts to set the record straight.

Because there WILL be those who think - "uh, gee, well, he hasn't said anything about it. Must be true then." See John Kerry and the swiftboat swifties. By the time he finally got around to responding, the impression had been made, the perception had been set in cement - and the cement had been allowed to dry, the seeds had been planted and had had enough time to take root. Never mind what may have come before or after. He lost the election then and there. He compromised himself enough that the bad guys were able to get close enough to steal - AGAIN.

BACKBONE, anyone?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6479824
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:40 PM
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5. Good. Gramm's statement was revolting and idiotic. nt
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:44 PM
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6. He just put into his speech and it got a great response


will be on all the news later
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:46 PM
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8. WOW. That's terrific--no time wasted. Make Gramm an issue, even if a minor one.
Not just his comments, but the fact that he's advising McSame.
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:49 PM
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13. Watched the news, and media DID'Taddress Enron loophole, bundling foreclosures. When will they?
Direct opportunity. Could we please say something, in Obama's good-natured way.
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:45 PM
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7. he's talking about it RIGHT NOW
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:49 PM
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12. That was GREAT! He went on for a couple MINUTES about those comments! You GO, Obama!
Edited on Thu Jul-10-08 12:50 PM by jenmito
:toast:
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mikiturner Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:47 PM
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9. He is on fire
Thanks Senator McCain for this gift!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:48 PM
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10. MSNBC broke into its programming to run it

big laughs big response

we will be seeing this all day long



great
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:49 PM
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11. Understand of course...
...that the primary-spiteful griefers here in GD-P who are so busy “holding Obama's feet to the fire” won't say jack-diddle-shit about McCain and his GOP cronies gutting this country with the flames of freeper policy.

I'm recommending this post big-time, but don't expect to see much of the same from “The Grief Brigade”. :(
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:51 PM
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15. That's the whole Reagan/Gramm/Bush theory of economics.
Everything moves in unexplainable cycles, they believe, so the only thing government can really do is give tax cuts to the rich and wait for the economy to improve. For them, recessions aren't caused by shifts in capital allocation or resource shortages or wealth inequity which prevents the middle classes from competing equitably with bigger business or anything else. It's just that people start believing things are bad and make it bad by not spending. I've read Republicans explaining the Great Depression as just an economic cycle.

One of the many, many reasons Republicans are unfit for office.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:51 PM
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16. This is way worse than Obama's "bitter" comments! I love how Obama's jumping on these comments!
Disavowing Gramm's remarks isn't enough. McCain said the same thing before about it being psychological.
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:55 PM
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17. That's the way I see Gramms Comments .. n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:55 PM
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18. I hope a lot of people feel the same way. Obama is now playing offense!
Edited on Thu Jul-10-08 12:56 PM by jenmito
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:58 PM
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19. I love it, keep the ReThugs on the defense
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 01:03 PM
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20. Yup. This is just what Obama needed!
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 01:07 PM
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21. MSNBC Contessa Brewer and David Shuster said that Gramm may resign
from McFossil's campaign now that he is under the bus
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 01:09 PM
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22. I hope he doesn't. And even if he does, that shouldn't stop Obama from using it. At LEAST
the part that McCain has said himself about this being psychological.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 01:29 PM
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23. Shew. I sure am glad to know that I'm dreaming....
Because reality on the scale of the dream I'm having really is scary.

Glad to know that when I wake up, everything will be OK. :sarcasm:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 01:31 PM
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24. McCain thinks that public opinion was the reason we lost Vietnam.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 01:33 PM
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25. McCain Econ Adv Phil Gramm explains Republican philosophy. McCain (Republican candidate) disavows.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 01:36 PM
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26. Gramm: Let Them Eat Cake
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