If the Repubs, claim crashing a jet- and being held POW is "heroic" and "presidential?

[Bluerthanblue]

Can they (who try and claim the market on patriotism)
explain how a decorated Veteran-
A man who actually saved the life of a fellow soldier-under fire-
Was rewarded by their 'grand old party'
with slander, betrayal, and seeing his service mocked by people sporting "purple band-aids"?

I came to know Lt. John Kerry during the spring of 1969. He and his swift boat crew assisted in inserting our Special Forces team and our Chinese Nung soldiers into operational sites in the Cau Mau Peninsula of South Vietnam. I worked with him on many operations and saw firsthand his leadership, courage and decision-making ability under fire.

On March 13, 1969, John Kerry's courage and leadership saved my life.

While returning from a SEA LORDS operation along the Bay Hap River, a mine detonated under another swift boat. Machine-gun fire erupted from both banks of the river, and a second explosion followed moments later. The second blast blew me off John's swift boat, PCF-94, throwing me into the river. Fearing that the other boats would run me over, I swam to the bottom of the river and stayed there as long as I could hold my breath.

When I surfaced, all the swift boats had left, and I was alone taking fire from both banks. To avoid the incoming fire, I repeatedly swam under water as long as I could hold my breath, attempting to make it to the north bank of the river. I thought I would die right there. The odds were against me avoiding the incoming fire and, even if I made it out of the river, I thought I'd be captured and executed. Kerry must have seen me in the water and directed his driver, Del Sandusky, to turn the boat around. Kerry's boat ran up to me in the water, bow on, and I was able to climb up a cargo net to the lip of the deck. But, because I was nearly upside down, I couldn't make it over the edge of the deck. This left me hanging out in the open, a perfect target. John, already wounded by the explosion that threw me off his boat, came out onto the bow, exposing himself to the fire directed at us from the jungle, and pulled me aboard. more at-
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005460

Obama has NEVER treated John McCain in this manner-

Wesley Clark's comments did NOT malign McCain's military experience or cast doubts about his suffering or his patriotism.

Any of THAT came from the same source as the incidents I referenced-

And NOW, we see Mr.McCain aligning himself with one of the 'brains' behind the trashing of one of our distinguished Vets-

"Bud Day" has no problem speaking out minimizing the service of Vets who don't share his political leanings-

General Clark spent a month in Vietnam, got badly wounded and was evacuated, that was his experience.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/30/mccain-uses-swift-boat-ve_n_110003.html

Where is your disgust for Mr.Day's comments be-littling GenWes.Clark's service Mr. McCain????

Where is your outrage and solidarity NOW?


We need to focus our anger and disappointment on the right people. We need to hold THEM accountable for their rhetoric.




peace~

[CJCRANE]

1. "Clark was assigned

a position in the 1st Infantry Division and flew to Vietnam on May 21, 1969 during the U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. He worked as a staff officer, collecting data and helping in operations planning, and was awarded the Bronze Star for his work with the staff. Clark was then given command of A Company, 1st Battalion, 16th Infantry of the 1st Infantry Division in January 1970. In February, only one month into his command, he was shot four times by a Viet Cong soldier with an AK-47. The wounded Clark shouted orders to his men, who counterattacked and defeated the Viet Cong force. Clark had injuries to his right shoulder, right hand, right hip, and right leg, and was sent to Valley Forge Army Hospital in Phoenixville, Pennsylvania to recuperate. He was awarded the Silver Star for his actions during the encounter."

Clark spent nearly a year in Vietnam and took four bullets... I think that deserves some respect (or at least sympathy)!


ed: gr

[Bluerthanblue]

3. it also demonstrates the LEADERSHIP qualities,

that Clark was pointing out were not present in McCain's POW experience.

If all the 'swift-boat'voices want to do is have a "my boo-boo's bigger than yours" I do believe they'd lose. Resoundingly- but it's about much more, and they know it-

They just hope the public doesn't take the time or pay enough attention to figure their ruse out-


thanks for the information-

:hi:

peace~

[paparush]

2. They turned a drunken, AWOL, "pilot" into a "president" against a decorated Vietnam vet.

They can surely spin McCain.

When you have no ethics, no morals, no empathy, no honesty, the world is your oilster.

[Bluerthanblue]

4. but they didn't do it without the 'consent' of the governed-

the public is numbed out- and accepting the media, and the gossip as gospel.

What will it take to wake us up?
:shrug:
peace~

[paparush]

5. Well, they did it with electronic voting machines and election fraud

which is certainly NOT the consent of the governed.

I dunno what will awaken the sleeping giant.

I'm beginning to believe it no longer exists.

[ladjf]

7. In defense of the "governed", they were brainwashed by professionals.

[Bluerthanblue]

9. ah- we're all professionals- some of us are

just not as greedy- and others not as effective.

What's a professional anyway?

:hi:

[ladjf]

10. When I used the term "professionals", I was referring to the fact

that for many years, the Republicans have developed the science of mind control, using the media as their main voice. It started in earnest when the Army Intelligence imported several Nazi propagandists after WWII. Not long after that, the Republicans hired them to write mind control political propaganda for the Republican Party. That continued until is was brought out in public that the writers were "professional" propagandists from Nazi Germany.

Following that, the Republicans further refined their skills. And over a period of several decades, managed to get control of the American media. The CIA of those days often boasted that "they owned them media".

It appears to me that the Inner circle of those who run the Republican Party still have control of the media. That media, as everyone can see, hammers away at Americans day and day out on radio,TV and newspapers. They have learned, just as Hitler did, how to bring in the religious sectors, play on the "family values" and racial biases.

When we watch or listen to the media we are being worked on by "professional" propagandists. The majority of the American victims are only professionals in their own jobs that have nothing to do with mind control.

Perhaps I just didn't make myself clear enough in the original post.

Does that clear it up a bit?

[ladjf]

6. Your post, good as it was, would have been a blank page when

read by Republicans. It was all objective logic, an attribute that is incomprehensible to Republicans.

[Bluerthanblue]

8. no, to some,

(admittedly more than a few)- but not to all 'republicans'- If I really believed that those who call themselves 'republicans' or who vote for republican candidates aren't salvagable- I'd have no hope for this country.-

There has to be a way to wake people up. And once awoken, to encourage them to excercize their independent thought processes.
To not be afraid to go against the flow, not by damming up the river, but by swimming in the direction that is positive, and inclusive- not negative and selfish.

:hi:

peace~

[ladjf]

11. I didn't literally mean every single Republican. I meant many, if not most

Republicans.