I supported and voted for Obama.

[Vilis Veritas]

Can I respectfully ask (not that this little IT guy has any pull) all the pundits, posters and political speculators to get some rest and think about things for a while?

18 million people. 18 million people.

They have a right to be told why and not just let go like some cheap fucking balloon. 18 million people deserve to be coddled a bit. I am glad that Obama has class.

Go pour yourself a glass of wine and sit back and relish the moment. Life is not like McDonald's...you can't have everything you want when YOU want it.

Peace.

(and do not worry...I am in no way delusional enough to think that my plea will garner anything but flames...of course I am sure that some will disagree...) ;-)

[Fridays Child]

1. Her supporters will buck up when she tells them to. So, basically, the coddling is...

...for Hillary's sake, not theirs. And, the fact that she needs to be coddled not only speaks volumes about her lack of mettle but it also reflects quite poorly on my sex. If the first serious bid by a woman for president had to end prematurely, it should have ended with dignity and strength. Sadly, this doesn't seem to be happening. I only hope that she can rehabilitate herself. She may not have won the nomination but there is still so much at stake for all women.

[Vilis Veritas]

8. The only reason it is not happening with dignity

In my opinion, is because the instant gratification of M$M and our McCulture will not let it happen. We want it now. We have been trained to EXPECT it NOW.

I watched her speech and while I was not thrilled, I was not going to smash the set and bang on the keyboard taking out my anger and frustration on those who have poured their hearts and soul into her campaign.

Anger does nothing but feed the black wolf...(old Indian tale)...and sometimes it bites back.

I am reminded of an old yarn about the down and out fighter...he was beaten and bloody from a rousing bout. He kept getting up and every time he did so, the spectators kept berating him and screaming for him to just give it up. They called him names and shouted their anger at him not laying down and accepting defeat.

Each time he got up. Because they taunted him. Finally, his own anger caused him to land a blow that, illegal as it was, knocked out his opponent.

My apologies for the ramble...I wish you all the peace we all so desperately desire.


Peace.

edited for spelling...

[Fridays Child]

14. The MSM is not in charge of candidate behavior, just reporting it.

I'm disappointed in Hillary and I'm just as disappointed in her husband. He helped to squander his wife's political capital and he exploited the goodwill that Democrats have extended to him as a beloved party elder.

[Vilis Veritas]

22. I agree with your points...

but respectfully disagree with your interpretation of my words.

Peace.

[Cha]

9. Thank you, Fridays Child for

inserting some reality into the situation.

hilary's campaign has been a disaster from the get-go and now the ending is every bit as unworthy of a Democratic candidate running in the Primary.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

21. Like they're a bunch of mindless fools who march on her or Obama's orders.

If they were followers - they would have been on the Obama bandwagon a long time ago because that was what everyone else was doing and it was the "fashionable" thing to do.

These aren't a bunch of young girls who do whatever they're told to do.

[Fridays Child]

24. You missed the point.

It's up to Hillary to exhort her supporters to move on and to start actively backing the nominee. But she's dragging her feet and it's harming all of us.

The bottom line is that, although Hillary said she wanted to be in the kitchen and she promised she could stand the heat, it seems that she exaggerated. I don't expect a re-make of Margaret Thatcher--nor would I want one. But it's discouraging to me, as a woman, to hear that Hillary needs time, that this is just so emotional for her, and so on.

In a culture that still is not convinced we can run things as well as men, Hillary should be setting a strong foundation for women who will seek high political offices in the future. Instead, she's behaving in ways that they will have to struggle to live down.

[Shae]

2. 1. most voters are adult enough to know . . .

that when their candidate loses, he or she drops out.
2. She doesn't own those 18 million. Most just, at least for a time, preferred her over the other one. Many have already crossed over.
3. McDonald's has nothing I want.
4. I'm not all that tired, but thanks :hi:

[OhioBlue]

3. You can ask, but also understand that it goes both ways

We have just come through a very long, drawn out, divisive primary campaign. Many Democrats have been disappointed in and angry with the Clinton campaign tactics. Many have felt betrayed by the Clintons. Many defended them for years and now see them in a completely different light. They feel personally insulted. Add to that the jaw dropping speech of last night. When Terry McCauliffe introduced her as the next President of the U.S., it set the tone and left many of us speechless. How?/?? What??? Why???????????

To ask everyone to turn on a dime and give her respect that many don't feel she has asked for let alone earn, is the same as asking all of her supporters to turn on a moment and support Obama, maybe even harder.

[Vilis Veritas]

13. Yep, McCauliffe was being an ass...

It made my jaw drop...but I chose not to feed the anger.

I am not asking for respect, I think I asked everyone to have a glass of wine and relish the moment. To breathe...I know I am.

It felt great today when all the rethugs in the office stopped by and called me Obama. I smiled and said 'That's Mr. President to you.'

Peace.

[walldude]

4. I was being quiet and nice.. till I saw there are still

Hillary supporters playing the vote for McCain game, or the write in Hillary game. I hate to say it but I'll feel pretty good when these people have to start following the rules again. I expect to see a number of tombstones, and I will take pleasure in seeing people who were here only to support one candidate or the other gone.

[Tatiana]

5. Well, it's not 18 million at this point.

If you're counting voters in states like California and New York (that have been bankrolling Obama for President and are his top donating states), they have already moved on and (especially Cali) are firmly with Obama at this point.

Of course Clinton supporters need time to let go and transition to the general election battle. But that doesn't excuse Hillary from exhibiting some leadership and party loyalty, which I fully expect from her come Saturday.

[goldcanyonaz]

7. LOL!, you must be working with Dione Warwick to come up with that shit

She does much better in both states against Mac if you bother to look, yeah he is the nominee but her numbers are much better in the GE. I bet you think he will win the South too.

[Tatiana]

16. The states are trending towards Obama. Dems are coalescing around the nominee.

California poll results are in for the presidential race
Hillary Clinton may have scored a solid win over Barack Obama in California's presidential primary on Feb. 5 (as she frequently likes to remind folks these days), but a new L.A. Times/KTLA poll finds he would fare better than she in the battle with John McCain for the state in November (a result the Clinton camp won't be touting).

Obama led McCain in the poll, 47-40%; in a Clinton matchup with the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, she got 43%, he held steady at 40%.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/california-poll.html

The survey also found that Obama is now viewed more favorably than Clinton in New York. Sixty-two percent (62%) of New York voters have a favorable opinion of Barack Obama while 55% give Hillary Clinton such positive reviews. For Obama, those ratings are up four points from a month ago while Clinton’s are down three points. John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, is viewed positively by 44%. His ratings are down six points from the previous survey.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/new_york/election_2008_new_york_presidential_election

And I think Obama needs help to win in the South, which he may get in the form of Bob Barr. With large turnout of the base in Mississippi and Barr polling at 6% in North Carolina, we have a good shot at those states. Plus Virginia.

The only states I think Sen. Clinton actually DELIVERS are Florida and Arkansas. Obama will almost certainly not win Arkansas and Clinton has the edge among older voters that would tip Florida in her favor. Florida will be a uphill struggle for Obama to stay the least and I don't know that he can get enough older voters or register enough younger ones to win. But Obama's map to victory is completely different than Hillary's would have been. He has the whole western plains area open up to him. He has a good chance at winning the entire midwest area (including the Chicago tri-state area of Illinois-Indiana-Wisconsin).

I don't buy the "he can't win" argument. Bottom line is that the "D" should win this year. Period.

[goldcanyonaz]

18. trending? Obama will NOT win the south, work on other states, please

carter won the south in 76 and it has not turned blue since and wont anytime soon

[Tatiana]

19. He can win "in" the South. Read, please. I did not say he would win THE South.

Obviously if I think he will lose Florida.

[AtomicKitten]

6. So, what about the hundreds of thousands of Operation Chaos voters?

Shall we cuddle them too?

[Vilis Veritas]

12. I only cuddle kittens and my SO...nt

[DenverDem23]

10. Your post makes a lot of sense!!!!

Let's all take 30 days to think about what is the best way for Obama to win the Presidency, with the BEST OF ALL VP candidates to run with him.............there are a lot of US Hero's who are up to the job...........someone who can step in at a moment's notice.......remember this is the FIRST Presidential nominee who is not white.........we need someone as VP that every American can trust from day one ...who is that person?

[Vilis Veritas]

11. Thanks and welcome to DU

:hi:

Peace.

[tyedyeto]

15. And she still LOST

If they are true Democrats, they will support the nominee no matter what she says. If they don't, I suspect they have been told by Limpballs, O'Lielly, etc to vote for her because they felt she would be easily defeated come November.

Those who now say they will vote McShame are not true Democrats or progressives, they are Repug shills. Look at how they (the candidates) have voted and decide if they are supportive of all women's rights, the environment, corporate America, our Veterans, etc. McShame has an a horrible record on all these issues.

[Vilis Veritas]

23. The precentage of people who are actually saying

they will vote for McBush is so small that it is only significant if people buy into the propaganda spewing from the M$M.

You are right on the money.

Peace.

[Auntie Bush]

17. K & R

:beer: to an IT guy.

[Vilis Veritas]

20. Let me buy the next round.

:beer:

Thank you kindly Auntie...