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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:31 PM
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Al Gore just PISSES ME OFF right now...
We could have avoided all of this mess if he would have ran. Pure and simple.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:31 PM
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1. he may not have fared any better than Clinton
:shrug:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:31 PM
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2. Are you joking. Hillary vs. Gore would have been an atrocity.
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:33 PM
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4. Would Clinton Have Run Against Gore?
Gore being my original preference, that would have indeed been interesting.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:35 PM
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8. It's her turn. She ran for senate in 2000 for this, she wouldn't want to wait until 2016
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 03:09 PM
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28. TeamClinton undermined Gore in 2000 and sabotaged Kerry and Dem voters outright in 2004.
Gore and Kerry were NOT going to let them fulfill their plan - plenty of honest Dems have behind Obama for quite a lot longer than many realize, and it is a key reason why Obama has been so much more organized with a strong national network that outorganized the Clintons.

Once the Clinton loyalists surfaced for Hillary2008, the remaining HONEST Dems could work unencumbered by the deceits of TeamClinton players.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:40 PM
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15. I think Gore would have cleaned up putting H.C. & B.O. out of the race
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:43 PM
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21. Gore vs Hillary and Bill would have been so unbelievably divisive.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:32 PM
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3. Gore would have lost in November.
He's not as disliked by Indys and Repubs as Clinton is, but he's close.

...and he's making great contributions doing what he's doing.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:37 PM
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Do Indys still dislike Gore?
Edited on Sun Jun-01-08 02:39 PM by Cant trust em
I was never all that high on him, but since he's become the godfather of the environment I think that his image has been enhanced.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:42 PM
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18. Unfortunately, yes.
And I never understood why.

Mostly, these people are anti-intellectuals.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:44 PM
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22. That seems crazy to me.
There is no politician around right now that I respect more than Al Gore.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 03:45 PM
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35. Yeah they do and Al Gore would have lost badly.
It's sad, but I think Gore's image has taken a massive hit the past 8 years. While many on the left love him, moderate voters aren't too keen to him, which is ironic, since Gore was probably more conservative than Clinton in the 90s.

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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:03 PM
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39. I was never crazy about him, sort of weak/milquetoast, but a nice guy....n/t
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:37 PM
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11. Exactly. Al Gore is beloved by Dems and progressives.
But the rest of the public still buys into the number that was done on him by the MSM. It's unfortunate, but true.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:33 PM
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5. Al Gore vs. Hillary Clinton? Argh.
She'd be as miserable towards Gore as she was towards Obama.

Believe me, he is much happier where he is. Remember now, he doesn't like the campaigning part and this is a whole lot of campaigning.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:33 PM
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6. Gore\Obama Was Definitely My Dream Ticket
Sigh...

:shrug:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:34 PM
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7. He has found his calling --
and as important as our country is, how important our leadership is, compared to the future of our planet, they pale in comparison. Just a footnote.

He's serving us - and the people of the world - far better where he is now.


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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:42 PM
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17. True but this could have been a triple crown for him..
Who better to trust than an academy award winning Nobel winner. There's no way the leaders of the world WOULDN't stop and listen.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 03:43 PM
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34. you really think an academy award
would be a factor in his political career?

And technically, he did not win an academy award. He appeared in a movie that won an academy award for its producers.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:37 PM
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9. The debates would have been interesting over Nafta
"Sorry Hillary you were in that meeting I was there too"
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:37 PM
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10. I'm hoping he runs in 2012
After a 4 year debacle of gramps.


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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:40 PM
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14. I'm hoping that he won't have to.
I'll continue to think that Democrats will win this election. You're not going to rain on my parade, Debbie Downer.
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:39 PM
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12. Playing devil's advocate
I'm so pissed off at all of the Democrats right now. If they had just voted for John Edwards, we could have avoided this mess.

On a serious note, you can be pissed at anyone except the people who are actually involved in this mess.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:40 PM
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13. If it was Gore/Obama. I don't think Repukes would even try to win
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:43 PM
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20. That was my dream line-up.
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 03:12 PM
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31. Right
They wouldn't even field a candidate. :eyes:
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:41 PM
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16. He could have endorsed Obama four months ago and saved us the drama.
But no.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:43 PM
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19. Now that's a good point. Why is he waiting?
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:50 PM
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23. Let the party choose, then come forward to help us heal?
Gore doesn't need to choose our candidate, just help to get them elected. If he wanted to make the selection, he would have run himself.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:53 PM
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26. Hard to say. My guess is he's burned out on dirty politics.
He's gotten burned so many times he probably doesn't see the benefit. He got ripped off by the Supreme Court in 2000 and he backed the wrong horse in 2004, so I guess he figures what's the point of sticking his neck out. I doubt if he has any illusions about Hillary, but the big guns were all firing for her so he probably figured she'd pull it out.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:51 PM
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24. He wuz bizzy fightin' the manbear pig.
He can't do EVERYTHING!
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:53 PM
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25. He was my first choice too- but I can understand much better now
why he did not want to run against the Clinton machine- we are seeing now, exactly how they play the game. Gore might have won in the end but I can see why he would not have wanted to put himself through what we're seeing them do to Obama now. Between the right wing MSM doing everything in their power to get her nominated (they've been stockpiling ammunition for 6 years to use against her) and their tactics (trying to bribe super-delegates, "accidentally" making disgusting statements, doing everything possible to knee-cap her opponent, etc.)- after what Gore went through in 2000- why would he want to go through a nightmare like running against Hillary?

I'm disappointed- Gore-Obama was my dream ticket. But I truly understand now why he did not jump in.

And you know what? It's really ok. Gore has already demonstrated that he can accomplish much more just by being who he is right now- beyond politics and into the global arena. Just look at what he's done during the past 6 years and the impact his work has made on our planet-- a Nobel Prize, an Academy Award, etc.!

Now, as a Party Elder rather then a candidate, he will be playing a MAJOR ROLE in this election-- bridging and healing our party together. A role he is best suited for- probably better then anyone else in the party at this point.

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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 02:54 PM
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27. Same here. I was really hoping he would run
in 2008 and a win in November would have been a sure thing in my mind. Instead, look at the three we have left running :cry:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 03:10 PM
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29. Al Gore wouldn't have stood a chance against Hillary.
He wouldn't have fought back too hard against her, because he has a soft spot for polar bears and other savage, arctic beasts.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 03:11 PM
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30. Al Gore wouldn't have stood a chance against Hillary.
He wouldn't have fought back too hard against her, because he has a soft spot for polar bears and other savage, arctic beasts.

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Youphemism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 03:13 PM
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32. Don't be silly

Al Gore was handed an election against a guy as incompetent as Bush, and managed to make it look like a horse race.

He would have been blasted off the map by these two candidates. He would have been sucking the wind whipping off Gravel's butt hair after the first primary.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 03:41 PM
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33. He should had ran again in 2004. But can one do when there is a fake war president?
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 03:46 PM
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36. Eh? Why would you think that?
Gore had his shot, he's found his niche.

I see no reason to believe that he is the savior of the Democratic Party.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 03:48 PM
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37. Al Gore was not a strong campaigner.
I love him and I know many here love him, but he ran a very poor campaign in 2000. Yes the media defined him, but he then turned around and defined himself based on the media's view. Remember the whole issue with him trying to change his personality based on Saturday Night Live sketches? That was brutal.

Gore should not have lost to Bush and I don't care how many people cry election fraud. Even without Florida, he had no business losing Tennessee and New Hampshire and had he won either one, Florida would've been a moot point.

With that said, I do believe the final 48 hours of the campaign were beautifully ran by Al Gore. Had he campaigned like that throughout the entire election, it would be him in the White House right now and not Bush. The problem is, he didn't and it was too little too late.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 03:49 PM
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38. WHat mess?
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:04 PM
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40. But he didn't. PLEASE MOVE ON AND SUPPORT OUR NOMINEE: OBAMA.
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