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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:11 PM
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Count Every Vote!
unless they are a felon!

or under 18!

or not a citizen!

or they are a registered Republican and it's a closed primary!

or there is ample evidence they are registered at multiple addresses in different states or counties and are committing voter fraud!

or if their representative state legislature tries to leapfrog their established primary date in late 2007 knowing that while they risk losing at least half if not more of their delegates it doesn't matter anyway because Hillary is going to win this thing on Super Tuesday and in 2012 they will be in a position to have an "important" primary like Iowa or New Hampshire used to have and they will get access to big-time national politicians and media pundits and maybe get some face-time on cable news TV and can give their constituents some vague warm fuzzy feeling that their vote is now more important then it would have been had they just kept their primary date where it was in the first place.


Folks, as Democrats we do want all votes to count. But there are rules and we exclude violators of those rules, be they involuntary participants (ie the average Michigan or Florida primary voter) or not, from the electoral process.



"We believe Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina play a unique and special role in the nominating process.... We believe the DNC's rules and its calendar provide the necessary structure to respect and honor that role. Thus, we will be signing the pledge to adhere to the DNC approved nominating calendar." - Clinton Campaign Manager, Patty Solis-Doyle
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:12 PM
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1. Yeah, we know the Hillary supporters advocating 100% seating are hypocrites.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:13 PM
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2. i dont see anybody sueing the RNC
i just saw one of the lawyers saying 'if they decide to only seat half we'll continue forward'

well... the RNC is only seating half of their florida delegates.... why isnt anybody sueing them?


OH, thats right... hillary wasnt on the republican ticket.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:28 PM
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3. Oh hell! States should be free to schedule their primaries whenever they like.
Make it TEGWAR--The Exciting Game Without Any Rules. Florida will then schedule their primary for 2012 the day after the election this year, in which case New Hampshire will schedule their for the day before the election. Big states should be allowed to increase their delegate counts at will and also have the ability to nullify the results of smaller states. Rules? We don't need no stinking rules!
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:33 PM
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4. haha
yea, i don't get why Hillary supporters think there should be no consequence for moving the date up. if there is no consequence this time, then every state will do it for the next election. duh!
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